The Ember by prrl labs

pongvape · Apr 10, 2019

hoyo77 said:
- you have to get a good seal between ember and the pipe. once that is done i pre-heat it a little bit then stir
-you have to slow your draw down a lot. slower the draw the better the hit.

Good to hear you are getting the hang of it. Having spent a lot of time messing around with the Ember, I find the speed of the draw to be a much bigger factor than the power setting. I will say that early on in the bowl, the first 3-5 draws, the hits are much more aromatic and less cloud/vape. But in the middle and late part of the bowl I get big clouds with slow draws. The key is slowing the draw down.
And hoyo77, you are exactly right, the seal between the chimney and the pipe is KEY!

hoyo77 · Apr 11, 2019

pongvape said:
Good to hear you are getting the hang of it. Having spent a lot of time messing around with the Ember, I find the speed of the draw to be a much bigger factor than the power setting. I will say that early on in the bowl, the first 3-5 draws, the hits are much more aromatic and less cloud/vape. But in the middle and late part of the bowl I get big clouds with slow draws. The key is slowing the draw down.
And hoyo77, you are exactly right, the seal between the chimney and the pipe is KEY!

yeah that and draw speed....you can immediately tell when you are in the zone with this setup...

Penny Wise · May 29, 2019

Whoa, this thing sounds really good. Why's it buried on the third page? Is this just a new-to-market/smaller manufacturer? @pongvape Are you planning to offer any other finishes? I do like the finish but would love a light yellow version.

Black_Prrl · May 29, 2019

Yep... we're just starting out and have been sorting out manufacturing and banking. We ran into visa payment challenges a couple of weeks ago when our visa processor found out that our device can be used with cannabis. Shocking!!

We're close to solving all of that and have a new version coming out soon that uses an all quartz chimney--including a perforated glass baffle that performs better than the stainless steel screen.

You can also check out a recent review in Cannabis Now! https://cannabisnow.com/meet-prrl-labs-ember-josh-winicki-interview/

Summer · May 30, 2019

@Black_Prrl, you should put a link to this is your IG story, & on reddit if you haven't. It's a good article.

hoyo77 · May 30, 2019

Are you going to give early adopters of the ember a discount on your new version with the quartz chimney?? I really like how i can use this device with a lot of the stems from my other vapes like the milanz, iheat, and a few others.

Penny Wise · May 31, 2019

@Black_Prrl, I'm with Summer, that's a great article. Very informative. By the time I'm ready to buy you'll likely have the next hardware revision out so I'll keep my eye on this thread and look forward to seeing what's in store. Damn this thing is pretty.

Black_Prrl · May 31, 2019

hoyo77 said:
Are you going to give early adopters of the ember a discount on your new version with the quartz chimney??

Yes! We'll definitely offer a special upgrade price to those who've already purchased an Ember. We've been told that the new chimneys have been sent, so we can't wait to begin shipping out the next version!

And, for those interested in concentrates, we're exploring a fritted quartz insert for the pipe and the Dabbler (14mm rig attachment). The first prototypes should also arrive with the chimneys and we'll post an update. We haven't seen anyone use this approach yet--most opting for a SS mesh pad (e.g. Mighty/Crafty and Firefly). We considered using ceramic, but didn't find a method that gave the kind of porosity needed to balance airflow with increased surface area. Suggestions welcome!

hoyo77 · Jun 18, 2019

Black_Prrl said:
Yes! We'll definitely offer a special upgrade price to those who've already purchased an Ember. We've been told that the new chimneys have been sent, so we can't wait to begin shipping out the next version!

And, for those interested in concentrates, we're exploring a fritted quartz insert for the pipe and the Dabbler (14mm rig attachment). The first prototypes should also arrive with the chimneys and we'll post an update. We haven't seen anyone use this approach yet--most opting for a SS mesh pad (e.g. Mighty/Crafty and Firefly). We considered using ceramic, but didn't find a method that gave the kind of porosity needed to balance airflow with increased surface area. Suggestions welcome!

I got an email from you guys today!! Thanks!!!

Black_Prrl · Jun 19, 2019

The new quartz chimneys are fantastic! Not only do they remove the stainless steel from the vapor pathway (replacing it with a perforated quartz baffle/screen), they also improve the performance in multiple ways. The quartz baffle ensures more even airflow, disburses the heat to minimize hot spots, and enables greater control to dial in the desired temp with your breath. The baffle is also frosted, which enhances the glow substantially--especially in low light.

We should be ready to ship soon! We're still having issues with finding a visa processor for our website, but if you DM us, we can arrange payment directly with PayPal.

