NYC_Frank

"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
I had been having difficulties with mine when i first got the device

So just to be sure, I started pushing the lid closed and holding it down with the latch open until i saw the battery indication lights ... then i slid the latch to close ... haven't had a problem since but I also did a factory reset at one point so Id give that a go too ... good luck Jill
 

SmokeyTheBeard

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Anyone ever have an issue getting the battery to be recognized?
For about a week or two, no matter which of my 4 batteries (fully charged) I insert, it wouldn’t turn in. But then a few hours later it would work.
Now, for several days, I can’t get it to turn out.
I will reach out the @Davinci_vaporizer , but in meantime anyone have any theories/tips to fix? (I am especially looking at you @OF as the battery-troubleshooting-go-to-guy who often has a knowledge bomb at the ready).

I have had the same problem with multiple full batteries. I normally have to take the battery out and put it back in several times until the Miqro will actually turn on.
 

OF

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I will reach out the @Davinci_vaporizer , but in meantime anyone have any theories/tips to fix? (I am especially looking at you @OF as the battery-troubleshooting-go-to-guy who often has a knowledge bomb at the ready).

I've never seen that exact thing here, but have seen similar when changing batteries. My assumption is since it's not on (basically these sorts of units never shut off really, or they wouldn't be able to know buttons are pressed to 'wake up') when the new battery is put in. In such cases many times it got fixed by briefly plugging in the charger/USB cable.

Many such devices carry enough stored capacity for brief periods without a battery (doesn't take much power at idle, obviously or it'd kill the battery waiting for you to use it again?).

For myself I usually recharge the cell inside, not swap out.

Good luck.

OF
 

Jill NYC

Portable Hoarder
Since the batteries are good, it might be the power management software of the device. It can't hurt to do a hard reset if possible, according to the manual:

While device is turned off,
press all 3 buttons and hold
for 10 seconds.
You, my friend, are a genius! :nod:
As soon as I pushed all three buttons at once, the indication lights came on. 5 clicks later, it was back in action.

So my guess is as @OF said - the power wasn’t on enough to recognize the 5 clicks, but once reset it went back into idle mode.

Who needs davinci when we have FC?
Thanks also @NYC_Frank , @SmokeyTheBeard .
I love this community. :love:
 

NYC_Frank

"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
As soon as I pushed all three buttons at once, the indication lights came on. 5 clicks later, it was back in action.

Who needs davinci when we have FC?
I love this community. :love:

Good to hear ... Lotsa ❤ right back at ya

It's good to know that we have a factory reset to use just in case some kind of glitch occurs ... i think its a real solid device and im hoping we continue to have good luck way into the future

Took my Miqro on its first beach visit last Sunday to Riis Pk on the Rockaways ... needless to say it was a good day :cool:

Have a nice weekend everybody
 

cpl5938

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You, my friend, are a genius! :nod:
As soon as I pushed all three buttons at once, the indication lights came on. 5 clicks later, it was back in action.

So my guess is as @OF said - the power wasn’t on enough to recognize the 5 clicks, but once reset it went back into idle mode.

Who needs davinci when we have FC?
Thanks also @NYC_Frank , @SmokeyTheBeard .
I love this community. :love:

Excellent. And I'm just a novice here! Glad it was such an easy fix.
 

naddude

Member
Hi All: I have had my MIQRO for about a month now. A few observations:

1. There seems to be alight ring of discoloration around the bottom of the ceramic bowl (very narrow) which cannot be removed with alcohol soaked Q-Tips. Is this normal "wear & tear"?

2. I tried using a screen at the bottom of the bowl as without it I am getting little bits stuck in my mouthpiece.

3. There does not seem to be a lot of vapour no matter what temp I am at although the flavour and effects are just fine. But compared to my Tera there is a tiny bit of vapour. In fact I can use the same ABV herb again in my Tera and get another session from it.

4. I have not had any battery issues yet but only get 4 to maybe 5 sessions.

Otherwise it is a fine vape and I am enjoying it.
 
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Jill NYC

Portable Hoarder
@naddude
1) I also have the discoloring right at bottom edge of oven. Drives me a little nuts, but doesn’t effect taste. I feel like I read somewhere that a small piece of that magic eraser (mr. clean?) with ISO might do the trick, but I haven’t tried yet.
2) I never have issues with particles getting through. It it super dry herb? Or maybe a courser grind will help? Then again, if you fixed it with an extra screen, it doesn’t matter.
3) Are you packing it enough? I find that I need to fill the oven above the white part - Decently tamped down. Without packing it relatively tight, I am unable to get good vapor and it definitely doesn’t cook through it either.
4) Glad you aren’t having issues. I find I rarely get more than 3 sessions per battery. Luckily they are small and easy enough to carry an extra when necessary.
 

naddude

Member
Thanks for the tip on the packing tightly. When I do not fill it completely I use small the glass spacers that I bought at a smoke shop. They help taking up the space.
And yes you are right if I use older drier and more finely ground herb then particles escape the chamber. But I found even with fresher more coarse ground ...the airway etc keeps cleaner longer with a screen. Obviously I need to experiment more.

