UnevenPizza

I dream of Pizza
Finally made it to the weekend, and was rewarded with some nice "filler" for my stash jar! Damn fine Amnesia, no wonder it's won a bunch of tournaments :lol::whoa:

I just fell in love with looking at the buds through the glass I got myself another Roor cork one from a shop round here, and some Boveda to help keep em fresh :science:...

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The Jars actually are really good at keeping the smell contained, which with this strain/variety is pretty potent. like yikes.
And flavor is a real blast with the nano, ice stem or gong, aaaaaaaaaaaaaamazin'!

Have a nice weekend y'all!:peace:
 

scooterboy

Muppet, not moped.
The cans I'm using are about the height of an Altoids tin. But they have screw-on caps that, although not 100% airtight, would be more airtight than the Altoids tin. But I do agree that the rectangular shape would lend itself better to scooping than my round tins do.

New jars are on the way.
Just to close this loop: the new jars are still too tall. They don't allow me to dip the end of the stem into it at a low-enough angle.

I'm realizing that what I really need are the short wide jars that some makeup comes in. I think I'll find what I want there. Here's the first one I found with a quick search:
https://www.beauty-makeup-supply.co...wide-mouth-white-jars-1-oz-unlined-white-lid/

My current tins are .8" high and 2.3" wide. The jars I linked to above are 1" high and 2.8" wide. So a bit taller and a bit wider, which should be ok. But I'm going to look some more before ordering because these are plastic and glass would be preferable.
 

baxter

Well-Known Member
Just to close this loop: the new jars are still too tall. They don't allow me to dip the end of the stem into it at a low-enough angle.

I'm realizing that what I really need are the short wide jars that some makeup comes in. I think I'll find what I want there. Here's the first one I found with a quick search:
https://www.beauty-makeup-supply.co...wide-mouth-white-jars-1-oz-unlined-white-lid/

My current tins are .8" high and 2.3" wide. The jars I linked to above are 1" high and 2.8" wide. So a bit taller and a bit wider, which should be ok. But I'm going to look some more before ordering because these are plastic and glass would be preferable.

I recommend you to go to your local supermarket and you will see many glass jars in the baby food aisle or the spices aisle or the isle where they sell salsa or olives, pimentos those also come in glass jars that you may find suitable. But I think you def want glass rather than any plastic container.

As far as long term storage i find that one boveda packet + the skin of an orange (sliced into quarters) yields very good results and infuses the weed with a pleasant orange scent. I think the boveda packet sucks up any extra humidity or moisture so no problems with mold and the weed stays fresh and hydrated.

Then it goes into a smaller glass spice jar (inside my nightstand) without anything extra because I want the weed to dry out after that before I actually vape it. And i am using weed that is over 2 years old in storage since I live in an illegal state and I managed to buy a Quarter Pound and that has lasted me over 2 years and i think I only smoked half of it in 2 years since the E-nano is so efficient.

I bought my first water piece ever today, Hemper Turbine its a 5 inch piece that was $30 shipped. It really is quite small as you see it next to the E-nano. I am still waiting for the GonG to arrive so the only way I have to use it is to smoke with a lighter. I will write a review soon. But i dont understand why so many people order from DH Gate and wait a month to get the piece (and pay like $25) when there are so many Hemper bongs available for $30 and it comes in 2 or 3 days (In the USA)

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I think the Hemper bongs are a good deal, I would rather spend an extra 5 bucks and not have to wait a month. Amazing to think I waited over 2 years just with the dry stem and finally have decided to make the plunge into vaping with water.

Update: I have not smoked in like over 9 months (I only vape) and I took 1 hit with a lighter and got ZONKED! Wow! I forgot how much harder smoking hits you compared to vaping, and also I forgot the unpleasantness of the taste of combusted smoke and the nasty aftertaste that it leaves in your mouth.
 
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baxter

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I finally got the GonG and am setting it up. Plenty of clearance and I chose this water piece because it looks easy to clean and the amount of diffusion is very small (We dont need so much diffusion with vaping as compared to smoking).

Its a good hitter and it takes less than 1 Tablespoon of water (Im using water with lemon juice)

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What do you think, gang? It my first ever water piece so I am experimenting with how far to keep the screen away and with the amount of pull. I may have to buy a carb'd adapter also but I wanted to try it without first just to see how it goes.
 

arb

Semi shaved ape
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I finally got the GonG and am setting it up. Plenty of clearance and I chose this water piece because it looks easy to clean and the amount of diffusion is very small (We dont need so much diffusion with vaping as compared to smoking).

