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Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

Vaporware

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IMO it would be better to change the hole pattern and make smaller diameter holes in the heat exchanger if more draw resistance is wanted. I feel like a carb cap defeats a lot of the minimal design philosophy and affordability of the WeedEater. I can't help but feel if somebody wants a WeedEater and a carb cap they might as well go for the Showerhead or VROD :2c:

Maybe, but the biggest complaint I’ve seen from people choosing that route is “the cap falls off and I don’t want to have to worry about it”.

If it was solidly attached it wouldn’t really be like another piece, you’d just set it and forget it, even if you like to wave the head around for some reason. :lol:

It should probably still be optional though. Or your option would work, but people would have to settle on a couple of hole sizes.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Maybe, but the biggest complaint I’ve seen from people choosing that route is “the cap falls off and I don’t want to have to worry about it”.

If it was solidly attached it wouldn’t really be like another piece, you’d just set it and forget it, even if you like to wave the head around for some reason. :lol:

It should probably still be optional though. Or your option would work, but people would have to settle on a couple of hole sizes.

I think the trick would be doing enough testing to make sure that it vapes evenly at each of the adjustment points.

Personally I wouldn't mind a FP with a touch more draw restriction (I've mentioned this before) but I'm not sure how evenly it would vape if the holes were adjusted.
 

Vaporware

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I think the trick would be doing enough testing to make sure that it vapes evenly at each of the adjustment points.

Personally I wouldn't mind a FP with a touch more draw restriction (I've mentioned this before) but I'm not sure how evenly it would vape if the holes were adjusted.

That’s a good point if you do it directly on the current holes and basically adjust their size, but if it was like a screw-on carb cap with adjustable hole sizes you’d only restrict air coming into that little chamber.

From there it should go evenly through the holes in the head just like it does when using a carb cap with 1 off-center hole.
 
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Stu

Maconheiro
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I think it would be cool if there was a carb cap that was attached with a hinge, like those fancy schmancy beer steins use.:cool:

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Vaporware

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I think it would be cool if there was a carb cap that was attached with a hinge, like those fancy schmancy beer steins use.:cool:

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I’ve thought about that too, but it has a few disadvantages:

1. Harder to machine (I think, due to the hinge).

2. A bit more fragile with the hinge.

3. Leaves a piece of hot metal flopping around unless there’s also a lock to hold it down.

It does still have its own appeal though, and if they made it work I might like it more than the options I mentioned. :)
 

Likes2vape

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Awesome, good to hear from someone who finds it more effective than separate. We are all different in preferences/brain chemistry/etc so I figured someone would eventually chime in. Thanks dawg. Now to pick your brain. :sherlock:

What's your preferred temps/load sizes of each when doing doubledeckers?
I set my controller to 650 load about half a bowl and take a normal size dab. I finish the bowl/dab in 2-3 hits. I usually stir the weed between hits as the top of the bowl gets pretty roasted. Depending on how dry the weed is I may go down to 640 but never any lower as I want to finish it in 2-3 hits any more than that and it starts tasting bad.

I think it would be cool if there was a carb cap that was attached with a hinge, like those fancy schmancy beer steins use.:cool:

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I’ve used ti dishes that had a flip up carb cap and didn’t really care for it. It was hard to clean, sometimes hung up when you went to flip it up and you’d move the bong or almost knock it over. Plus after awhile it started getting wax in the hinge area from using the dabber to flip the cap up which made it hang up even more. It sounds like a good idea but in real world use it kinda sucked.
 
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EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
If it were down to me, I'd add a threaded disc to the top of the Weedeater with 6 holes in it. It can unscrew for cleaning but otherwise stays put.

From my use of a six hole carpcap on the showerhead, I would say this gives just enough draw restriction to allow in the incoming air to go slow enough to be heated quicker before it gets replaced with cold air, meaning lower temps on the controller but with that higher pressure that carbing brings, the extraction would be just as complete and full.

