Discontinued Ghost MV1

Summer said:

Well, if you are keeping it coupled, but in shipping mode & not handling it, there is no way it can enter sleep mode without a firm depression of the mode button

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My experience is that if u dont seperate the device from the battery in other words if u leave it in ship mode it uses bluetooth . I left it for a few days in ship mode and the battery became depleted. I am guessing this was bluetooth related. Do u understand now?

At first to deal with this issue I separated the battery from device a few millimeters and that certainly solved the battery drain issue. In other words it was something the device was doing even in ship mode that depleted battery probably bluetooth. But sometimes the battery moved and reconnected with the device putting it into ship mode also the uncontrolled and unwanted sliding made me unhappy so I took the battery and put in a separate case so it wouldn't damage the device. I hope this explains what I do clearly.

Just so everyone knows, when putting the vape away, I separate the batt from body by about, what, 1", then I click the pieces back together @ which point the vape is back in ship & bluetooth disengaged. Can't understand unit shifting to reseat batt & battery re-engaging itself from ship to sleep mode.

@guyonthecouch, read something about this on VLF, but don't have time right now to search through volumnous GV CS posts. Maybe @ghostvapesofficial or @stickstones have some sage wisdom on this to spare me from having to do so.

Summer said:

Just so everyone knows, when putting the vape away, I separate the batt from body by about, what, 1", then I click the pieces back together @ which point the vape is back in ship & bluetooth disengaged. Can't understand unit shifting to reseat batt & battery re-engaging itself from ship to sleep mode.

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It does NOT go into SLEEP mode it is in SHIP mode and uses battery

Sorry, don't understand, but it's not important. Mine in ship mode doesn't engage bluetooth. Having more than 1 unit, I 've gone as long as 4 weeks before using units & the batteries still show 3 leds.

Summer said:

Sorry, don't understand, but it's not important. Mine in ship mode doesn't engage bluetooth. Having more than 1 unit, I 've gone as long as 4 weeks before using units & the batteries still show 3 leds.

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Why do u disengage battery if there is no drain?

MonsterWithoutBorders said:

Why do u disengage battery if there is no drain?

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Because there is bluetooth drain in sleep mode.

The point of my initial post is simply to state that you don't have to physically disconnect/separate the battery from tha vape. You just have to break the electrical connection by taking it out of sleep mode & putting it back in shipping mode. Sliding the battery out, then back in accomplishes this.

MonsterWithoutBorders said:

In my experience the MV1 works great when its cold it just takes a lot more battery life. The considerable mass of the MV1 is probably the reason why it takes so much energy when it is cold. In my case 53F/11C
decreased the battery life to a little more than half. It easy to imagine that the power draw when cold is enormous since it heats up a lot of metal in the same amount of time. So the user experience seems to be the same in the cold. Storing the vapes where it is warm has become my new best friend of battery life. The other issue is that bluetooth which requires a disconnected battery to be completely inert. In the connected states it uses more power than I happy with so I now keep the battery and the unit in separate cases (kind of a pain that I hope will change with the new firmware release).

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I hope the battery isn't much worse with colder temperatures. I'll have a spare in case though so I should be fine. Glad to hear the experience is the same!

It would be nice to see Ghost add an option for Bluetooth to sleep if the device was inactive for a few minutes. A couple button presses or powering on the unit then reactivates it.

Ghost is working on firmware ver. 1.5 so maybe they will incorporate a way to turn bluetooth off or I would think more easily just have it turn off when entering sleep mode. I do think that it's gonna have the sequence inversion of the temp. setting before battery check.

Summer said:

Just so everyone knows, when putting the vape away, I separate the batt from body by about, what, 1", then I click the pieces back together @ which point the vape is back in ship & bluetooth disengaged. Can't understand unit shifting to reseat batt & battery re-engaging itself from ship to sleep mode.

@guyonthecouch, read something about this on VLF, but don't have time right now to search through volumnous GV CS posts. Maybe @ghostvapesofficial or @stickstones have some sage wisdom on this to spare me from having to do so.

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Here is some info about the battery that was posted on VL from one of our CS team:

Just some further detail on the topic of battery performance: We have identified an issue where Bluetooth can cause an unexpected drain on the battery when the MV1 is not in use. This will be fixed in the next firmware update coming soon. In the meantime, we recommend that you remove the battery from the unit when not in use and charge the battery between sessions.

