Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

YaMon said:

Isn’t the same thing accomplished with a carb cap? I cannot imagine trying to drill smaller holes through titanium, even with a liquid cooled/lubricated CNC bit it will be at a minimum problematic which just increases cost. I’m totally cool with my ShowerHead as is. While it has a dish that goes unused, if I happen to come into some concentrate I can have a go at twaxing.. and if I like that enough I can order a VRod. I’m no machinist, but I cannot see a compelling reason to retool the product. If they do the only change I would really care to see are wrench flats so it is easier to separate the post and nut without creating wrench marks and scratches.

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IMO the flower only version ideally would not require a carb cap.

I think the most appealing thing about a flower only setup is how simple it would be, not that the FP is too complicated for us, but I think there is a decent sized audience who is intimidated by the enail controller and huge option of parts. Plus a flower only version would be a bit more compact and less intimidating (potentially 16mm powered even) which is great for a huge range of smaller pipes.

Plus we all know the Flowerpot is a beast, even the "flower model" would still be fully capable of vaporizing a full range of concentrates and extracts, just not directly through conduction.

I'm just stoned rambling at this point haha, but around last December I had this vision of a ceramic Flowerpot (I called it Stoneware lol) paired with the glass bowl, and a milled heater stand for that whole industrial penthouse loft mix of organic materials look. Just a super simple vaporizer through and through, but with a very clean build. I've been checking the Ditanium thread and I think that simplicity is what many find appealing.

I have a few more ideas at improving the usability with a few PID controller modifications. Like imagine if it just moved in 5 degree increments? Wouldn't that make things so easy to dial in?

invertedisdead said:

IMO the flower only version ideally would not require a carb cap.

I think the most appealing thing about a flower only setup is how simple it would be, not that the FP is too complicated for us, but I think there is a decent sized audience who is intimidated by the enail controller and huge option of parts. Plus a flower only version would be a bit more compact and less intimidating (potentially 16mm powered even) which is great for a huge range of smaller pipes.

Plus we all know the Flowerpot is a beast, even the "flower model" would still be fully capable of vaporizing a full range of concentrates and extracts, just not directly through conduction.

I'm just stoned rambling at this point haha, but around last December I had this vision of a ceramic Flowerpot (I called it Stoneware lol) paired with the glass bowl, and a milled heater stand for that whole industrial penthouse loft mix of organic materials look. Just a super simple vaporizer through and through, but with a very clean build. I've been checking the Ditanium thread and I think that simplicity is what many find appealing.

I have a few more ideas at improving the usability with a few PID controller modifications. Like imagine if it just moved in 5 degree increments? Wouldn't that make things so easy to dial in?

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Agreed about a flower only model not needing a carb cap. That's one main reason I like the SH for flower. Temp set to 737 and prepare for some high altitude cruising!

These past few months my Vrod has been put away. I've been using the SH flower and strictly using my opaque banger for my concentrates.

invertedisdead said:

IMO the flower only version ideally would not require a carb cap.

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I don’t find a need for a carb cap either. My post was in response to @Taz4101 who was looking for smaller holes through the heat sink for more restriction. As always I’m cruising at 747 with no worries.

YaMon said:

I don’t find a need for a carb cap either. My post was in response to @Taz4101 who was looking for smaller holes through the heat sink for more restriction. As always I’m cruising at 747 with no worries.

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I've only had it for less than 24 hours but I've noticed a few things. If I crank the showerhead without the carb cap, the level of vapor depends on a slow, deliberate draw to modulate the airflow through the bowl. With the carb, increasing my draw increases the level of vapor, which more closely mimics the sensation of smoking through a bong.

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Another plus of the carb cap I'm noticing is the obvious lower temperatures. My girlfriend is sensitive and can notice a big difference between the 675 I use for the carb cap and the 737 I was trying without it. Less of a throat hit sensation with the same apparent cloudiness in the glass.

I think if NewVape were going to do a flower only device, the carb should be built in and potentially adjustable (potentially threading open and closed?). Having a separate cap is definitely more clumsy and dangerous. I've hat the hot cap fall off my wand and almost melt the carpet already (my girlfriend is kind of clumsy, sorry if she finds this).

jonpanic said:

I've only had it for less than 24 hours but I've noticed a few things. If I crank the showerhead without the carb cap, the level of vapor depends on a slow, deliberate draw to modulate the airflow through the bowl. With the carb, increasing my draw increases the level of vapor, which more closely mimics the sensation of smoking through a bong.