However, while there is a little draw restriction to help heat the air, the draw still feels wide open and free flowing.
 

Chris_CH

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I love both these ideas. I feel like they would both get as scorching hot as the head itself tho. How would you manage that?


I think it would be cool if there was a carb cap that was attached with a hinge, like those fancy schmancy beer steins use.:cool:

GS6106S_Glass_Stein_with_Pointed_Pewter_Lid_wB_RS_SM__63967.1448471719.1280.1280.jpg


:peace:

If it were down to me, I'd add a threaded disc to the top of the Weedeater with 6 holes in it. It can unscrew for cleaning but otherwise stays put.

From my use of a six hole carpcap on the showerhead, I would say this gives just enough draw restriction to allow in the incoming air to go slow enough to be heated quicker before it gets replaced with cold air, meaning lower temps on the controller but with that higher pressure that carbing brings, the extraction would be just as complete and full.

However, while there is a little draw restriction to help heat the air, the draw still feels wide open and free flowing.
 

jardri

Vapor Dreams
Hello gentlemen i seek for your advice!

Recently had a child and my wife doesnt let me have the Flowerpot all the time in the living room anymore. I have the two piece wooden base and a mobius matrix bong. Would love to find some type of case that lets me keep everything assembled inside so I just have to plug it in and hit it and then store it while hot. All the cases Newvape sells come with foam which would make my idea impossible. I dont need foam to keep everything in place just enough space and some heat resistant material. Searching Amazon for something fitting right now but there are like 25000 different references. Could any of you help me?

Thanks in advance!
 

EmDeemo

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I love both these ideas. I feel like they would both get as scorching hot as the head itself tho. How would you manage that?

Oh yeah, my idea would indeed be as hot as the head itself.

I was initially going to post "I have no idea what you're all trying to achieve here but..." and I forgot that bit :)

The discussion just reminded me of my findings with the Showerhead and how the six hole carb cap effected the flower extraction and how it seemed to quite largely increase the effieciency of the SH and therefore should do with the WE.

I highly recommend giving it a go in house and testing the results yourselves.
 

Baron23

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I think it would be cool if there was a carb cap that was attached with a hinge, like those fancy schmancy beer steins use.:cool:

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Stu - that's exactly what I was thinking!! :tup::clap:

While I agree that it would get hot, and possibly gunked up by reclaim, I think the point would be to either just leave it raised or lowered depending on what you want on that particular bowl.

But not like a dab rig where you will drop the cap each time...more like a two position deal...either cap down or up.

Screw on would def get reclaimed up also.

Quite honestly, I don't have any real issues in handling a carb cap with my SH...and I'm a klutz.
 

Vaporware

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I love both these ideas. I feel like they would both get as scorching hot as the head itself tho. How would you manage that?

The way @emmdeemo and I were taking about it, it wouldn’t have to come off while in use as long as the airflow could be fully opened with it on.

If you wanted it to come off while hot though, if you could get an insulated handle that could handle being left on it, you could set a stop at one point so it would spin freely to that point and then start to unscrew the cap.

There is still the problem of unscrewing the handle while trying to unscrew the cap, but I think there are ways to deal with that.

The cap and the handle could be threaded in opposite directions which should help, but putting a pin or other lock on it would be more effective.

Putting the handle on the side would also deal with that, but it would be more difficult to unscrew the cap.

Maybe putting the handle at an angle that kept within about the same radius as the head? That should reduce or eliminate the need to lock it in place. :)

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Stu - that's exactly what I was thinking!! :tup::clap:

While I agree that it would get hot, and possibly gunked up by reclaim, I think the point would be to either just leave it raised or lowered depending on what you want on that particular bowl.

But not like a dab rig where you will drop the cap each time...more like a two position deal...either cap down or up.

Screw on would def get reclaimed up also.

Quite honestly, I don't have any real issues in handling a carb cap with my SH...and I'm a klutz.

