Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

davesmith said:

Can i just add that even canna derived strain specific terps taste rank. Out of all the different ones ive tried (a close mate makes a lot of carts) the banana and kush terps are tolerable any others are rank imo.

If i wanted dabs on the go a puffco would be a much better idea imho

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Where is he sourcing his terpenes from? Are they clear or yellow? How were they extracted?

So today I got my dabbing.de order which contained the EJ-Mix, 2 CCell TH2 Catridges, 1ml unflavored tarps and
some more minors....

QUESTION : How long do u wait from filling to using the cartridges, I understand that the fluid needs some time to reach everywhere but some say 15 mins other 24h o.O...I also read about priming the coil..?! can anyone educate me plz ?

The EJ-Mix liquid is pretty thick, I rly wonder how that will vape, the one where I just added 8 drops of unflavored terps
to my rosin looks way sappier and better...from what everyone says this should be the one that tastes better so im pretty
excited..what I can lardy say is IT works @btka ...tried a mix of the both types (what didn't fit into the first cartridge) into a third one and alrdy tried...wooha...ultra stealth and smooth, gets one baked quick...problem its just too easy, I tend to take breath every time I walk by LOL

psychonaut said:

I bought one of those XZT digital gauges on ebay last week and unfortunately it doesn't hold an accurate pressure. It will reach the PSI then drop several hundred PSI over the course of a minute or two. I might have bought a knock off of a knock off. I'm not really interested in spending $300 on a high quality digital gauge so switching to a Winters +/- 1.5% accuracy analog gauge for $25.

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Kind of hard to see how the gauge would lose pressure....I should think (emphasis on think and not know) that if there is pressure drop its a bad check valve somewhere in the hydro system....and not a gauge???

There should be a fluid leak if the gauge is to blame.

Looks like my post got deleted. I thought it was a leak too, couldn't find any, even put a 8900 PSI load on the system for 5 minutes to try and find any leaks, it's all dry. The analog gauge doesn't lose pressure so it seems like perhaps a problem with the electronics in the device. The seller was quick to refund the money so I assume they were refurb units they were trying to resell. Who knows.

davesmith said:

If i wanted dabs on the go a puffco would be a much better idea imho

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been playing with this thought aswell, anyone here use it for rosin?

i did the ccell carts with rosin+terps for christmas eve with the fam etc,
sure it worked,
but in the end i concluded that id rather want to eat a small potent edible than deal with the ccell

(occasional clogs, and if too little terps is added it will take more muscle strenght in face area when pulling, which i dislike since it often leads me to headaches )

i want a device that will handle like 0.2 of rosin in one big hit

MegaMan2k said:

been playing with this thought aswell, anyone here use it for rosin?

i did the ccell carts with rosin+terps for christmas eve with the fam etc,
sure it worked,
but in the end i concluded that id rather want to eat a small potent edible than deal with the ccell

(occasional clogs, and if too little terps is added it will take more muscle strenght in face area when pulling, which i dislike since it often leads me to headaches )

i want a device that will handle like 0.2 of rosin in one big hit

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Do you mean the Puffco Peak or their smaller, hand held pens? The Peak can definitely handle rosin.

Did you decarb your rosin in your ccell? Might have better luck potency wise with activated oil. Been reading a lot about decarbing lately, it's very possible that "last minute decarboxylation" is not ideal when you consider the info. Everybody is so caught up in terp preservation that they would probably never consider heating their material before using, but it's very traditional in hash making.

invertedisdead said:

Do you mean the Puffco Peak or their smaller, hand held pens? The Peak can definitely handle rosin.

Did you decarb your rosin in your ccell? Might have better luck potency wise with activated oil. Been reading a lot about decarbing lately, it's very possible that "last minute decarboxylation" is not ideal when you consider the info. Everybody is so caught up in terp preservation that they would probably never consider heating their material before using, but it's very traditional in hash making.

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Yea not the peak, the handheld that came out in a v2, been hearing both good and bad tho ;P
so im not so sure what to think of it at this time

I do remember some1 in here mentioning that earlier in this thread(decarb), might have been you indeed-
But yes i agree, people are very caught up with terp preservation..
but it would seem logic since its a more runny consistency after decarbing very often

Here's a question, when pressing buds, especially bottle tech, do you find that getting up to pressure sooner versus letting it rise and fall slowly, eventually reaching desired pressure, to produce a lighter color finished product?

I noticed in my last press that the rosin extracted quite fast from the puck by going at a faster speed, and I seemed to get less of the dark color you may get towards the end of your press and around the puck.