Thanks for your help.
 

cpl5938

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@naddude I find bending a pipe cleaner in half and sticking the bottom U of the bend in iso gets rid of any crud on the bottom of the oven because I'm able to use a scrubbing motion. I often twist it at the bottom to make it stiffer. I've also tried with a screen and prefer without it as @Jill NYC points out a tighter pack definitely helps cut down the particles.

I only get noticeable vapor on smart paths 3 and 4 and even then it's not much. And yeah, the battery life sucks. I get maybe 15 minutes out of them. But I bought a couple of more of Amazon so having 4 batteries is helpful. The best thing about the Miqro is its size. If it wasn't so stealth I would have already moved on.
 
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naddude

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@naddude I find bending a pipe cleaner in half and sticking the bottom U of the bend in iso gets rid of any crud on the bottom of the oven because I'm able to use a scrubbing motion. I often twist it at the bottom to make it stiffer. I've also tried with a screen and prefer without it as @Jill NYC points out a tighter pack definitely helps cut down the particles.

I only get noticeable vapor on smart paths 3 and 4 and even then it's not much. And yeah, the battery life sucks. I get maybe 15 minutes out of them. But I bought a couple of more of Amazon so having 4 batteries is helpful. The best thing about the Miqro is its size. If it wasn't so stealth I would have already moved on.
Thanks!
I will try both.
 
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ive_ana

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I'm experiencing the same no vapor. Does there always need to be visible vapor to fully extract the good stuff? How do you know when it's spent? I'm still figuring out how vaping works esp with conduction. Why would it need to be fully packed vs there being some room in the oven?
 
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StringTheorista

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You can definitely get effects with no visible vapor. Some think any vapor you exhale is wasted goodness. I personally have gotten way higher than intended a few times with the miqro because I made the mistake of thinking that because I didn’t see vapor, I hadn’t gotten anything.

You’ll know it’s spent when the color changes. Some stop vaping when the taste goes, most go past that point to varying shades of brown.

Conduction vapes work by the contact of the material with the hot walls of the oven. If the material is too loose in the oven, it doesn’t heat up enough to extract much vapor. The reason for the pearl is to press against the load so it’s being heated on all sides. (Convection vapes, in contrast, work by drawing heated air through the load, so they work better when not tightly packed so that hot air can contact more of the material.j
 

NYC_Frank

"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
I'm experiencing the same no vapor. Does there always need to be visible vapor to fully extract the good stuff? How do you know when it's spent? I'm still figuring out how vaping works esp with conduction. Why would it need to be fully packed vs there being some room in the oven?
The device does seem to work best with the oven filled toghtly packed just past the white part ... don't fill too much ... remeber to stir and adjust the pearl after each session as the volume of the material does decrease as you go ... good luck and enjoy
 

naddude

Member
Hi: I noticed that if I tap the unit firmly on a hard surface (desk) when it is on (in an attempt to shake up the oven contents) it turns of (or goes dead.) Any one else experience this?
 
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NYC_Frank

"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
You shouldn't be doing that for a number of reasons including damaging the unit but also because your material should be tightly packed with the pearl down tight against the against it so there aint no way you can shake things up and avoid the stir
 
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NYC_Frank

"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
It's a narow oval ... 8mm high at its highest point by 13mm wide... 8mm is .315 inches same as this spacer but its a square footprint ... so i dont think it'll work out ...

Somebody check me on this please as im pretty good and baked off my miqro and a couple of omnivap hits ... not even 7 yet ... so bad :)

But the more i look at it it looks like the top and bottoms are angled (X part of the snowflake) so it might fit like a glove ... and it would only leave about a tenth of an inch at each end exposed

real tight but worth a shot maybe ... gets great reviews and 2mm thick seems right too
 
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chopus

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I've just gotten the Miqro this week after reading/watching alot of reviews. I have to say that all in all most of the disadvantages that the reviews talked about do not apply to me, I'm a light user and the battery life is fine for me. It gets me plenty high and I love the compact and sleek form factor.