A few things to note:
1.) The unit will revert from vape mode to sleep mode after 2 minutes of inactivity
2.) There is no button to power off the unit. The unit will remain on and in sleep mode until you remove the battery or the battery dies.
3.) To completely turn power off the MV1, remove the battery.
4.) Best practice is to charge the battery whenever it is not in use, it will not degrade the battery in any way
5.) Should the battery ever reach critical battery level, we advise that you replenish the battery using the micro-USB.

Nerissa

Since I’m not using my ghost, I just hooked up both batteries (disconnected) to USB.
One has a red light, the other has no light at all. What gives?

I have verified that *both* microUSB cables are working. @ghostvapesofficial ?

@ghostvapesofficial, that's exactly what l'm saying. In sleep mode the battery drains. But the difference is that I'm not physically separating the battery from the vape. I'm just putting it back in shipping/off mode.

@ClearBlueLou, with usb, the red light means charging, & when the light goes out, it's charged.

ClearBlueLou said:

Since I’m not using my ghost, I just hooked up both batteries (disconnected) to USB.
One has a red light, the other has no light at all. What gives?

I have verified that *both* microUSB cables are working. @ghostvapesofficial ?

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Summer said:

[USER=29090]@ClearBlueLou, with usb, the red light means charging, & when the light goes out, it's charged.[/USER]

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@Summer is correct!

Nerissa

@ghostvapesofficial Nerissa,

Slightly Medicated said:

I start on the 2nd red highest flower temp.
I preheat the crucible while it is empty.
I take a ten-second draw while empty once it has come up to temperature.
I load a crucible with my cannabis like normal. (Don't burn yourself its hot!) (Medium grind using a Phoenician grinder)
I preheat again and begin my draw.
I sort of vary the speed of the draw by a little as I hit.
I pulse the fire/trigger/hit button off and on every 5-7 seconds. This keeps the preheat time down to almost instant and keeps it hitting as long as you want.
I give a good 50-70 second draw through it.
I get a huge hit off of it.
I find the abv comes out dark brown and toasted.
Empty the bowl and you can load another and get back to back sessions.

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Summer said:

@Slightly Medicated, as you've only had the vape for 5 days, I'm curious to see if it will hold up with your mode of operation since it wasn't designed to be used that aggressuvely. You might wind up overpowering it to the point of malfunction or burning the heater out. But I guess we'll see in time.

Have you tried filling the crucible from the get-go & doing a no hit preheat?

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guyonthecouch said:

What makes you say it wasn't designed to be used aggressively? I've never heard or seen anything surrounding this and curious to know more.

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Summer said:

@guyonthecouch, read something about this on VLF, but don't have time right now to search through volumnous GV CS posts. Maybe @ghostvapesofficial or @stickstones have some sage wisdom on this to spare me from having to do so.

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Summer said:

@ghostvapesofficial, that's exactly what l'm saying. In sleep mode the battery drains. But the difference is that I'm not physically separating the battery from the vape. I'm just putting it back in shipping/off mode.

@ClearBlueLou, with usb, the red light means charging, & when the light goes out, it's charged.

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ghostvapesofficial said:

@Summer is correct!

Nerissa

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Excellent, thank you both so much!

Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.

Summer said:

Just so everyone knows, when putting the vape away, I separate the batt from body by about, what, 1", then I click the pieces back together @ which point the vape is back in ship & bluetooth disengaged. Can't understand unit shifting to reseat batt & battery re-engaging itself from ship to sleep mode.

@guyonthecouch, read something about this on VLF, but don't have time right now to search through volumnous GV CS posts. Maybe @ghostvapesofficial or @stickstones have some sage wisdom on this to spare me from having to do so.

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It’s like I said... @Slightly Medicated taxes every vape he touches. The fact that he likes a vape says a lot about its strength. I’m dying to see if it holds up. Mine has never failed me, and I’m no slouch, but I’ve never gone more than three cycles on a single hit. And normally, I hit it one cycle at a time. He’s hitting it the whole time, so if he evacuates enough heat, who knows?

stickstones said:

Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.



It’s like I said... @Slightly Medicated taxes every vape he touches. The fact that he likes a vape says a lot about its strength. I’m dying to see if it holds up. Mine has never failed me, and I’m no slouch, but I’ve never gone more than three cycles on a single hit. And normally, I hit it one cycle at a time. He’s hitting it the whole time, so if he evacuates enough heat, who knows?

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Yes if your a manufacturer and you want your vaporizer pushed to the max and beyond then I am your guy.

From my tests, the heater and the algorithm they use to regulate the heat seem to do a pretty good job. Even after super back to back long sessions it is hot... but nothing like other vaporizers I have pushed to the max. Even with varied draw speeds etc the heater seems to not overheat etc. It really keeps up. I think the thermal mass is such that it heats/cools quickly. You don't get a lot of residual/build up heat over time. The crucible cools down quickly and I can handle/empty it in a few seconds. The ABV comes out appropriate for what you would think. I think overall it will hold up pretty well.