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Another plus of the carb cap I'm noticing is the obvious lower temperatures. My girlfriend is sensitive and can notice a big difference between the 675 I use for the carb cap and the 737 I was trying without it. Less of a throat hit sensation with the same apparent cloudiness in the glass.

I think if NewVape were going to do a flower only device, the carb should be built in and potentially adjustable (potentially threading open and closed?). Having a separate cap is definitely more clumsy and dangerous. I've hat the hot cap fall off my wand and almost melt the carpet already (my girlfriend is kind of clumsy, sorry if she finds this).

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While I am sensitive to harsh hot air and dense hits, I do not find this with the FlowerPot.. unless I get too medicated and inadvertently misguage the size of my draw Out of all my vapes when running high temps the FlowerPot gives me the least issues. Further, I prefer the quick full spectrum and full extraction from flower that occurs at these temps with a very fine grind.

YaMon said:

While I am sensitive to harsh hot air and dense hits, I do not find this with the FlowerPot.. unless I get too medicated and inadvertently misguage the size of my draw Out of all my vapes when running high temps the FlowerPot gives me the least issues. Further, I prefer the quick full spectrum and full extraction from flower that occurs at these temps with a very fine grind.

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Fair enough. Smoothness is very subjective and has a lot of variables. I'd still like an adjustable carb that can't fall off though

jonpanic said:

I've only had it for less than 24 hours but I've noticed a few things. If I crank the showerhead without the carb cap, the level of vapor depends on a slow, deliberate draw to modulate the airflow through the bowl. With the carb, increasing my draw increases the level of vapor, which more closely mimics the sensation of smoking through a bong.

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See I feel the uncapped hit more closely mimics smoking a bong load, as you similarly have to control the airflow yourself, just like ripping the old 3 ft zong

Yes Mon! I would break this thing the first time I cleaned it..

invertedisdead said:

See I feel the uncapped hit more closely mimics smoking a bong load, as you similarly have to control the airflow yourself, just like ripping the old 3 ft zong

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What temp do you typically run without a cap?

jonpanic said:

What temp do you typically run without a cap?

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700 is a good starting point, though I used to go as high as 777 (high rollers ) water pipe size will affect this choice as well.
It takes a tiny bit of practice to figure out the draw for these higher temp uncapped hits, but once mastered you can crush a whole bowl in one very mighty rip! I like to do a ramping inhale, increasing the speed of my draw as the tube milks. I find the combination of high temp + ramping inhale allows for massive extraction in seconds, while also avoiding charred, over roasted flavors.

jonpanic said:

I've only had it for less than 24 hours but I've noticed a few things. If I crank the showerhead without the carb cap, the level of vapor depends on a slow, deliberate draw to modulate the airflow through the bowl. With the carb, increasing my draw increases the level of vapor, which more closely mimics the sensation of smoking through a bong.

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Another plus of the carb cap I'm noticing is the obvious lower temperatures. My girlfriend is sensitive and can notice a big difference between the 675 I use for the carb cap and the 737 I was trying without it. Less of a throat hit sensation with the same apparent cloudiness in the glass.

I think if NewVape were going to do a flower only device, the carb should be built in and potentially adjustable (potentially threading open and closed?). Having a separate cap is definitely more clumsy and dangerous. I've hat the hot cap fall off my wand and almost melt the carpet already (my girlfriend is kind of clumsy, sorry if she finds this).

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try out a super high temp like 777 with a fast draw speed. you will get alot of vapor. I find this is the closest I can get to making it feel like a combustion rip. be careful though. draw slow and it will be a combustion rip.

I’ve also found a fast extraction at something like 750 or 777 followed by more fresh air to be smoother than a slowly drawn out extraction with the controller turned down 100 degrees or more.

It’s possible that this is just because I load more at lower temps, or that at lower temps I leave less room in my lungs for fresh air, but with what looks to me like a similar amount of vapor that’s been my perception.

NewVape710 said:

We have a removable 3" dia q-tip holder in the works for the grinder spot.

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YES!

disGRUNTled said:

Enjoying a Milkshake IPA, vaping kief str8 out of the grinder in the FP showerhead.

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I missed your posts on this thread mayne

Hello Guys!

