Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

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I got my 4/20 order over the weekend and was going to post my thoughts about all the bits (and pics of the different caps on weedeater) but I’m too high to write that right now. One of the things I have noticed is the new carb cap with 2 angled holes and 4 sic terp pearls appears to be more evenly/thoroughly cooking flower and at about ~40 degrees less on the controller than the Og vrod cap

In my head im thinking maybe the effect of the angled air and spinning pearls either means the airs in contact with hot for more of its journey or maybe disrupting that streamtube effect thing from the supreme vaporiser website

Anybody else noticed even better performance with pearls/new cap and flower?

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jardri said:
I am reading vaporents subreddit right now and I feel like Fuckcombustion is living in the Jet-Set. So much disrespect and lack of knoledge over there.
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Reddit is for lowest common denominators, always has been, always will be. They are mouth-breathers who crave drama and UPVOTES.

I have no issues with the NV controller. Under 5 minutes it's good to go and the temp holds fine. Edwyn had a momentary lapse in judgement it seems, and the people who know what the FP does will continue to be end gaming it daily.

WelshBrok said:
I got my 4/20 order over the weekend and was going to post my thoughts about all the bits (and pics of the different caps on weedeater) but I’m too high to write that right now. One of the things I have noticed is the new carb cap with 2 angled holes and 4 sic terp pearls appears to be more evenly/thoroughly cooking the material and at about ~40 degrees less on the controller than the Og vrod cap

In my head im thinking maybe the effect of the angled air and spinning pearls either means the airs in contact with hot for more of its journey or maybe disrupting that streamtube effect thing from the supreme vaporiser website

Anybody else noticed even better performance with pearls/new cap and flower?
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It's the increased surface area from the pearls. I am using the 1 hole angled VROD cap. I started on 2 5mm SiC pearls and it was good, but added 2 more 5mm quartz and the difference is huge. I have 20 more SiC coming from DH, and I will be experimenting all the way up to a dish full of pearls.

More surface area and better heat retention seem to be the main factors. So more pearls = better. If anyone else can chime in and has filled a dish with pearls, please do!
 
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PandaLee

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So four terp balls now...I might as well, I got 12 of them quartz ones. I've been doing 3 at a time, dumping them in a little case of iso when done, and putting 3 new ones in there to heat up for the next dab. Going to try 4 when I get home. And I've been thinking of buying a bunch of SiC ones from DH Gate.

I went from wrap-around Sic Head to the Vrod with the SiC head (and two angled-hole carb cap). I have the same NV controller. I've had to go up in heat...for dabbing, on my controller, I went from 640 to now 690 to get to about the same heat point with the Vrod.
 
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:doh: I’d hoped we were done with this...see @Stu ’s message above...but I need to point out one more thing to the people who think Edwyn is acting like a child, etc.

I think that he is (like me) less good at social interactions than average. I don’t believe that he’s trying to be a jerk or that he has anything but good intentions toward his customers, but those of us who struggle with these kinds of things don’t always see the mistakes we’re making until a situation has already blown up on us. We could use a little slack sometimes from those of you who find it relatively easy to navigate the human social world.

I do hope that in the future he’ll be more careful when dealing with situations like this, but he clearly does care about the products he makes and about providing not just what *he* wants but what *we* want.

I’m personally willing to get past the occasional misstep to keep the collaborative design process and public interaction going, and that public interaction is the only reason we saw any of this. If we saw the worst interactions most businesses had behind the scenes and gave them this much weight, we probably wouldn’t buy from very many companies.

