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caliganja420

Well-Known Member
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After every chamber my abv still looks like this (light brown/green)
I know its full convection and wont get quite as dark as conduction. Is this normal?
I start at 395 and go up until 435 (4-5 bags)
Did i fully extract everything from my material? I dont use the abv so i think there is a lot of stuff left in it.
I just fill the bottom of the screen around .25
I get nicely medicated i will admit, heavy long lasting high (which is what i am after)
 

ejackyou

Hamilton
...Hate to break it to you but if it takes you 10 temp stepped bags to reach a 2, your threshold tolerance is higher than every "stoner" in this thread. For comparison I get pretty strong medicinal effects off a single moderate temp bag at 5 or 6 on a Classic.[/QUOTE


In my opinion, some 'Experience' people are out of touch, and I'm not about to waste
My time, on someone who thrives on confrontation.
It's not uncommon for someone who is 'experienced' to continue doing something wrong
over and over again.
I think it was Einstein who said insanity was someone doing something the Same Over
and Over again, expecting a different result. :bang:
But if it's right for you, it's right!
And again, a vast majority can hold a common Opinion, but that does't make it Truth :hmm:

Well.........could you try and dumb it down for the intellectually challenged such as myself?
You seem to hold cannabis users in contempt or in a negative light or am I misunderstanding you?

I guess if your a 'stoner':rockon:
Who tries to justify, and promote their methods to those just introducing themselves to use
of Cannabis, I guess Your right.
The 'stoner mentality':rockon: is on it's way out, as soon as today's New Users, get a chance at the Pulpit!:shrug:
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Lol this dude is such a troll, he can never even explain a single word of his imaginary stance, just another weak assed attempt at dissing EXPERIENCED (yeah I said it) members of the forum.

Hope you enjoy your Volcano half as much as I enjoyed mine, a decade ago :wave:

Glad you're just finding cannabis now that your government says its okay, it's honestly a good thing you didn't possess the foresight to try natural medicine any sooner, you might have turned into a total stoner junkie!
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
What is the optimal temperature?

IMO, nobody can accurately answer that question for you.

I started running at 365 and stepping up to 385...the stepping up to 420 or so.

Now, I max out the temp, pull big and very thick bag or two, and I'm done.

I med for pain and sedation at night and often like my sessions to be very quick and highly effective.

Is it harsh...well, yeah. But I actually think harshness is more a factor of the plant products we are inhaling and not the temp. And to me, harshness varies quite a bit strain to strain.

You take a 'Cano bag filled with the vape's temp set to 446 and; 1) the air going into the bag is NOT 446. That's the temp of the heater element/heat sink that's in there and IMO there is no way that ambient air is getting fully heated to 446 F as it passes....what...5" through the heat sink?; 2) set the bag aside for one minute....its going to be cooler. Is it less harsh....I don't think so. Not if its one of my very thick milk bags.

Best of luck....experiment. You will find what it is that you like and you may well find, as I have, that your tastes and desires evolve and change over time as well.

...Hate to break it to you but if it takes you 10 temp stepped bags to reach a 2, your threshold tolerance is higher than every "stoner" in this thread. For comparison I get pretty strong medicinal effects off a single moderate temp bag at 5 or 6 on a Classic.


Did you see what he did....stepping 10 bags up starting at 255F!! And .12 g of flower?

I would get nothing useful out of a 255F bag and I wouldn't ever get more that one bag (at least a bag that I found worthwhile) out of .12g in a 'Cano.

On the subject of stoned vs medicinal....not really a topic I care to delve into very much. Live and let live.

I will say, however, that "medicated" varies VERY widely across MMJ users based on the condition they are treating, their tolerance, and even to an extent their individual brain as we are all a bit different.

I know folks who say that they effectively micro-dose with .005 g (and yes, that's not a typo) while I wouldn't even waste my time.

Again, live and let live and to each their own.

