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Sapphire and Ruby inserts for bangers

tylerj55

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Just got an email from noisybeeglass they couldn’t make the bangers. I replied to that and had my refund processed immediately, so I would definitely order from them again based on that. Now I’m back to hunting for the perfect banger again, wish I had just waited to order lol.
 
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Just got an email from noisybeeglass they couldn’t make the bangers. I replied to that and had my refund processed immediately, so I would definitely order from them again based on that. Now I’m back to hunting for the perfect banger again, wish I had just waited to order lol.

I just got the same. I ended up cancelling my GG 22mm ruby insert as well. Going to wait til @710Coils has some made custom for his bangers.

I was hesitant about switching bangers anyway, so this just keeps it all in the family!
 
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exmex

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Got the same email. Cancelled the order (got the refund right away) and just ordered a banger and coil from @710Coils instead since i needed a coil. Ill still keep my order with Greek for the 22mm ruby but hopefully Shane gets gem inserts that fits his 30mm bangers good but for now my 19mm GG ruby fits in a 25mm 710coil perfectly:rockon: so at least im set on that already.

The last couple days ive been trying to switch up my setup from my usual ruby in a quartz banger just for fun. Ive gone back to a liger air with sapphire and obsidian inserts and trying a 20mm obsidian in a quartz banger and even just hitting off the quartz alone, all heated by enail of course. While each one was good i feel the ruby in the quartz banger the best for both flavor and cloud production and its the one i felt i get the smoothest hits with lots of flavour from. I wanna get one of Fadespace's AlN inserts to compare to the ruby since he claims its the best dabbing surface out now. Honestly the dude seems like a dab noob ( sorry to sound snob-y) from watching his on livestreams and what not but it is a new dabbin surface and im a sucker for that type of new thing :rolleyes::lol:

Anyways Im dabbing on some OG Blueberry Swirl Rosin i pressed myself and some Wedding Jam Full Spectrum Diamonds i scooped and am lovin life :):peace: happy 420 everyone! Have a great weekend :leaf:
 

tylerj55

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Man I’m taking it that this email is a sign I should cancel the greek glass order I placed and just be patient for the perfect set.
 
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tylerj55

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I just got the same. I ended up cancelling my GG 22mm ruby insert as well. Going to wait til @710Coils has some made custom for his bangers.

I was hesitant about switching bangers anyway, so this just keeps it all in the family!
Did GG cancel your order quickly? I emailed him last night and have not yet received a response.
 
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biohacker

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Not very impressed by the videos i've seen posted from Adapt Tech with their new drop in sapphire and ruby inserts. They're either not torching long enough, or they simply only provide the lowest temperature vapour, and leave pooling. I've had much better results with thick ass opaque dish insert drops than what i've seen so far. I hope i'm wrong, but the industry seems to be grasping at straws for a dollar these days IMO.
 

explanga

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I am very interested in all of this and have a science/tech/medicine background.

I have family in fabrication business as well. I may have 24mm rubies and 24mm advanced ceramics made to do comparisons keeping all other variables the same. Maybe I can do some kind of pre-order and let people join in, as I may need to get a bunch. Probably not looking to do it commercially but if enough demand maybe. 24 is a great size for a 25mm banger with 2.5 walls. I think making walls thicker for insert is not necessary, and wasting surface area potentially.

I am an enail user mostly but will keep people who prefer torching / primarily torch users in mind. Still haven't heard a real reason to prefer it vaporization wise. Good for camping for sure! lol
And it's cool yeah, the flame and waiting and timing and then it's done. No wires.

I am also very interested in the science and what variables are most important. For instance, conductivity, specific heat, and a few others seem to be important. How much heat is required for a dab of given size and makeup is a good question.

If the ceramic holds more than enough heat, than the conductivity should make it superior. I need to do more comparisons. I am making large surface area and extra thick and tall, so that there should be a bunch of thermal energy no matter what.

Most companies will make what most people will buy. I want to have the best even if it's just for a select few who will get it.

We are getting into the vaporization temp and rates of degradation, etc.

Another thought, maybe temps needs need to be adjusted, or maybe some materials vape more at once than others and people are taking smaller hits thinking it's smoother or tastes better, or the terps are vaping more slowly so you get it over multiple hits on gems, I don't know.