I am using the crucibles that arrived with the unit are getting a lot of use. I do wish I had more.

Slightly Medicated said:

Even after super back to back long sessions it is hot ... but nothing like other vaporizers I have pushed to the max. Even with varied draw speeds etc the heater seems to not overheat etc.

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Using it inverted with a rig, the body gets quite hot, but since I only do 1 crucible each session, it hasn't overheated; at least not yet.

Summer said:

Using it inverted with a rig, the body gets quite hot, but since I only do 1 crucible each session, it hasn't overheated; at least not yet.

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Which version are you using? I have the stealth. Not sure if there is any different. When inverting on my rig it does get warmer, but not much more than normal. It also takes longer between bowls (unloading loading etc)so it does kind of cool down some.

Slightly Medicated said:

think the thermal mass is such that it heats/cools quickly.

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This surprises me as I have noted that the device still has some heat long after I have used it. This heat I believe in an early firmware version caused it not to heat up correctly on subsequent use. I compensated for this by taking draws without power to try to get the unit to ambient temperature. This seemed to fix this for me. The current firmware seems to have fixed this issue.

I've been playing around with this thing for a bit and I've found a loading method for it I really like now. I always thought the biggest downside to this vape is the rather large crucible holes that only allow for a coarse grind, so what I've been doing is loading just the bottom of my crucibles with a real coarse grind to act as a screen and filling the rest of the crucible up with a real fine grind. The coarse bud at the bottom keeps the finely ground bud from falling into the unit and the finely ground bud produces a much stronger and potent hit. Really really like the results of doing it like this.

Slightly Medicated said:

Which version are you using? I have the stealth

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All are v. 1.4. Matter-of-fact, based on ur post, I just used the Stealth rig-wise & it didn't get hot; Chrome v.3 got super-hot. And when using it dry, it got super-warm unless outside in cooler weather. It got hot when used outside in summer weather.

Every one says that there have been 2 vape versions; I say "4." (I'm talking the physical vape, here, not just firmware upgrades.) The (my) initial release (v.1) was replaced w/ what I call v.2, which was a noticeable, yet marginal improvement as this batch still exhibited vapor & overheating issues. Then had this unit replaced with v. 3, a precursor to the newest rendition which includes the Stealth. This was a significant improvement. But as I said above, the body got hot.

With this latest version (v.4; & Stealth & non-Stealth models being equal), the performance of my (2) v.4 units has increased expotentially.

Now, if you allow me to do a llitle prophesizing (let me run & get my swami hat on & crystal ball. ), I think that with whatever remaining add'l., future firmware upgrades GV has planned for the MV-1, GV will have accomplished everything they set out to with the MV-1 version. And that everything they learned will roll over into the MV-2 along with other significant enhancements that will make the MV-2 a tour-de-force. Like how the Mighty & the NVFP set the bar in their respective niche categories, the MV-2 will reign king in its category -- which to me is portable, battery-operated, non-510, regulated, convection, quality vapes. (Let me know if I left any tags out. ) (My, Lord, this vape is already so damn good. ). & I think the MV-2 will materialize in late 2nd quarter or early 3rd quarter 2020. *Now, we have to meet up when it is released to see if my prophesizing was correct.

anyone no why im getting flashing red ligts when its warm?thanks

A sign of overheating, but specifically in 510 mod terms it's actually temp protection kicking in & shutting down device before hardware damage.

If you have an issue with flashing lights, I say just open up a warranty ticket straight away on GV website. It can be a # of things causing this -- from user error to vape issue. They'll be able to address this issue efficiently & swiftly*.

*Swiftly being one of a vapers' favorite words. True -- we all what anything to do with vaping gear yesterday. A greedy lot we are. )

Summer said:

If you have an issue with flashing lights, I say just open up a warranty ticket straight away on GV website. It can be a # of things causing this -- from user error to vape issue. They'll be able to address this issue efficiently & swiftly*.

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Really? I get red.lights but when on high and using back to back, is this normal or would you open a ticket? I assumed it was me pushing it .....

@Djsleepy, I would think it should be a rare occurrence unless you know you are taxing the vape, like maybe running flower in concentrate mode. Look how hard @Slightly Medicated is pushing his unit. SM, are you ever experiencing red flashing lights? If so, how often?

Can't hurt to open a ticket & run it by CS. They are the experts on their vape, & that's what they are there for.