But there is one very big issue which no one seems to talk about - there is no "pure ceramic vapor path" as advertised. The device is offgassing like crazy and that's coming from an Atmos Jump user. It smells/tastes like a new car, even after several burn-off sessions on max heat, cleaning with iso alcohol, and even washing the removable gasket with dish soap and water.
The vapor path contains 3 rubber parts, all of which emit smells at room temperature, and 2 of them are getting pretty hot during operation: the gasket around the oven, and the silicone stem for the pearl.
All in all, I have to say I'm very disappointed since one of the main selling points for me was that "pure vapor path".
 
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Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
I've just gotten the Miqro this week after reading/watching alot of reviews. I have to say that all in all most of the disadvantages that the reviews talked about do not apply to me, I'm a light user and the battery life is fine for me. It gets me plenty high and I love the compact and sleek form factor.

But there is one very big issue which no one seems to talk about - there is no "pure ceramic vapor path" as advertised. The device is offgassing like crazy and that's coming from an Atmos Jump user. It smells/tastes like a new car, even after several burn-off sessions on max heat, cleaning with iso alcohol, and even washing the removable gasket with dish soap and water.
The vapor path contains 3 rubber parts, all of which emit smells at room temperature, and 2 of them are getting pretty hot during operation: the gasket around the oven, and the silicone stem for the pearl.
All in all, I have to say I'm very disappointed since one of the main selling points for me was that "pure vapor path".
Mine too smelt pretty poor to start with, but got better quite rapidly (a quick ISO swab, and several burnoffs).

If you take a close look at the vapour-path you'll see that although the silicone gasket is quite large, and covers the entire bottom of the mouthpiece, very little of it is in the vapour-path.
In fact, as you close the mouthpiece lid, and the gasket comes down to meet the square zirconium tube in the vape body, most of it (the gasket) becomes isolated from the vapour.
The only parts of that silicone gasket that are in the vapour-path, are the end of the tiny 'nub' which locates in the edge of the mouthiece, and a very small ring of the gasket where the square tube meets it.
This comprises a handful of square mm at most, and is quite far from the heater/bowl so I very much doubt that the gasket is causing the taste.

The other two silicone parts (pearl post and lip of herb bowl) are much closer to the heat, and I suppose they could be causing the taste, but I think most have found that the taste dissapates after a while, but if yours doesn't I'd contact DV to say so as maybe there's an issue with your mIQro?

FWIW, I would describe myself as 'moderately sensitive' to nasty tastes from hot silicone etc, but I haven't suffered any robo-fart beyond the first day or two of use, and now enjoy the taste the mIQro delivers (caveat: it does still taste of conduction, rather than convection).

I hope it works out for you :nod:
 
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chopus

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I don't know man, you're right that when vaping actual herb the rubber taste is not very prominent after a while. But run it empty and I bet you'll still feel it. Besides, it's the possible health hazard I'm thinking about.
 
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Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
I can't speak as to any health hazard, and FC doesn't allow any materials safety discussion in a manufacturers, or products thread (although there is a materials safety thread provided elsewhere on the forum for this purpose), all I can say is that I personally am happy enough that my mIQro is safe, YMMV.

Running it empty is how I did my burnoffs, and how I determined that the bad taste had gone, back when I first got the vape, but I confess that I haven't run it empty since then (dozens of bowls back), but I have it in hand now, and am running it in smart-path 4, and all I can taste is residual herb oils, nothing 'rubbery' that I can detect, just a slight reclaimy taste, which is probably coming from the underside of the bowl, which I have only ever tried to clean once I think (ISO poured in and shaken).

How many times do you reckon you've used it now?
And how many burnoffs did you do?


Anyone else in here have a persistent smell?
 
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chopus

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It's quite new so I'd say about 4 burn-off sessions and like 8-9 bowls, with some pretty thorough cleaning in between (alcohol wipe in mouthpiece, bowl, and vapor path - jammed it in with the mini tool and twisted inside)
 
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Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
It's quite new so I'd say about 4 burn-off sessions and like 8-9 bowls, with some pretty thorough cleaning in between (alcohol wipe in mouthpiece, bowl, and vapor path - jammed it in with the mini tool and twisted inside)
That's probably a bit more than I needed to do to get mine tasting neutral, but not much IIRC.
Since you have already used it maybe keep using it a bit more to see if things improve enough to satisfy?

I think I remember another poster here who didn't like the taste, so maybe you guys are just more sensitive to it than me :shrug:
I do think I'm pretty picky re' flavour now though, compared to my early vaping days that is.
The mIQro is the only electric conduction vape that I have that I still use, the others just don't cut it anymore (Inhalator, Flowermate fm3) when it comes to taste.
I mostly stick to convection at home, and use either a GH or the mIQro when out and about, but I do find the mIQro good enough that I occasionally reach for it when I want a slow session at home.
 
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