Black_Prrl · Jun 30, 2019

Hey, all! Our new quartz chimney's arrived and they are fabulous! @VGOODIEZ, @Darr1, @hoyo77, if you contacted Josh about an upgrade, they should have shipped yesterday.

The quartz adds a much larger radiant heat component which allows for easier temperature control and very even heating across the bowl. Not to mention that the glow is mesmerizing! The quartz screen has holes positioned and sized to create more even airflow through your herb, further minimizing the development of hot spots.

The downside is that the quartz requires at least 15-20 seconds of preheating when starting with a cold unit and fresh bowl. During a sesh, though it maintains its heat better and allows for really dense pulls.

Darr1 said:
Is there a link for the software file ? Thanks d

A couple of folks have asked about the software for the battery. We've been using the NFE suite of tools to upgrade the firmware with new and simplified settings. You can find it at https://nfeteam.org. We do not recommend that you exceed 30 watts, or likelihood of combusting your herb becomes much greater. If you are not getting enough vapor at 26-28w, then there may be leakage between the chimney and the bowl, or try a finer grind on your herb... Or, you're just a major Hoover, and may need to slow down and take some yoga breaths.

Darr1 · Jun 30, 2019

Black_Prrl said:
Hey, all! Our new quartz chimney's arrived and they are fabulous! @VGOODIEZ, @Darr1, @hoyo77, if you contacted Josh about an upgrade, they should have shipped yesterday.

The quartz adds a much larger radiant heat component which allows for easier temperature control and very even heating across the bowl. Not to mention that the glow is mesmerizing! The quartz screen has holes positioned and sized to create more even airflow through your herb, further minimizing the development of hot spots.

The downside is that the quartz requires at least 15-20 seconds of preheating when starting with a cold unit and fresh bowl. During a sesh, though it maintains its heat better and allows for really dense pulls.

A couple of folks have asked about the software for the battery. We've been using the NFE suite of tools to upgrade the firmware with new and simplified settings. You can find it at https://nfeteam.org. We do not recommend that you exceed 30 watts, or likelihood of combusting your herb becomes much greater. If you are not getting enough vapor at 26-28w, then there may be leakage between the chimney and the bowl, or try a finer grind on your herb... Or, you're just a major Hoover, and may need to slow down and take some yoga breaths.

Thanks fellas, customer service has been fantastic throughout the whole process . Cant wait to try this new version out

Black_Prrl · Jul 1, 2019

Oh, and YES we are shipping the new quartz Embers! For the FC community, we're offering a 15% discount off the $229 kit, bringing it to $195. Since we are still dealing with visa processing woes and revamping our website, please DM me if you're interested.

hoyo77 · Jul 2, 2019

So i got my quartz ember yesterday. I unboxed it today. Had a small issue where the mod was saying no atomizer present. compared the 2 embers and noticed that on the original ember the inside screw is raised a bit more...will post pics later...so high right now. so i screwed the quartz ember down a bit tighter and that solved the issued.

now for my first session
loaded it with and started the preheating. did around 3 pulls at 27...
then started hiting and pulsing the button. draw for about 7 seconds and pulse. got very nice flavor hits doing this. cranked up to 28 and starting hitting againm got nice flavor and some whispy vapor. slowed my draw down and started getting some nice rips. cranked it to 30...slowed my draw down a bit more and i got some hits that had me coughing...was scared to take it to 32

i like the quartz better. my ABV was even. i think if i work more on my draw i can get some nice lung busters with this vape.

my only complaint is they forgot to add a stir tool to my shipment. i misplaced mine so i got to order another.

Black_Prrl · Jul 2, 2019

hoyo77 said:
So i got my quartz ember yesterday. I unboxed it today. Had a small issue where the mod was saying no atomizer present. compared the 2 embers and noticed that on the original ember the inside screw is raised a bit more...will post pics later...so high right now. so i screwed the quartz ember down a bit tighter and that solved the issued.

now for my first session
loaded it with and started the preheating. did around 3 pulls at 27...
then started hiting and pulsing the button. draw for about 7 seconds and pulse. got very nice flavor hits doing this. cranked up to 28 and starting hitting againm got nice flavor and some whispy vapor. slowed my draw down and started getting some nice rips. cranked it to 30...slowed my draw down a bit more and i got some hits that had me coughing...was scared to take it to 32

i like the quartz better. my ABV was even. i think if i work more on my draw i can get some nice lung busters with this vape.

my only complaint is they forgot to add a stir tool to my shipment. i misplaced mine so i got to order another.

So glad you were able to get some solid rips, @hoyo77! Happy to send you another BudTender (aka pick/stirrer/ginzu/sword).

