The Firefly 2 vaporizer

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F-UCTD

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The firefly2 seems made for concentrates and since you don't need as much hits from wax to get the same effect as flower the battery isn't too bad. Concentrate pads become full of reclaim however, so swapping out regularly is a must. I have DTV3 and a bottom airflow Sai and I prefer my Firefly 2 over both.
 
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That is terrible. I live in the cold so it’s important to have a strong battery.

I love my Mighty. However, I’m looking for something a bit more portable and I’d like on-demand vape versus a session.


Sorry for the delay, don't get here every day. In my view the FF2 is the best portable for concentrates use. The taste is stellar, the reclaim on the lid gets beautifully purified and concentrated, and it is so easy to clean. I use mine daily and it's an integral part of my vaping life.


I keep my FF2 on the charger all the time

Me too. On another forum I did a statistical accounting, but to cut to the findings, at 68 degree room temp, I got 21 full draws per battery x 2 batteries = 42 full draws. Another person was inspired to replicate my work and came up with similar numbers (differences would not be statistically significant).
 

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Does anyone know any deals or cheaper ways to order replacement batteries? Mine are almost 3 years old now and are definitely having some issues. But buying them from Firefly it would be $30 each plus ~$10 shipping. $70 just to replace my 2 batteries is a bit of a tough pill to swallow.

I've only used the one battery in the year I've had mine. I've never had a reason to use the extra one yet. I was told I should swap them, just to not let the unused battery get too drained too long? Any truth to this?

Almost a moot point for me, my FF2 is a daily driver desktop essentially. This is what makes vape psychology and economics utterly fascinating to me. Why do some love a device and others hate it? I LOVE my FF2. I mean I just love it. If I lost it I would buy another immediately. Yet, some think it and the company akin to a pox on humanity - lol.
 

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I've only used the one battery in the year I've had mine. I've never had a reason to use the extra one yet. I was told I should swap them, just to not let the unused battery get too drained too long? Any truth to this?

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

The more you let a Li-ion battery discharge, the less recharge cycles it can take. The battery will discharge on its own, without use, just with time. (There are lots of charts. Including one that gives the discharge rate at different temperatures from a fully charged battery.)
 

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LabPong

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What do you guys use for concentrate pads....cant find any stock ones for sale.

Do other vapes use close to the same size steel pad as the FF2?

Wish I could also find one of those gray zebra wood lids.
 
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I really would like a FF2 but the FF3 should be release anytime now. I’m probably going to hold out. Hopefully they improved on the shortcomings of the FF2.
 
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F-UCTD

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Anyone else notice any difference with their Firefly 2? I just received a software update and I can swear it improved the draw restriction, but maybe I'm imagining things.
 
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What do you guys use for concentrate pads....cant find any stock ones for sale.

Do other vapes use close to the same size steel pad as the FF2?
Wish I could also find one of those gray zebra wood lids.

Yes. Get the S&B "dosing capsule" "drip pads" aka "liquid pads" (has to be the 13mm ones for the dosing capsules themselves, not just the bowls of the mighty/crafty.
 
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LabPong

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Yes. Get the S&B "dosing capsule" "drip pads" aka "liquid pads" (has to be the 13mm ones for the dosing capsules themselves, not just the bowls of the mighty/crafty.

Are the S&B pads the same exact size as the FF2 ones? 1mm less would work fine too.
 
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Jill NYC

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Are the S&B pads the same exact size as the FF2 ones? 1mm less would work fine too.
No, they aren’t.

Here are a couple of pics:




Edit: I just realized, my Crafty pads are for the oven, not the capsules. I didn’t realize there was more than one size. So, it may be the same size, but prob not the same width.
 
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Almost a moot point for me, my FF2 is a daily driver desktop essentially. This is what makes vape psychology and economics utterly fascinating to me. Why do some love a device and others hate it? I LOVE my FF2. I mean I just love it. If I lost it I would buy another immediately. Yet, some think it and the company akin to a pox on humanity - lol.

I have enjoyed my ff2 very much. The thing I don't like is the death of both batteries after 6 months (won't hold a charge). That would be about $120 a year for batteries. I have been unable to get new batteries for a few months now. I hope this isn't a sign of the times for things coming from China.
 
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I know there's a FF2 Plus or FF3 coming soon with better airflow design (less restriction) but I'm not sure when. I've had some interaction with Firefly with the screens I was experimenting with (different hole sizes / patterns). Firefly got a few samples of what I made as they kindly reached out. As a result I'll be getting a production version of the new Firefly but I've no idea when. Something is coming and it'll be better than the FF2 no dates other than 'soon'.
 

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Edit: I just realized, my Crafty pads are for the oven, not the capsules. I didn’t realize there was more than one size. So, it may be the same size, but prob not the same width.

Yes, it MUST be the S&B dosing capsule pads... NOT the regular device pads. They are the proper 13m in diameter but a bit thicker in height. It works fine. Just tinkering, I used my rosin press to skinny one up a bit and noticed no difference in taste or performance.


I have enjoyed my ff2 very much. The thing I don't like is the death of both batteries after 6 months (won't hold a charge). That would be about $120 a year for batteries. I have been unable to get new batteries for a few months now.