If you can’t give him a break, don’t buy, but I think you’re being just as unnecessarily upset by the whole thing as he was. :disgust:
 
PandaLee

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Newwvape has always done right by me, and my three local friends that I referred over. Questions answered quickly, quick shipping (and I've ordered once during the middle of a hurricane and during the 420 sales) and orders were all complete. I haven't had to deal with returns, so I have no experience with that customer service aspect. It takes a lot to make me abandon something I really like. Function and reliability matter most to me, and nothing that has recently transpired change that for me. My Vrod should still be able to rock for many years even if they went out of business, but then we'd be missing out on their future innovations...which they've been very active with (to the expense of my wallet)
 
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PandaLee said:
Newwvape has always done right by me, and my three local friends that I referred over. Questions answered quickly, quick shipping (and I've ordered once during the middle of a hurricane and during the 420 sales) and orders were all complete. I haven't had to deal with returns, so I have no experience with that customer service aspect. It takes a lot to make me abandon something I really like. Function and reliability matter most to me, and nothing that has recently transpired change that for me. My Vrod should still be able to rock for many years even if they went out of business, but then we'd be missing out on their future innovations...which they've been very active with (to the expense of my wallet)
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Agreed, I’m still in. Just purchased me some more of that innovation first thing this morning!
 
turk

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...had a job where I dealt with the public for over 30 years ( city government)...dealing with the public is very problematic...at the end of the day I’m gonna judge Edwyn by his products and his interactions with me...when I need him...I’m happy with my interactions with newvape on those issues...all the rest is just noise..(imo)...
man this thing rips me...
 
stinkytofus

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Newvape hooked him up, at least write a glowing review and make his personal displeasure of the pid controller minimal at best or say it in private and suggest in review users can upgrade to the auber 300
 
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superdang9000

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@stinkytofus Say what? First of all, it was minimal. Have you watched the video? It's almost entirely positive. Which should speak volumes all in itself, because the perfect vaporizer for every person simply does not exist.

Second, leaving any remotely negative comments to private conversations alone would accomplish nothing but damage the credibility of the reviewer and company alike. That's the entire point of being an impartial and transparent 3rd party reviewer... otherwise you're just another company shill. You cannot expect to have a thorough, honest review while simultaneously trying to squash the same honest, intellectual discourse just because it might be perceived in a negative light. The whole concept that someone can be "paid" and expected to leave nothing but glowing reviews is ridiculous and should be frowned upon by any conscientious consumer. Neither the company nor the reviewer should be trusted.

Now, I'm not stating that's what happened here. But what you're suggesting is exactly what we (as consumers) should be discouraging, not promoting.

I wasn't planning to comment on any of this, and don't intend to say any more but seeing this type of stance on business ethics is discouraging.
 
Shrike

Shrike

Flower Potted, Maxed, & Rio'd.
^^^:tup:

Can anyone who still needs to complain about NewVape or Edwyn, take it to the company itself or continue to bleat on Reddit. :nod:

The VAST majority of us have had nothing but great experiences with this company and the gentleman who owns/runs it. He has listened constantly to our suggestions and has done nothing but make his great products even better. This is a rarity in this line of business. :clap:

So he has a few quirks that upset some people...who the fuck among us is not guilty of that from time to time. Get over it...or don't. :shrug:

I just placed another small order with him that was immediately sent out. Plan on a larger order in the next month or so.

As always...just my :2c: Take it exactly for what it's worth...
 
Jgott56

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WelshBrok said:
I’d hate to be that person who gets told not to get a flowerpot due to a reddit argument over an affiliate program, buys something else not as good and ends up buying the flowerpot anyway and wasting the money on the vape in between :doh:

Maybe it’s personal preference but I personally recommend vapes and like to be recommended vapes on the merit of the vape, not how well their creator handles social media and marketing :tup:

Ps. Nuff said and I’m liking the insulated handle system and looking forward to see what mad custom stuff happens with it
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For many people principles factor into their purchase decisions. The social media stuff seems like the tip of the iceberg.
 
WelshBrok

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thevapist said:
Reddit is for lowest common denominators, always has been, always will be. They are mouth-breathers who crave drama and UPVOTES.

I have no issues with the NV controller. Under 5 minutes it's good to go and the temp holds fine. Edwyn had a momentary lapse in judgement it seems, and the people who know what the FP does will continue to be end gaming it daily.



It's the increased surface area from the pearls. I am using the 1 hole angled VROD cap. I started on 2 5mm SiC pearls and it was good, but added 2 more 5mm quartz and the difference is huge. I have 20 more SiC coming from DH, and I will be experimenting all the way up to a dish full of pearls.