Its a good hitter and it takes less than 1 Tablespoon of water (Im using water with lemon juice)

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What do you think, gang? It my first ever water piece so I am experimenting with how far to keep the screen away and with the amount of pull. I may have to buy a carb'd adapter also but I wanted to try it without first just to see how it goes.
Looks great the nice thing about all of this is you can have it how you like it.........totally customizable experience!
 

bizwaxzion

Enigmatic Cannabist
Would you mind sharing where you found the glass spheres, or what to search? I’m having no luck...
From our local quartz guy - @710Coils. The ice stem has 6mm perls in it, I put 8mm perls (12 of them) in my standard stem. I may reduce that by a few. It makes it a bit more difficult to blow out the stem. Might also alternate 8mm and 6mm.
 

baxter

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I could use some advice on the e-nano with a water piece. I am not getting very big clouds and I moved the screen closer to the heater on the Gong (About the same distance as I use on the dry stem)

I was wondering in which way should the "sucking of air" be different than the technique used on the dry stem? And I usually start at a 5 on the first hit with dry stem so is it okay to start with same 5 on the water piece or do I need to start at a 5.5 or maybe start at a 6?

I still get high but when I exhale I see barely no vapor at all (compared to a hit with dry stem) and also I dont see the bong "milking up" like on the YouTube videos.

But in general would you say I am "wasting some of the weed" by using the water piece? I mean about some of the THC getting lost inside the water.

If we compare taking 4 hits on a dry stem compared to same 4 hits with a water piece do you think you will get less stoned with the water piece compared to using the dry stem?

What about the high itself? is it a "different high" with the water piece? It feels different to me, Its hard to describe
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
I could use some advice on the e-nano with a water piece. I am not getting very big clouds and I moved the screen closer to the heater on the Gong (About the same distance as I use on the dry stem)

I was wondering in which way should the "sucking of air" be different than the technique used on the dry stem? And I usually start at a 5 on the first hit with dry stem so is it okay to start with same 5 on the water piece or do I need to start at a 5.5 or maybe start at a 6?

I still get high but when I exhale I see barely no vapor at all (compared to a hit with dry stem) and also I dont see the bong "milking up" like on the YouTube videos.

But in general would you say I am "wasting some of the weed" by using the water piece? I mean about some of the THC getting lost inside the water.

If we compare taking 4 hits on a dry stem compared to same 4 hits with a water piece do you think you will get less stoned with the water piece compared to using the dry stem?

What about the high itself? is it a "different high" with the water piece? It feels different to me, Its hard to describe
With my Enano, that would be too low of a temp to get real clouds via any sort of stem/gong.

I run 6.5 - 7.....maybe bump up to 6.5 and see how you like it.
 

baxter

Well-Known Member
I took a hit on 6 with the water piece and I was quite high, (about an 8 or 9) for over 1 hour. This time I did see visible vapor but it wasnt "Dragon Clouds" or anything like that.

But actually this is fine, I dont like to take hits that are too hot or I get anxiety and green-out.

Even after 2 years of using the E-nano daily I still will go into "panic mode" if I take a hit that is too hot of a temperature. I mean if I pack a fresh chamber and take a hit at 7 on the dry stem I will certainly go straight into panic mode and green-out

I also tried eating 4 tablespoons of ABV last month and that was "overshooting the mark" for me and I spent about 3 hours in a state of "uncomfortably high" that is out of a total of 8 hours that the edibles lasted. I was BLASTED, I should not have shown such disrespect to edible ABV and I paid the price.
 

UnevenPizza

I dream of Pizza
You can try to inhale at a very slow speed and increase when vapor starts coming into the glass.

I usually get nice clouds at 5.5 and above, without scorching. It really depends on the material though, some gives really massive clouds and others not much more than a wisp.

:rofl: at the ABV experience @baxter, had similar ones haha..unfortunately all my abv is mixed (strain wise) and vaped at different temps, so the effect is hard to judge. And don't get me started on how different peoples metabolism affects edibles and what role your last days meals play :science::lol:

I've given up trying to find the "perfect dose" of ABV because its too much hassle for me to make sure its always vaped consistently etc (even though it surely is possible), I usually only ingest it when I am a) sick and can't vape due to respiratory tract issues or b)dankrupt ;)
 

dr demise

Well-Known Member
So after 5 years of daily use, the step down converter I had for my E-Nano went bang! And smoke started coming out of it :( so I immediately bought another one (exactly the same model as the previous one) plugged it in, and straight away that one went bang too :( so I'm guessing the problem is with the E-Nano and not the step down converter?