I'm starting to think about just applying the pressure as quickly as I can versus preheating and heat soaking the puck by slowly applying pressure. It almost seems as if the puck is applied pressure more quickly, it should be releasing the rosin quicker and less time for it to melt into the plant matter more. More experiments needed This is doing test batches at 3.5g using 160u filter.

MegaMan2k said:

Yea not the peak, the handheld that came out in a v2, been hearing both good and bad tho ;P
so im not so sure what to think of it at this time

I do remember some1 in here mentioning that earlier in this thread(decarb), might have been you indeed-
But yes i agree, people are very caught up with terp preservation..
but it would seem logic since its a more runny consistency after decarbing very often

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I can't imagine the Puffco Plus being able to crush a .2 dab but I've never used one. You're gonna pretty much need a real nail hit for that. There's some metal coil atomizers that would give you a big cloud but not sure you would really enjoy the experience.

I should throw some of this jar tech rosin in a pen for science, it turned into a thick clear consistency, not sure it would wick well enough though, a drop of cannabis terps would probably help. Main issue is flower rosin will leave a decent sized residue on the nail, in a ccell there's nowhere for that to go so it will just crust up on the ceramic cell and start inhibiting vaporization.

psychonaut said:

Here's a question, when pressing buds, especially bottle tech, do you find that getting up to pressure sooner versus letting it rise and fall slowly, eventually reaching desired pressure, to produce a lighter color finished product?

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Not sure, but non pre-pressed material seems to come out with better color for me.

psychonaut said:

It almost seems as if the puck is applied pressure more quickly, it should be releasing the rosin quicker and less time for it to melt into the plant matter more.

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I did a 250F science squish yesterday, crazy how fast the rosin was flowing. 27% in 60 seconds.

You may be on to something about melting into plant matter. I was thinking back to our old Kipozi hair straightener squishes with this hotter temp run. Pure Pressure has a post on their blog about some of their owners swearing by higher temps. i am curious if it could actually help facilitate flow off the plates by pressing at higher temps. I realize this sounds detrimental for the terps but I started wondering if its like a wood fired pizza oven - the temp is much hotter than a gas deck oven, but the cook time is so much shorter that it actually comes out tasting fresher. Not sure if that's really the case here, but interesting analogy + theory. More testing needed!

Hey I've seen folks mention somewhere that regular old parchment paper may be leaching silicone into the rosin is there a current consensus on a relatively safe parchment/collection paper to press with? I'm guessing the 'unbleached & chlorine free' ones still have silicone on them, what do u guys use? Also if getting bleedthrough on plates would that indicate that the paper is indeed unstable in some way or just using too much pressure? Know this has been discussed skimmed way back but couldn't find the anwers, cheers.

I am not too much into the Puffco plus anymore, it is awesome while new and clean but exp. with rosin it gums up preeetty quick and it is impossible to keep clean while on vacation when i have no time outdoor to clean between every reload...tried my selfmade ccell´s yesterday...the one i mixed with the non flavored terps does have a bit of burnt taste although i let it sit for severa hours before use ( i read somewhere that could be from a tad too much terps added so il have to try again) but the visco. of it was on point...BUT still i find it way harder to draw then from the EJ-Mix liquid....that has a BIT of a sweet taste to it and is waaay thicker but works like a charm in the e-cig..nearly no draw resistance and nice clouds (guess from the added PG..)

My conclusion after the first day is that i actually like the EJ-Mix better as of now, easy to use and solid outcome,
it doesnt come tastewise any close to a good banger setup IMO or my Liger/saphire i.E. but for holidays to keep it stealth on flights i guess i will try to take 4 catridges with me this year

Will report more after more testinnnng....damn my T-Break has to move after holidays...too much to do

From what ive read in the few last posts i will try to make a hotter/faster squish aswell, 250° u say @invertedisdead ?
is that still fine with the bags..? And a minute pressing time..? guess i will just stop when i see nothing is coming out anymore...

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What i read on my amazon bags :

The softening point of the material is 374°F (190°C). The melting point is 428°F (220°C), but for best results, we recommend 180-240°F (82-115°C)

Anyone using the Pico-Sai for for rosin? I got it specifically for my new rosin source and it seems to work pretty well so far.

First day I've been using TCR 240, 40w, 480F, .70 locked..

I also have saved:

TCR 315, 35w, 450F, .70 locked

TCR 240, 35w, 450F, .70 locked

TC Nickel 200, 35w, 450F, .68 locked

But I haven't really tested them yet. Which settings would you recommend?