I will detail what I have and have tested soon for our comparison and science purposes. Some of it I want to sell new though, I am raising money to help some folks in need and that matters more than my collection and extras of everything. Including sic, sapphire, ruby, vapes, attachments. I will try to offer that here first I need to check out the exchange I imagine it's like Reddit. I like to hook people up.

A few of you recently said you tried your old sic vs your new ruby, and thought it taste better, but are all variables the same? And maybe dab size comes into play as well, bigger dab vaped more slowly might draw the flavor out, vs finishing it one cloud, you are just getting the end of it vs a bunch of hits.

More to come. I am going to look for other applicable threads but this is the main one that caught my eye.
 
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exmex

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So just wanted to throw this out there that 30mm CCA710 inserts fit in AH 35mm xxxl banger. Ive had my eye on it for while hoping that it could work with my 30mm sapphire and obsidian insert so i could have a all glass airway and it works perfectly.:rockon: Even got it on sale so thats a bonus:clap:
 

explanga

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That is a nice huge size! And they make a coil for it . Not as large/tall a coil going way up the banger like 710coils but still bet it works nice. What do people think of the cotter pin? It that glass a weak point?

I'm using the 710coils clips.
 
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tylerj55

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Still no refund from GG for my ruby insert, even though he said he would do it yesterday, after asking for it on Monday and Tuesday. I don’t think I would order from him again after this experience. He’s had plenty of time to update his site(understandable) and bash other companies for bad business practices(ironic). Hopefully he refunds me soon so I don’t have to go through my card.
 
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explanga

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Try writing on Instagram and use something catchy he will see in the first sentence/chat list.
 
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Justpassedu

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Got the FadeSpace Sic insert for my 30mm banger.Needless to say it arrived with a small chip and only the bottom of the dish was polished and the job that was done did not look so great - https://i.imgur.com/82dzbC9.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/aiAyaZ3.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/VbS183e.jpg . Supposedly it was a 2nd that I was shipped on accident so I had asked for a replacement to be mailed asap and when a few days went by with no tracking I asked for a refund & got it the same day. So this 2nd was on the house. I did give it a try but cannot find a great temp and I am also somewhat scared to use it. What do you guys think ? Not going to fault the company so much as they did refund me quickly but they never should have let this guy ship when a customer is paying $100+ for a insert imo .
 

invertedisdead

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Got the FadeSpace Sic insert for my 30mm banger.Needless to say it arrived with a small chip and only the bottom of the dish was polished and the job that was done did not look so great - https://i.imgur.com/82dzbC9.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/aiAyaZ3.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/VbS183e.jpg . Supposedly it was a 2nd that I was shipped on accident so I had asked for a replacement to be mailed asap and when a few days went by with no tracking I asked for a refund & got it the same day. So this 2nd was on the house. I did give it a try but cannot find a great temp and I am also somewhat scared to use it. What do you guys think ? Not going to fault the company so much as they did refund me quickly but they never should have let this guy ship when a customer is paying $100+ for a insert imo .

Damn man that sucks! One dude told me he ordered a quartz banger from them that came with a concaved bottom, and a sic insert with a protruding nipple on the bottom; none of them usable. At least you were able to get your money back.

Unfortunately, they seem to spend a lot more time dissing other brands product quality more than paying attention to their own stuff.
 
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Justpassedu

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Damn man that sucks! One dude told me he ordered a quartz banger from them that came with a concaved bottom, and a sic insert with a protruding nipple on the bottom; none of them usable. At least you were able to get your money back.

Unfortunately, they seem to spend a lot more time dissing other brands product quality more than paying attention to their own stuff.
I was pretty surprised when it arrived being I spent so much imo. My Dnail Sic Halo I use from time to time put it to shame quality wise , although who knows as they said this was a 2nd. I cannot fault them in the customer service department as I did get a refund pretty quick but was honestly hoping to just get a nice insert instead of the refund. Well at least I get to keep this 1 for free & now I can try a Ruby 1 when the time comes. I will still use this Sic one I got , its not super bad just nothing worth what I would have spent. I tried 580F , 600F and 640F so far and keep getting more pooling than I'd like.
 

explanga

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What setup are you using it in?