We’re mostly talking about this as basically an airflow restriction system for the WeedEater head, and at least in that situation there shouldn’t be a reclaim issue. :)
 

TheFatBastard

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Need one of these cool scoops.... any idea where can I get one within Europe / UK so not having to overpay for shipping?
 
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EmDeemo

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Stu - that's exactly what I was thinking!! :tup::clap:

While I agree that it would get hot, and possibly gunked up by reclaim, I think the point would be to either just leave it raised or lowered depending on what you want on that particular bowl.

But not like a dab rig where you will drop the cap each time...more like a two position deal...either cap down or up.

Screw on would def get reclaimed up also.

Quite honestly, I don't have any real issues in handling a carb cap with my SH...and I'm a klutz.

This is partly why I'd just make the 'cap' permanent. Shove six holes in it and lower temps on the controller.

My suggestions are more about making the WE more efficient than anything to do with clumsy carb cappers and heat danger.

The way @emmdeemo and I were taking about it, it wouldn’t have to come off while in use as long as the airflow could be fully opened with it on.

If you wanted it to come off while hot though, if you could get an insulated handle that could handle being left on it, you could set a stop at one point so it would spin freely to that point and then start to unscrew the cap.

There is still the problem of unscrewing the handle while trying to unscrew the cap, but I think there are ways to deal with that.

The cap and the handle could be threaded in opposite directions which should help, but putting a pin or other lock on it would be more effective.

Putting the handle on the side would also deal with that, but it would be more difficult to unscrew the cap.

Maybe putting the handle at an angle that kept within about the same radius as the head? That should reduce or eliminate the need to lock it in place. :)

Edit:


We’re mostly talking about this as basically an airflow restriction system for the WeedEater head, and at least in that situation there shouldn’t be a reclaim issue. :)

A cap that drops INTO the WE top probably wouldnt even need to be properly screwed in, just a light weight simple locking system in some way, or just good old gravity.

Then all one needs is a little hooked device to pluck the 'cap' out.
 
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Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
I love both these ideas. I feel like they would both get as scorching hot as the head itself tho. How would you manage that?
A flick of the wrist could probably do the trick to change the cap from on/off maybe? :shrug: A piece of insulation like used in the bottom of the de-bowling spike would probably help keep the temp manageable as well. It works well in my imagination, but my imagination also thinks I'm handsome and that chicks dig me. :ugh:

:peace:
 

pxl_jockey

Just a dude
Hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend or at least able to spend quality time with your Flowerpot!

Hey @NewVape710 & @newvape918 Happy Monday morning! I have a question about the exciting new Weedeater: would a 20mm coil with a 15.8mm height work? Is there a maximum (or minimum) height requirement for the coil to be used with the Weedeater?

Also, very important: when are the dabber caps going to be offered on the site? Or are they already for sale & I just missed their location? Either way, please help me get a couple of these little muthers soon!

Thanks for making the Weedeater a reality, even though I have a VRod & thus no real need, I like it’s lines & rugged looks enough that I’m sure to have one sooner than later. As one of the folks that kept bringing this idea of a trough-less ShowerHead up, it would be rude not to purchase one. It’s so fucking cool, to see various ideas pitched and batted around, finessed by the realities of materials and physics & finally tweaked behind the scenes... then out of nowhere: BLAM - there’s Edwyn with the big reveal! It’s beyond thrilling to witness this type of collaboration. You just don’t see it happen like this. NewVape is different.
 

Vaporware

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I’m not sure that would help with the bowl with a screen in place, which is what I really need a good brush for, but it might be good for deep cleaning for the few who get a lot of buildup. :)

If anyone finds other good uses for it, let us know!
 

EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
I’m not sure that would help with the bowl with a screen in place, which is what I really need a good brush for, but it might be good for deep cleaning for the few who get a lot of buildup. :)

If anyone finds other good uses for it, let us know!

I think I'd find it really useful for my daily SiC dish clean. I get thru a lot of cotton buds/Q-Tips and that needs to stop :)
 
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