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Ctipp22

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Im gonna try 7 7.5 and 8 on first rips to see if I extract a lot of a big single first rip. I tried 7 early and the first hit is whispy but flavorful but I like to get a little more on my first rip. I like blowing out a moderate sized cloud at least.
Good advice for @Ctipp22 @vapmanjoe . Yes 7 is a good balance for clouds, effect and smoothness while preserving that amazing trademark flavour.

6-6.5 can certainly yield very satisfying hits, with even better flavour it has to be said but arguably slightly underwhelming effects and as the XL is already such a gentle extractor, I always tended to just stick to around 7 on the dial.

Going higher is certainly an option. At 8 it becomes considerably more beastly. Personally with my extremely sensitive respiratory system I was only ever able to tolerate up to setting 7 and even 7.5 would cause noticeably more irritation for me personally whereas 7 was always ok just about.

So @Ctipp22 just play around. At 8, a smaller load will work. 7 or less, I would suggest a fair sized load, like 0.33 upwards. 0.5 is good. It doeasnt go stale, popcorn for a long time. Starting with a coarser grind works very well to to prolong the load and allows you to break the herb down more finally as you go along and aggregates to release new bursts of flavour and keep that vapor production equally dense for a longer time.

Good luck with it man. Im super excited for you. I wanna hear all about it. :nod::popcorn:

(Ps. Dont tell Seb how much Bud made selling on his FREE XL.) ;)
 

Alexis

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Im gonna try 7 7.5 and 8 on first rips to see if I extract a lot of a big single first rip. I tried 7 early and the first hit is whispy but flavorful but I like to get a little more on my first rip. I like blowing out a moderate sized cloud at least.
Well one characteristic of the XL, and IMO something I would look to accept and work with rather than try and change: it does take a little priming. It just always has done. It isnt a 0-60 vape.

This I just accepted about it. Draws 2 and 3 are decidedly denser, and before long you are "cooking with gas" as my friend Dave says. But for sure, a higher temp will go some way to negate this.

You CAN go up to 10. Some do. Or you can raise the screen up by resting it above the dimples. This works to increase vapor density and hitting power, also allows a smaller load with faster extraction.

Sorry Im not sure about the screens atm and alternative options. I only ever used the stock screens. I will give it some thought but my problem solving skills are pretty shite right now.
 

Ctipp22

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Well one characteristic of the XL, and IMO something I would look to accept and work with rather than try and change: it does take a little priming. It just always has done. It isnt a 0-60 vape.

This I just accepted about it. Draws 2 and 3 are decidedly denser, and before long you are "cooking with gas" as my friend Dave says. But for sure, a higher temp will go some way to negate this.

You CAN go up to 10. Some do. Or you can raise the screen up by resting it above the dimples. This works to increase vapor density and hitting power, also allows a smaller load with faster extraction.

Sorry Im not sure about the screens atm and alternative options. I only ever used the stock screens. I will give it some thought but my problem solving skills are pretty shite right now.
It was pretty close at 7 so my first action will just be putting more material because I barely put any and trying 7.5. Honestly I think itll work. Im not trying for a crazy chalky rip but I gotta be blowing a nice cloud on rip 1. Ill for sure dial it tonight. All you need is BIG lungs and a long ass draw. Taste is pure pure so far. Just like heating glass with a torch. Ill post on VL a little clip of a extracted first rip later.
 

Alexis

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It was pretty close at 7 so my first action will just be putting more material because I barely put any and trying 7.5. Honestly I think itll work. Im not trying for a crazy chalky rip but I gotta be blowing a nice cloud on rip 1. Ill for sure dial it tonight. All you need is BIG lungs and a long ass draw. Taste is pure pure so far. Just like heating glass with a torch. Ill post on VL a little clip of a extracted first rip later.
Sounds good man, Im sure you will dial it in and find your own happy medium and compromise. It has to be said however, that the XL was designed specifically to work with full loads, 0.5 ideally is optimum for how this device works. That is what it does best and how it shines. I dont mean to imply you cant use it other ways, just wanted to emphasise it's strongsuit.
 

Ctipp22

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Sounds good man, Im sure you will dial it in and find your own happy medium and compromise. It has to be said however, that the XL was designed specifically to work with full loads, 0.5 ideally is optimum for how this device works. That is what it does best and how it shines. I dont mean to imply you cant use it other ways, just wanted to emphasise it's strongsuit.
Yeah it was literally 5 minutes before running out the door this morning so this time around like get a nice half full chamber with plenty in there. it was a quick 10 minute pre heat
 

Alexis

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Yeah it was literally 5 minutes before running out the door this morning so this time around like get a nice half full chamber with plenty in there. it was a quick 10 minute pre heat
Pre-heating the bowl with injector- did you do that? That is essential to get more immediate vapor production. 10 mins should be plenty enough to get heater to temp. You can load bowl first and sit injector on top to warm up, there is very minimal conduction taking place so you never need to worry about wasting herb in the bowl when not inhaling.
 