Has anyone else had this happen?
 

baxter

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Thank you for the feedback everybody. I will keep adjusting variables but the more and more I read I am starting to feel that a water piece is probably not FOR ME other than as a novelty.

But it really is a lot more effort to use with a water piece and so far I am feeling that I am losing efficiency with the bubbler when compared to dry stem. What I mean is that I feel that I am not getting as high with the same amount of weed (Im only getting 3 hits on the bong compared to 4 on the dry stem and certainly when I exhale I see a lot more vapor with the dry stem then the bubbler (on each hit).

But I will keep track on paper and see how many minutes I stay high with each hit on the dry stem compared to the bubbler but so far it looks like I am losing about 20% efficiency and to be honest I have never complained about the feeling of the vapor in my throat with the dry stem (So any "comfort on the throat" benefits of the bubbler are not very relevant to my case). Since I have been starting at 5 then second hit at 5.5 and 3rd hit at 6 and last hit at 6.5 and I dont even hit the dry stem at 7 anymore after reading this article about the "diminishing returns" of vaping at higher than 410F (210C):

http://www.weedist.com/2012/07/tailoring-high-compounds-in-cannabis-properties-boiling-points/
 

GetLeft

Well-Known Member
I mean if I pack a fresh chamber and take a hit at 7 on the dry stem I will certainly go straight into panic mode and green-out

Nice to know I'm not the only one who treads carefully with the nanonator :). It's an unquestionably effective vaporizer. When I was first getting to know mine, I tried it with a water piece for kicks. Lots of fun. Smooth, massively effective hits that left me walking in circles. I'm not often into circle-walking. But when I am, I know how to do it. Two good nano hits in fairly close succession.
 

baxter

Well-Known Member
Does it feel like a different high (dry stem compared to a water piece)? I have been curioous about if certain cannabanoids or terpenes are being lost in the water and the best proof of this would be if I hear people say that the high is a different one. In my opinion it does feel a little different..........
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Does it feel like a different high (dry stem compared to a water piece)? I have been curioous about if certain cannabanoids or terpenes are being lost in the water and the best proof of this would be if I hear people say that the high is a different one. In my opinion it does feel a little different..........

@baxter, I know what you mean by greening out. I also can overdo it if I'm not careful, even though I vape daily. I have never experimented with edibles for the same reason.

Everyone has their own unique perceptions with cannabis. Sometimes those perceptions can change over time or with more experiences. Take for example your experience with vaping at too high a temp and greening out. For many people like me if I vape on too low a temp then I will get more racy or sativa-like symptoms even if I'm using an indica. The higher the temp the more sedative the effect and the lower the chance for me to get that uncomfortable feeling. Now that might be your difference in body chemistry or it could be your mind convincing itself that too high a heat must equate to overdoing it. So that might change for you over time as you experience different scenarios.

I keep my nano at 6.5 regardless of type of weed or if I'm using a rosin or some other concentrate. I can adjust my experience enough by pushing the screen closer or farther away from the heater and by adjusting my rate of draw. I am quite sensitive to hot, dry vapor on my throat so a water piece or very long stem is often a necessity.

I HATE that greening out feeling. I have tried the peppercorns and sometimes that works if my mind wants it to. One thing I can recommend trying is having some CBD isolate on hand. Many feel this can take the edge off a big THC hit. I sometimes tap a small amount on top of a bowl just to smooth the edges. I have also vaped pure CBD isolate alone as a remedy when overdoing it. It works for me many times, it might for you. Here is a site that I have used and found to be quite reputable.
https://www.fullyactivated.net/coll...ts/pure-cbd-isolate-99-98?variant=35324361737
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Nice to know I'm not the only one who treads carefully with the nanonator :). It's an unquestionably effective vaporizer. When I was first getting to know mine, I tried it with a water piece for kicks. Lots of fun. Smooth, massively effective hits that left me walking in circles. I'm not often into circle-walking. But when I am, I know how to do it. Two good nano hits in fairly close succession.
I am
Not da right one to comment however da GDP @ 62% cure in da NANO 6.24765 about?
CALIFORNIA Is having a heat wave!

Turn on da heater.
POOL Season!
NANO = CIVILIZED
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
everyday is pool season A! going to swim some laps, right after I load my Ice stem.
I haven't been around here much lately. VA mostly. nice to see familiar posters.
I was shaping surfboard's when I was whole!
My friend that was in the same business came home from a war with PARKINSON'S!
Sad to see a waste of life!
EPIC makes da NANO that help's deal with unfair event's!
 
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