Cheers
 
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ejackyou

Hamilton
Huh?
I do not understand your response............are you saying people new to cannabis usage are going to educate the people who produce the cannabis about the proper way to use cannabis..............did I get this correct?
No!
 
ejackyou,
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Magma_Industries

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Harsh because with bags you can inhale a lot of dry vapor at once or harsh because vapor is still hot?

Is it possible to use/couple the mouthpiece of easy valve and a 14 or 18 female joint natively, without adapters? The whole idea to try bags was to get rid of glass but maybe I am wrong?

How much full load is? 0,5 or more?

Thank you
Dryness and Heat, combined, make the vapor a bit harsh on the throat and lungs. Added water relieves this.
Harsh due to dryness and volume never heat and I would guess roughly a half to a gram.......not sure but it appears to be about 14MM from looking at it.
It's not a standard joint size. We developed custom tapered joints to specifically fit the Easy Valve.
I agree clean glass taste the best but right after first hit or first bowl, water inside bubbler become so stinky so fast I prefer smell from a 1 month old solo stem than from my half day old orbiter water

@Stu magma looks interesting but same downside as above, i am trying to get rid of water in vaporpath

Will report after some use
Let us know if you have any questions and/or are interested in what water in your vapor path does, we'd be happy to answer as we've had lots of experience in the last couple years developing the Volcano bubblers.

Cheers!
 

MinnBobber

Well-Known Member
Dryness and Heat, combined, make the vapor a bit harsh on the throat and lungs. Added water relieves this.
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Dryness is very powerful and water helps immensely to add some moisture!!!
Volcano bags are not even hot, but they are very very dry vapor.
Moisturizing vapor makes it very agreeable on your throat and lungs.

Take a washcloth drenched with hot water and hold it over mouth and nose, inhale deeply......
ahhhhhhhm a refreshing MOIST stream of air.

Great idea Magma! @Magma_Industries

On my unofficial vapor smoothness, how tolerable is the vapor scale of 1-10 , plus and minus:
- Combusting : Minus 10
- Most conduction or poorer designed vapes Minus 4 to minus 2
- Most convection vapes Minus 2 to plus 3
- Quality vape with water bubbler Zero to plus 4
- Quality vape with hot tap water in it Plus 2 to plus 7

Plus marks are where actually above neutral, you'd do this vapor even if it had no THC/CBD/etc
That warm moist air can feel very refreshing, even with a heavy load of goodies :)
 

Magma_Industries

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
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Dryness is very powerful and water helps immensely to add some moisture!!!
Volcano bags are not even hot, but they are very very dry vapor.
Moisturizing vapor makes it very agreeable on your throat and lungs.

Take a washcloth drenched with hot water and hold it over mouth and nose, inhale deeply......
ahhhhhhhm a refreshing MOIST stream of air.

Great idea Magma! @Magma_Industries

On my unofficial vapor smoothness, how tolerable is the vapor scale of 1-10 , plus and minus:
- Combusting : Minus 10
- Most conduction or poorer designed vapes Minus 4 to minus 2
- Most convection vapes Minus 2 to plus 3
- Quality vape with water bubbler Zero to plus 4
- Quality vape with hot tap water in it Plus 2 to plus 7

Plus marks are where actually above neutral, you'd do this vapor even if it had no THC/CBD/etc
That warm moist air can feel very refreshing, even with a heavy load of goodies :)
The vapor is still very hot, over 300 degF, and coolness effects the throatfeel a lot. Going through water at the source of the heat (thus adding maximum humidity), greatly reduces the temperature to under 150 defF as well.

We've had people put hot water in their Magma and Obsidian bubblers and report back positive results, so there's definitely something to be said for that! Cheers.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
The vapor is still very hot, over 300 degF, and coolness effects the throatfeel a lot. Going through water at the source of the heat (thus adding maximum humidity), greatly reduces the temperature to under 150 defF as well.