Ctipp22

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Pre-heating the bowl with injector- did you do that? That is essential to get more immediate vapor production. 10 mins should be plenty enough to get heater to temp. You can load bowl first and sit injector on top to warm up, there is very minimal conduction taking place so you never need to worry about wasting herb in the bowl when not inhaling.

Do you happen to know the mm diameter of the injector stand ? seems like I might be able to find screens and stands here in USA for a better deal.
 

Zak McKracken

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It was a trade and he didn’t get some sort of sweet crazy deal. He was actually very generous and nice enough to give me something I wanted really bad. If you have bad things to say about him you don’t really know him...

I think he was stating the opposite ...I just didn't get the pun :)
 
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It was a trade and he didn’t get some sort of sweet crazy deal. He was actually very generous and nice enough to give me something I wanted really bad. If you have bad things to say about him you don’t really know him...
Whoops, me and my sense of humour landing me in trouble again! I always make the mistake of assuming that it will be obvious to everybody that I am just joking about.

But of course, I forget that true humour relies on an element of seriousness/deception.

Listen, I love Bud. You must know from knowing me around- Ive never dissed him or anyone that didn't really deserve it one bit. Im just a joker in life so please don't think I have any negative views of Bud whatsoever.

Soz for the misunderstanding bro. I just wanted to clarify this because I wouldn't want anything getting back to Bud that someone had been speaking down on him.
 
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Ctipp22

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Whoops, me and my sense of humour landing me in trouble again! I always make the mistake of assuming that it will be obvious to everybody that I am just joking about.

But of course, I forget that true humour relies on an element of seriousness/deception.

Listen, I love Bud. You must know from knowing me around- Ive never dissed him or anyone that didn't really deserve it one bit. Im just a joker in life so please don't think I have any negative views of Bud whatsoever.

Soz for the misunderstanding bro. I just wanted to clarify this because I wouldn't want anything getting back to Bud that someone had been speaking down on him.

I wasn't worried about you. I don't want someone to get the wrong info.
 

Ctipp22

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I can get vapor on rip one but its lonnnngggg and feels super potent with minimal vapor, like im just melting the low temp cannabinoids and still can make you cough. Then its game on . Khaleesi needs to tame this dragon.
 

Zangano Cruel

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Hola FC and FCers.
Herbo Digi Ti landed this Saturday morning.
Talk about a happy “end of the month” ending.
A beauty on its own.
Already set to 666F.
Weird enough, all my PIDs seem to be at optimal temperature, at those numbers jajajajajaja
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Sitting at the Glass Symphony stand, mixed in between the rest of the lineup.

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Using the 14 funnel bowl, with the solid glass screen, through a U “Freddie” adapter and the beautiful stand/j-hook/pipe.
Flavorful hits using whole nugs.
So far so good.
Beautiful desktop indeed ;)
I’m enjoying it a lot.
Happy April Fools Day.
Feliz Día de Los Inocentes.
Stay vaped.


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pxl_jockey

Just a dude
I keep forgetting and still have to report that I had a really nice experience with Sebastien recently. He impressed me so much that I’m definitely gonna get a herbo Ti later this year. I was ordering some stuff a while back for a friend’s system and had some weird issues with my bank card. This was over a weekend and Sebastien emailed me within minutes(!) of my order failing. He explained what it might be in his experience so I was able to check with the bank and got it all sorted. After my order was confirmed, I got another personal email thanking me and since I had asked about the silicone sleeve for the handle not being online, he was throwing one in for free. Monday I got an email telling me that he forgot to tell his helper to put it in the box so he was sending it out the next day by mail. He was so thoughtful! Next few days, the package arrived by courier and the sleeve came the day after. Satisfied customer!! This wasn’t a big € order at all and he treated me like I was buying out the store.

So I forgive & forget about my shitty XL bubbler and honestly wish I had tried to buy one from him rather than from VDNM’s stock. I also believe @Alexis is totally right that if I had mentioned how bad that tube was to Sebastien, when it happened, he would have probably made me another even though he had discontinued making the bubbler in that size. I didn’t say anything obviously, that’s just the impression that I got from him. This is just the kind of person/company that I like giving money to.
 

vitriol

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Hey guys, I've owned an herborizer xl 18.8 for probably close to 10 years now. I love it, and no other vape I've tried compares. Now I see the ti digi is available, and have a friend that would be willing to buy my xl.

I normally do long sessions with my gf with 2 different bowls as we don't have the same preferences. I like the fact we don't need to change and refill the bowls all the time as they are pretty big, and that the taste stays the same for a long time.

Now I prefer the looks and ease of cleaning of the ti, plus the digital temp control sounds nice. Also the handles on the bowl look way sturdier than the xl (broke one before). The new concentrates bowl looks nice too, as I miss smoking hash.

The thing is, reading stuff here like "extracts all the thc in one or two puffs" and the smaller bowl size has me worried I'll spend the evening grinding and changing bowls if I get the digi ti.

What do you guys think?
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Hey guys, I've owned an herborizer xl 18.8 for probably close to 10 years now. I love it, and no other vape I've tried compares. Now I see the ti digi is available, and have a friend that would be willing to buy my xl.