Yes it's me again, with the same problem but now I have more Information so I'm only missing a few pieces to Hopefully solve my Puzzle!
My Puzzle is finding a good Battery thst will work with the FlowerPot (with the 100w Coil) and would be available to pretty much everyone.

Because my dilemma is that if I want to get the same Battery NV sells (or another rebrand) which I have found out the specs for the AC Outlet Output: 110v/60hz/85w (100w Max.)
That battery isn't available in Canada...at least not from some place I'd trust...

So I'm basically shopping for a Battery with an AC Outlet with an Output of around 110v/60hz/>85w (Closest to 100w the Better!)

If someone would be nice enough to give me the Power Intake of the NewVape PID with a 100w Coil or any of the other rebrands of this PID, that would be Spoon Appreciated...and if that makes a difference I never go higher than 710°F.

This is pretty much the only number I'm missing to be able to tell if a certain Battery Pack is going to work, or rather, if the AC Outlet's Output will be strong enough...

Thanks a bunch!
P.S: Who would be interested in me starting a Thread about My Quest for a Battery to Power my FlowerPot...with Specifications of Different PID's and different Batteries with an AC Outlet so you can see which Battery you could get that would work.

Of course, if you are in the USA I think you shoukd probably order from NewVape to be sure and also get the Chassis...

Cheers,
SunnyHours.

Here's my new case for my flowerpot. I found this box at Michael's and it's a perfect fit for my controller. I made some square cutouts, got longer hardware, and built the controller into the box and also the stand. I can wrap the coil up and power cord up and stash them away inside or if I want to take it somewhere.

Nice job @jonpanic - I might put a couple of smaller sections in there for other parts, but it seems like it should work well.

Just so you know though, wherever you’re posting images (imgur?) is not allowing this forum to display their images. We can get around it by hitting reply and looking in the reply box and then deleting it, or desktop users can install a plugin to get around it, but it’s a lot easier if we use something else. I think imgbb isn’t one that people have been liking lately.

Also, the mods don’t like double posts; if it hasn’t been too long to edit your last post, you can just add to it. If I need to quote someone in that situation I just hit reply, cut the text, edit the last message and paste it in.

Anyway, it’s nice to see some innovation in the FlowerPot case department! If you end up doing more with it, I’m sure a lot of us would like to see it.

Thanks for the heads up regarding the double post and imgur. I'll host the images elsewhere and edit my previous post.

jonpanic said:

Here's my new case for my flowerpot. I found this box at Michael's and it's a perfect fit for my controller. I made some square cutouts, got longer hardware, and built the controller into the box and also the stand. I can wrap the coil up and power cord up and stash them away inside or if I want to take it somewhere.

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This is awesome ! I need something like this. Makes the set up more civilized and portable. Flower pot docking station.
Aka “ The Garden ”

Easywider said:

This is awesome ! I need something like this. Makes the set up more civilized and portable. Flower pot docking station. Aka “ The Garden ”

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Thanks!

This is the box I used:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00114LPC6/ref=twister_B00IRDBHQI?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

It's basswood though, so it's super soft. I slathered it in polyurethane to keep it front denting, but it cuts and drills really easy.

I might look around for a better option eventually. Opening up the control was enlightening. Everything is off the shelf (just a PID controller, input jack, XLR jack, and pushbutton), it would be very easy make your own controller and encase it however you'd like. I had to do a little modification to my wiring to make it easy to reassemble inside the wooden box.

Edit: Also, I am going to add a silicone under the heat post so I can put down hot pieces without damaging the wood.

When 1 2 3 Flowerpots just ain't enough....

Stu said:

When 1 2 3 Flowerpots just ain't enough....

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Holy mother of all Flowerpots.... freakin awesome.
Is that at Champs??
Lucky bast#ards

Wow there's some cool innovation going on here today. #flowerpower

This is pretty awesome! loving it!

jonpanic said:

Here's my new case for my flowerpot. I found this box at Michael's and it's a perfect fit for my controller. I made some square cutouts, got longer hardware, and built the controller into the box and also the stand. I can wrap the coil up and power cord up and stash them away inside or if I want to take it somewhere.

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But this is ridiculous. In the most loving way possible lol

Stu said:

When 1 2 3 Flowerpots just ain't enough....

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Stu said:

When 1 2 3 Flowerpots just ain't enough....

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I fucking love this