More surface area and better heat retention seem to be the main factors. So more pearls = better. If anyone else can chime in and has filled a dish with pearls, please do!
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So I tried 7 pearls (3quartz newvape, 4 Sic from 710coils) and I think it’s better with just the 4 sic pearls as they’re slightly smaller (even though both types are 4mm) and easier to get moving and the movement appears to accompany the more even heating. It’s like mighty style even avb at 50degrees less than the og cap with no bowl preheat (so minimal conduction). I mean the avb wasn’t even that uneven before but now it’s basically totally uniform no matter the draw rate and I’ve got the revA dark ring edition (though I had to try to actually get the dark ring before anyway)

Also with the ball tip dabber in the vertical pos, I can leave the new carb cap almost permanently on the vrod and take it off without burning myself
 
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WelshBrok said:
I think it’s better with just the 4 sic pearls as they’re slightly smaller (even though both types are 4mm) and easier to get moving and the movement appears to accompany the more even heating. It’s like mighty style even avb at 50degrees less than the og cap with no bowl preheat (so minimal conduction).
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Oh you're using the terp balls for flower too? Interesting. I have before once by accident. When I had the terp balls heating up in the vrod for a dab but forgot and loaded flower to vape first. Maybe I try it again and pay attention this time to any differences!
 
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WelshBrok said:
I got my 4/20 order over the weekend and was going to post my thoughts about all the bits (and pics of the different caps on weedeater) but I’m too high to write that right now. One of the things I have noticed is the new carb cap with 2 angled holes and 4 sic terp pearls appears to be more evenly/thoroughly cooking flower and at about ~40 degrees less on the controller than the Og vrod cap

In my head im thinking maybe the effect of the angled air and spinning pearls either means the airs in contact with hot for more of its journey or maybe disrupting that streamtube effect thing from the supreme vaporiser website

Anybody else noticed even better performance with pearls/new cap and flower?

Edit: changed material to flower
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WelshBrok said:
So I tried 7 pearls (3quartz newvape, 4 Sic from 710coils) and I think it’s better with just the 4 sic pearls as they’re slightly smaller (even though both types are 4mm) and easier to get moving and the movement appears to accompany the more even heating. It’s like mighty style even avb at 50degrees less than the og cap with no bowl preheat (so minimal conduction). I mean the avb wasn’t even that uneven before but now it’s basically totally uniform no matter the draw rate and I’ve got the revA dark ring edition (though I had to try to actually get the dark ring before anyway)

Also with the ball tip dabber in the vertical pos, I can leave the new carb cap almost permanently on the vrod and take it off without burning myself
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I believe this is what I was experiencing with the showerhead and a multihole carb cap, plus the greatness of the terp pearls added to the VRod's awesome abilities.

Basically, all thumbs up :)

I've been dabbing at 590f for a few days/weeks now, and its only when I go really stupid with my dab size that I'm getting any pooling of any kind.

The VRod set up like this makes double deckers more likely for me.
 
WelshBrok

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PandaLee said:
Oh you're using the terp balls for flower too? Interesting. I have before once by accident. When I had the terp balls heating up in the vrod for a dab but forgot and loaded flower to vape first. Maybe I try it again and pay attention this time to any differences!
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Yeah I only originally got them for dabs but I've been capping flower recently and didn’t really want to have to switch in and out the hot bouncy little spheres so have been running them when capping flower. I’ll have to take all the pearls out at some point to see if it’s just the new 2 holed angled cap alone but it seems when they spin it works best
 
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WelshBrok said:
Yeah I only originally got them for dabs but I've been capping flower recently and didn’t really want to have to switch in and out the hot bouncy little spheres so have been running them when capping flower. I’ll have to take all the pearls out at some point to see if it’s just the new 2 holed angled cap alone but it seems when they spin it works best
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Logically, the pearls must be adding some heat on that first draw, I guess it depends on how long they take to cool down and lose effectiveness.

I must get enough pearls to fill the whole dish at some point, just try it :)

EDIT: And yes! Tiny ball point dabber! I only use it horizontally but sometimes I forget to take the cap off or I leave it on to vape off the reclaim build up, and rarely, if ever, does the actual ball point get too hot to pick up.
 
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