Shouldn't pool anymore than quartz or gems , should be less even.
 
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derosavapore

Solo canotto!
My Sic insert from fadespace is perfect in shape, surface and there was no trouble at all.
But, personally, there is nothing it can do better as a ruby. I don't know if this material is safe,
if rubies are safe. The promised x-tra-low-temp experience... I can not confirm.
 
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plankton011

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I will still use this Sic one I got , its not super bad just nothing worth what I would have spent. I tried 580F , 600F and 640F so far and keep getting more pooling than I'd like.

With you on this. Glad to have found this thread last night, here's what I have to contribute

Got a fadespace sic insert for my deep greek banger. At first I was well impressed by the flavor difference and higher temp over the quartz greek inserts I was using. Started noticing more pooling, and figured it was a combination of the larger amounts I was dabbing and the cheap banger not holding much heat after a few months. Figured a thick 25mm banger from greek would do the trick, little more retention, and the walls would nearly make contact with the insert rather than have some wiggle room. Got the banger, and I was disappointed when my first dab went straight down the neck, because the top is misformed in multiple ways and 1 of 6 carb caps I now have (after a run to a couple smoke shops with the banger in my pocket) actually almost seal and function. It was $20 and if that's the shit I'm gonna get sent after buying at least a couple dozen things from him then I can't be bothered to send it back and get another I'll be disappointed with. Am I happy with how its functioning now? No, I can heat both for 45s, dab in at 600 and have to reheat three times to actually finish an 1/8th gram dab. Cleaning is easy, cool. After reading all this last night I ordered a thick 25mm from 710coils, and expect to be satisfied with it. Despite my slight disappointment with the pooling left in the SiC from Fadespace, the flavor is good. I'll wait for 710coils to make a sic or *maybe* gemstone insert, like someone suggested above. The AlN from fadespace would be a buy from me if there was a 30mm version, scientifically sounds undeniably good, and that added surface area (like someone mentioned with their 30mm sic a bit ago) sounds like a blessing in a decently thick banger.
/rant, just wanted to get my experiences out there.
 
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superdang9000

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Posted this in the Quartz Banger thread, but I finally found a banger that works great with my Constant Gems insert... It's a Long Island Quartz banger, 3mm thick with a nice, deep bucket.

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invertedisdead

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Posted this in the Quartz Banger thread, but I finally found a banger that works great with my Constant Gems insert... It's a Long Island Quartz banger, 3mm thick with a nice, deep bucket.

IMG-20190503-085131.jpg

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Awesome setup bro! My buddy has a Long Island banger and it's very nice. Despite having a thinner puck, it holds heat longer than my China quartz.

Are the sidewalls 1.5mm? I almost grabbed one of these like two months ago but wasn't sure about the fitment but it seems like its fits fine!

Did you see the etched one they just posted, goes perfect with your galactic location!! :brow:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw7m_AMHwXa/
 

superdang9000

Flameo Hotman!
@invertedisdead Dude, what. :whoa: I started my morning blissfully unaware that rad Star Wars glass like this existed. Now I need to have it! My life's mission has only just begun. :rofl:

I had one of the flower of life etched bangers in my cart for like, 2 days before I decided I'd just stick with the clear one for now. If they had a 4/20 sale, I probably would've jumped on it.

Anyway, the walls are 3mm, nice and thick like those Greek Glass ones, with a beveled lip. Pretty sure it's a 4mm floor. Probably another 3-5mm deeper than my 710coils banger too, which is exactly what I wanted.

May the 4th be with you!
 

explanga

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Yeah that's why I plan on making some extra large stuff so we can compare a huge AlN to a huge Ruby. AlN should conduct heat better, ruby should hold more heat, but a big insert should have plenty held and high conductivity would mean it transfers faster, diffusivity.
 
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jamesvally

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im getting over his shit talking of other companies when he cant even deliver his own inserts.
Yea I'm starting to get quite irritated on when he's going to deliver these inserts. Everytime I ask its another delay... About to but the bullet and just buy my backup ruby and sapphire from adapt tech or Constant
 
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