I normally do long sessions with my gf with 2 different bowls as we don't have the same preferences. I like the fact we don't need to change and refill the bowls all the time as they are pretty big, and that the taste stays the same for a long time.

Now I prefer the looks and ease of cleaning of the ti, plus the digital temp control sounds nice. Also the handles on the bowl look way sturdier than the xl (broke one before). The new concentrates bowl looks nice too, as I miss smoking hash.

The thing is, reading stuff here like "extracts all the thc in one or two puffs" and the smaller bowl size has me worried I'll spend the evening grinding and changing bowls if I get the digi ti.

What do you guys think?
Yes it's more an heavy hitter with a smaller bowl designed for a small numbers of inhalation, I never used the XL but peoples told us the Ti offers thicker and dense vapor in comparison with the XL which seems better in term of taste conservation but offering airy hits. If you want to load it and going for an evening without to refill I think it is not designed to be used like that.
It's better to get a container with ground herb, a heated Herborizer Ti and a bubbler... put a tiny spoon of weed in the bowl take a hit, or two... or three, dump the load in your abv container, refill and repeat... I understand your concerns but this is not a big deal although I understand you get used to your Xl's ritual and don't want to change it, sadly it will not be doable with the Ti.

If your friend don't want your Xl send me a PM:p
 

vitriol

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I understand your concerns but this is not a big deal although I understand you get used to your Xl's ritual and don't want to change it, sadly it will not be doable with the Ti.

If your friend don't want your Xl send me a PM:p

Thanks for your opinion PNN, unfortunately not what I was hoping to hear :rofl:

I read the cable on the digi is not the same that the XL, so I guess using both the XL and ti with the same controller is not an option either. Maybe being able to vape hash will make it worthwhile to change my routine... :shrug:

I still have a few days before I need to take a decision, I'll think about it!
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Sorry, not what you want to hear again but I don't recommand you to buy it if only for hasch cause the enail feature is outdated and doesn't provide smooth and tasty hits. But the herb function can handle haschich a lot better (enail is more for very pure extracts) than most vape since you get a good marge of heat since usually you vape flowers between 3 and 7 on the controller and concentrates between 6 and 10.

For herbs it's a very powerfull vape I enjoyed, I sold mine cause I get a homemade vape which was used in the same mood but I'm thinking to get another Ti or XL when I will get some money I can spend in.
 

Alexis

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I read the cable on the digi is not the same that the XL, so I guess using both the XL and ti with the same controller is not an option either. Maybe being able to vape hash will make it worthwhile to change my routine... :shrug:

Hey there. @PPN has already given you some great advice, he knows his vapes top dude!

You cant use the DigiTi with the XL controller. I mean even if you could I'm not aware that Sebastien even sells it that way it comes as a system or pack with a bubbler only.

But, you CAN use the analogue Ti with the XL controller. It may be worth you considering keeping hold of your XL Herborizer and picking up an analogue Ti system to complement it.

The analogue Ti offers the same identical style of vaping and level of extraction as the digital, just not as powerful in terms of heat up time and maybe not quite as consistent and stable throughout the session but this is still theory and conjecture to a point.

But you won't be missing anything performance wise once up to temperature and you have a feel for the variables to get the type of performance and extraction you want.

The analogue Ti system is also considerably cheaper than the digital and this way if it was financially possible you would still have your XL to use for the type of sessioning you describe with the more modern powerhouse of the Ti to change things up and experience your herb in a different way with a different vapor signature and effects profile.

That way you can have the best of both worlds. You may have read me mention my friend Dave who has owned the XL herborizer since 2011 and absolutely adores it for the exact same reason you describe about how you can use it for a prolonged session without needing to tend to the load, and without flavour and vapor production declining and needing to intervene frequently, stir, reload etc.

Dave bought my analogue Ti 2 years ago. He does like it and he has made more than reasonable use out of it but he still prefers the XL because it just suits his preferred style of vaporizing to come home from work load up a big bowl and sit there for a long time sucking on the whip on the couch without thinking about the next hit, and load etc.

He would never want to give this up in favour of the Ti but I do suspect that the majority of the modern vapourists would actually favour the Ti model these days.

To me, Im not convinced that you wont miss this aspect of the XL. I do definitely think you would enjoy the Ti for its different effects profile and vape signature and style of use etc.

Hence my suggestion of the analogue and keeping the XL.
Actually I just realised you don't even need the ti system this way you just need the heater and necessary components you could even email Sebastien and ask him if he can hook you up a little package with the basics for what you would need, and tell him how much you love his original model he will be pleased to hear this.

Anyway, I hope that helps, good luck bro and please let us know what you decide.

Edit- the new concentrate bowl does not appear to work very effectively for concentrates such as rosin- I tried it myself and it was unsuccessful but it does appear to work quite well for vaporizing essential oils which was where the original concept for the design of this bowl came from.
 
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vitriol

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PPN and Alexis, thanks a lot for your inputs, it's really appreciated. It really gives me a better idea of what to expect.

I really like the option of the analog ti+keeping the xl. It's probably going to be the way I'm going to go.

In any case I'll let you guys know which one I end up getting. Until then here's my favorite setup:


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