For more efficient preheating when the unit is cold, try just firing it for 15-20 seconds without pulling at all. Then, fire it again and you should be able to get decent vapor almost right away. Of course with a fresh bowl as well, those first 2-3 pulls are going to have more flavor, but lighter clouds.

hoyo77 · Jul 3, 2019

Black_Prrl said:
So glad you were able to get some solid rips, @hoyo77! Happy to send you another BudTender (aka pick/stirrer/ginzu/sword).

For more efficient preheating when the unit is cold, try just firing it for 15-20 seconds without pulling at all. Then, fire it again and you should be able to get decent vapor almost right away. Of course with a fresh bowl as well, those first 2-3 pulls are going to have more flavor, but lighter clouds.

I got your email thanks...dont know where i placed the other one...trying to get high and find it!! lololol

old saying something remembered in state a can only be recalled in state a....lololol...talking about mental states

hoyo77 · Jul 11, 2019

Black_Prrl said:
So glad you were able to get some solid rips, @hoyo77! Happy to send you another BudTender (aka pick/stirrer/ginzu/sword).

For more efficient preheating when the unit is cold, try just firing it for 15-20 seconds without pulling at all. Then, fire it again and you should be able to get decent vapor almost right away. Of course with a fresh bowl as well, those first 2-3 pulls are going to have more flavor, but lighter clouds.

Thanks i got my new budtender and found my old one...lololol.
tried your preheating technique. i will say this version gives me very nicely even baked material and know dark spots. i also like that i can use stems that i have purchased from other members like alan at toasty top and ed from tnt. their stems work very well with the ember.

Vision103 · Jul 12, 2019

I got the new updated Ember. It's working better then without the quartz for sure. My beta unit had more power I felt. With the quartz it brings it back to what the beta was to me wich was great. Slow wispy hits like the mflb and its fantastic. Great for the older crowd too. Gives ya that nastalgic smoke. Not bad. Good job. Won't be disappointed if you grab.

I'll be honest I can't get good hits unless I go all the way up to 30 but the affects are there. Like the mflb. Don't see much but you get stoned.

Haze Mister · Jul 12, 2019

Ridiculoulsy overpriced...

Vision103 · Jul 12, 2019

I agree the price point is really bad.

Vision103 said:
I got the new updated Ember. It's working better then without the quartz for sure. My beta unit had more power I felt. With the quartz it brings it back to what the beta was to me wich was great. Slow wispy hits like the mflb and its fantastic. Great for the older crowd too. Gives ya that nastalgic smoke. Not bad. Good job. Won't be disappointed if you grab.

I'll be honest I can't get good hits unless I go all the way up to 30 but the affects are there. Like the mflb. Don't see much but you get stoned.

Haze Mister said:
Ridiculoulsy overpriced...

chuloquiles · Aug 7, 2019

Black_Prrl said:
Yes! We'll definitely offer a special upgrade price to those who've already purchased an Ember. We've been told that the new chimneys have been sent, so we can't wait to begin shipping out the next version!

And, for those interested in concentrates, we're exploring a fritted quartz insert for the pipe and the Dabbler (14mm rig attachment). The first prototypes should also arrive with the chimneys and we'll post an update. We haven't seen anyone use this approach yet--most opting for a SS mesh pad (e.g. Mighty/Crafty and Firefly). We considered using ceramic, but didn't find a method that gave the kind of porosity needed to balance airflow with increased surface area. Suggestions welcome!

I love my upgraded quarts chimney and if anyone has a elev8tor by 7th floor labs the ceramic dab pad fits in the new pipe. Can’t wait for the quartz insert.

Black_Prrl · Aug 8, 2019

chuloquiles said:
I love my upgraded quarts chimney and if anyone has a elev8tor by 7th floor labs the ceramic dab pad fits in the new pipe. Can’t wait for the quartz insert.

Great idea! We just ordered a few to try out. Thanks for the suggestion! The stainless steel concentrate pad from the Crafty/Mighty also fits nicely into the pipe--with or without the screen. It works extremely well as a low-temp dab pad for extracts with the quartz Ember.

As for a sintered quartz pipe insert, we tested out a few different versions with different sized quartz frit. Unfortunately, the insert took forever to heat up; at which time, the pipe was quite toasty. The airflow was also subpar. I'm looking forward to trying out the ceramic pad from 7th Floor!

rabidnz · Aug 26, 2019

Is your site down?

Black_Prrl · Aug 26, 2019

Yep... our site is down for the moment. Long boring story of delays with web developers, the Oregon Country Fair, PayPal, family visits, and vacations. Hoping to get it back up this week. Pls DM if you'd like some specific info or would like to place an order.

rabidnz · Aug 26, 2019

Ok thanks, you could put up a temp notice coz it makes it look like you've closed! The items are far too overpriced for me but I was keen to have a look at them as there is bugger all info around. Cheers and all the best.

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