Guess, it's the wrong thread for that. This thread is for producing rosin not for consuming

Built a quick and easy pressure gauge adapter to put inline between the hose and cylinder.

1/4" NPT quick couplers on both sides, one end connects to the hydraulic cylinder, the other end the hose connects into.

Cheap 10000 PSI 1/4" NPT quick couplers.
https://summit-hydraulics.com/product/1-4-10000-psi-high-pressure-hydraulic-quick-coupler-set/

Did a squish of 10g at 240°C with appliing pressure fast and nearly no heatsoak before,
from start to end 2 mins, thats when i also see no more rosin coming out. There were 2 a bit darker "spots" but that was where i blew my bag...wich also happend as i applied a bit too much

For 40mm/10g bagged pucks i advice 3100psi line pressure (double that for 2 pucks), any higher starts blowing the bag in my scenario.

Anyway, my yield was pretty the same as if pressed heat soaked and way slower applied pressure, maybe even a bit more...it will rly be the key if it tastes better or not, didnt try that out yet.
What i can say is that the biggest part of the rosin doesnt stay long on the plate anyway because i (most?) like to angle the press a bit so it escapes the hot zone right away

Most recent press, swiss cheese auto by nirvana, 13wk cured, 200F for 2.5m at 1200 PSI, buddered up after about a day in the jar. 16% yield. Tastes like cilantro

Im on some auto version of sour diesel aswell these days,
Got some hasis in yields around 50%,

picture was a mix of the two, hasis yields nice light-yellow colored resin on its own,
often pressing the maroc hasis just comes out black, but this one almost look like flower rosin

slab was around 3 grams
5g hasis yielded 2.3g rosin
4.5 g flowr yielded 0.8 g rosin

smoking on it for 2-3 days now, still 1.5 grams left,
decently potent, and good taste
cool thing is i make this melt only at the cost of what would b 15$ / g

Question for the pressing experts: I've always been a bit sensitive to using any form of cannabis via inhalation, whether it's smoke or vapor. I'm sure this is just something I'll have to deal with to a certain extent, but when dabbing rosin with what seems to be pretty high terpene content, it feels worse. So, I'd like to try pressing some rosin with as little terpene representation as possible. Any suggested techniques I should try? Maybe pressing at a higher temperature (around 220) for longer?

@superdang9000

Look up water cure on ICmag. It won't help with fats/waxes.

superdang9000 said:

Question for the pressing experts: I've always been a bit sensitive to using any form of cannabis via inhalation, whether it's smoke or vapor. I'm sure this is just something I'll have to deal with to a certain extent, but when dabbing rosin with what seems to be pretty high terpene content, it feels worse. So, I'd like to try pressing some rosin with as little terpene representation as possible. Any suggested techniques I should try? Maybe pressing at a higher temperature (around 220) for longer?

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Have you tried decarbing your rosin before vaping?

invertedisdead said:

Have you tried decarbing your rosin before vaping?

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Actually, no I hadn't considered that. I've only done that with my attempts making cartridges, but those always had terps mixed back in.

If I go that route, any reason I wouldn't want to press at higher temps first for max extraction? I'm guessing it's going to end up on the sappy side regardless of starting consistency?

Yes pressing at higher temp like 220-230 would yield u more dark colored less terpy oil, but may become alittle sabby ofc.

i think i have some of the same issues, i like terps for the experience once in a whil
but not too high terp level for my daily driver tbh

its why i enjoy the blend between moroc hasis and flower rosin pretty much

superdang9000 said:

Question for the pressing experts: I've always been a bit sensitive to using any form of cannabis via inhalation, whether it's smoke or vapor. I'm sure this is just something I'll have to deal with to a certain extent, but when dabbing rosin with what seems to be pretty high terpene content, it feels worse. So, I'd like to try pressing some rosin with as little terpene representation as possible. Any suggested techniques I should try? Maybe pressing at a higher temperature (around 220) for longer?

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First I'm sorry to hear that, it must be frustrating. I have a mild mj allergy to varieties that have earthy, peppery terpenes. My eyes water and I cough a lot just trimming chem dog, let alone vaping it. But when it gets well cured and the terps change it causes me less trouble.

If its terpenes that give you trouble. Terpenes are not all the same. Perhaps keep a log of exactly what terpenes are in the varieties that causes you trouble. And just avoid them. Other than that you could try driving off terpenes by decarbing in an oven, or just eat medibles. Hope you find something that works for you.