Yeah, me too. I love mine. I have not had the battery problems, and actually have the other OEM battery in its box never used. But I use mine 80% as a desktop.
I was told I should juice up the other battery once and a while, but I never have.
 
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I agree 100%.
I like to lurk for a few weeks when I join a new forum, so this post also represents me leaving my cave:)

I love my FF2 as well, but I don't use it within its weaknesses but its strengths. I bought well after its introduction, and at a nice discount, so most of the hype escaped me. To this day it is my most used vape. It sits in its cradle on my desk right in front of me, ALWAYS clean, loaded, and ready, and as @F-UCTD instructed with the load touching the glass peekhole. I have never even used the other battery as I've never needed it. By many metrics, my FF2 is my favorite desktop. LOL

Speaking of loads, as you mentioned, it just requires a COARSE grind. So many ppl seem to over-grind. A coarse grind is slightly more than waving the grinder across the flower. I stopped using a grinder entirely and now mostly just use fingers and a small pair of scissors depending on strain.

Something else to consider, and so many ppl I know have this wrong. The airflow is NOT in the direction of "into" the bowl, but "out of" it. The airflow travels towards the glass "peephole" not into the bowl. The little holes in the bowl should not get clogged if you (1) brush out the bowl with new every load (2) do not overgrind (3) don't cram rosin into the holes -- use the concentrate pad. (if they do get clogged, just do a dry run on concentrates mode and it self-cleans".

ALSO, for those who believe there is not enough airflow (too restricted), take off your mouthpiece and locate the tiny stainless steel micro-screen and gently remove it. It doubles air throughput I suspect -- at least a 50% increase. The cost which in my experience is near zero if you grind right, is an occasional micro-partical that may make its way through the airpath. This has happened once to me out of hundreds of draws.

But yes, I don't want to in any way "gaslight" those who struggle with the FF2. (Never understood why folks get upset when another doesn't like something they like?). It is NOT an "easy vape". Regardless, to me it is like a Cat vs a Dog. They each are capable of loving you, but if you want loved by a cat, it is totally on their terms. There will be times when you want "love" and it has nothing for you. This is like the FireFly 2 for me. The best, most tasty, most magnificent "god-hits" I've ever taken were on that little "coffin" looking thing, that is so statistically temperamental.... it insists on things being ideal, humidity, technique, planetary alignment, etc. But I do love it and am thankful for it. If I lost it, I would buy another one. And it just shines for concentrates. This is a high-performance sports car; it will NOT be as reliable as a Toyota. In my view it is not for everyone and there are large categories of personalities who will find this vape a total turn off.

I find this discussion very helpful. I've had a FF2 for about 2 weeks now and have been in touch with CS by email a couple of times. I understand how people who are on the go would lose patience with this. I have the time to experiment and I think I'm getting the hang of it. I'm having the battery problem also, it seems one of them in particular doesn't hold a charge long. I'm lucky if I get through one bowl without the flashing red light. Then when I check it on the app it shows the battery is like 80%. But, if I put it on the charger, it DOES take it probably at least 25 min. before it goes solid blue, which indicates to me that it did need charging.

Also, I wanted to ask if anyone knows this. Is there any other bad effect from taking the screen off of the mouthpiece other than risking getting a bit of matter in your mouth or windpipe? I mean, does it set off the calibration or something...because it sure makes a difference in the draw. Much better airflow without the screen. Mine came out while I was trying to clean the mouthpiece and I thought I'd try it.
 
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@LegalAlien I was under the impression that the flashing red light means the unit is over heating, I wasn't aware it's also low battery warning.
 
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deadlytoaster

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I see nothing on Fcc.io about a FireFly 3 yet, unless the FF3 won't have Bluetooth or wireless enabled. Checking the databases will sometimes give you a sneak peak on unreleased devices of all sorts ;)
 
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Thanks for responding to my post.

On the website for firefly2 under FAQ is states: "Once you start to notice that the performance of battery #1 is less than you desire because it's blinking red more frequently and just not lasting as long as it used to, you can pop in battery #2 an experience like-new performance. firefly.com support page it states: "

Also states: "If Firefly gets too hot, the firmware will shut off the heat source." In that part it does not mention anything about it blinking red when overheating.

Customer service wants me to send in the unit. I probably ought to do it in case there is something wrong with the unit. They said that my unit "is authentic" when they checked the serial number. At first I was concerned about it being a "knock off" for two reasons: 1) There were numerous websites online that said it cost $329 and they were out of stock.. I got it off of e-bay for $260 and it was in stock. Then, when the battery fully charged I didn't get anywhere near 5-6 bowls before the red light began blinking. 2) I read online to beware of counterfeit units being sold on e-bay. The first thing I did was to get the serial number off of the unit and check it.
 
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Brewervapesalot

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Honestly dying for a FF3 to come out! The 2 was good ni so many ways but now a bit outdated (battery life, draw resistance).

Please FireFly! Do us a solid! :D

Totally agree. Best flavor vape around IMO. But draw resistance needs to be light years less. Loved the easy wipe and clean. But bigger non-clogable holes!

Also what is wrong with standard batteries? Seriously. They're cheap and replaceable and work so any sort comings just don't over come any of that.
 
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