We've had people put hot water in their Magma and Obsidian bubblers and report back positive results, so there's definitely something to be said for that! Cheers.

How can you cool vapor that much without it falling out of phase and condensing onto the bag?
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
I started running at 365 and stepping up to 385...
Lol, is that 385 days of the year? Haha, sorry Baron its been too long since I made any sort of joke, it just didn't feel right and then I saw my opportunity, and alas once more you are my chosen victim! :lol:

Great to see you at Champs Baron btw (well, I didn't see you THERE, but you know what I mean.) I bet you can't wait to get home? Well Im not at all jealous of any of you so far, going by what I have seen and heard from you guys. It just looks SO corporate. Travel back safe. :tup:
 

Used2use

Sometimes to stupid to become a fool
I'm having trouble with the visuals here. I second @arb, just please post videos. I'm not clear how the bag won't melt, but my spatial skills are pathetic, and I'd love to see this.
i admit a bit silly idea to start with, but it should be doable with eg a SS tube in between - i don't have a FP, not a concentrate guy i like trichomes intact...

the air going into the bag is NOT 446. That's the temp of the heater element/heat sink that's in there and IMO there is no way that ambient air is getting fully heated to 446 F as it passes....what...5" through the heat sink?
don't know where u got that from but that is not correct - even the manual states the selected temp is just the projected temp based on the heater block (where the temp sensor is placed as it should for a precise control loop), which is at least 100K over the selected temp or it wouldn't produce any vapor - where else should the joules come from?
 
I found out about the Illadelph Volcano Adapter last month and I have been trying to find one or alternative that allow the Easy Valve to be used with a 14mm female joint. And for reference, here's the Illadelph Adapter:

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Okay, so the Adapter on the left is a 14mm male, which works universally. The one on the right is an adapter for a mini coil to attach to, which looks like this:

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I currently haven't found either online yet.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
After a couple of days i am completely sold on bags

I mean they are: bulky, noisy, not cleanable, plastic feel, yadda yadda yadda.. but they are able to smooth vapor so much that downsides i do not care too much for now

Chamber is huge, easily 4 pax spoon without tamping (btw is tamping usefull here?), that chamber gives back 4 balloons (2 on 6, 2 on 8.5-9) that put me in some place I wasn’t able to be in very long time (maybe last time was years ago, after few months t break I got my stash and my first vape: solo).

That single chamber last me the whole evening and I am way more medicated than with my other beloved devices through the same amount, so for now it is not too greedy as a vape

Harshness is almost non existent @6 (compared to direct draw vapes) and light @8,5-9

Vapor thickness is not on par, at 6 it is whispy and 9 still way less thick than a nano on 6,5-7. This also I do not care anymore

After reading more I decided to discard reducing chamber before oreder shipped, is it really worthed?

Abv never had a hotspot, nor taste

It is not as contained as an on demand or even a solo though (some vapor spilled in the air before putting balloons on and when lifting chamber after balloon is full)

Fucking winner if you are tired of glass and water IMO

Only thing I am little afraid is tolerance going high as I do
Maybe I’m JADED?
When I grew back in the 70’s (zigzag daz’s)
Bags might be ok?
Never tried one!
Now I want to try?
@Dear weed doula your picture has converted or changed my thinking ?
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
Volcano does not cover every situation but for me it replaces logs and glass for home use (for now at least) and with big improvement

When chain vaping more than one bag, the throat (more than lungs) feel dryiness and eventually I will try to put the bag on my orbiter, but I usually do one full bag max every here and there
One bag @6-7 doesnt’t cause almost any dryiness at all to me (190-202C)

@ataxian i think you would not regret buying it, I was on the fence between volcano and plenty and choosen volcano even if afraid I would possibly be disappointed by use of bags, I am not

Ritual is not very fascinating, to say the less, but the combo comfort and effectiveness of volcano bags (or bags in general?) is from another world IMO
 
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