Best Vape for tiny amounts

rusty

rusty

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Hi,

I am a total lightweight. I have been using a glass 1 hitter (almost looks like a cig) and smoke maybe .01g 3x a week. I tried the Eubie and learned how to draw vapor from it, but I don't like how harsh it is -- nothing like the sweet flavorful cool vapor I get using my friends VB hands free.

I am considering the Vapor Brothers, Extreme Q vapes but I am worried the bowls are too large for what I want to do.

I am picky about wanting glass on glass or ceramic heating elements and stainless steel. I prefer whip style and adjustable temperature.

Any advice?

thanks!
 
rusty,
flanman

flanman

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granted the log vapes aren't adjustable temperature, they sure as hell are great with small amounts and you can always attach some tubing to them.
 
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stinkmeaner

stinkmeaner

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Keep in mind the "ceramic heating element" is not the ceramic you are probably thinking about, most use Aluminum Oxide or Alumina.

Partial definition from Wikipedia: A ceramic is an inorganic, non-metallic solid prepared by the action of heat and subsequent cooling

I am not saying for sure that they are safe or unsafe for inhaling, but since the ceramic can mean so many different compounds, the truth is we really don't know if they are any safer than anything else. So long story short, you probably are being picky for no reason other than reading random internet posts by so called internet experts that really have no qualifications to make any determination whatsoever.
 
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rusty

rusty

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flanman -- by "log vape" do you mean something like purple haze?

stinkmeaner -- and great point about "ceramic" heating elements. I was just reading the Silversurfer website and they describe how their heating element is made.

looking forward to hearing more opinions, ideas on this.

thanks!
 
rusty,
max

max

Out to lunch
smoke maybe .01g 3x a week
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Are you sure you don't mean .1 instead of .01? It's difficult to even accurately weigh .01g, since good quality scales are only accurate to .01 at best (plus or minus .01), and most are only to .1g. Most people can't get a decent buzz from a hundredth of a g.

I prefer whip style and adjustable temperature.
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I'd have to say your preferences are at odds with each other. The best models for very small amounts are direct draw but not whip. I'd have to suggest the Launch Box, since it's adjustable (although not nearly as easy as a dial setting) and easy to use with small amounts. You can certainly use a full size whip vape for tiny amounts if you want. It'll be a lot easier to change the temp with a dial.
 
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hades65

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I'm a light user too and I'll go through a gram in about a month despite smoking 3-4 days a week. I do a small pinch per session.


The vape I use and love is the Silver Surfer Vaporizer (SSV) with a mini-whip purchased separately from Vapor Bros. The mini whip is important to make the SSV become efficient. The original is just too big in my opinion but the mini whip is only $10. The SSV is the only whip vape that I can think of that angles the heater downward and this is important when you are using small amounts.

I've tried log style vapes but the adjustable temperature is just too important for me. I like to be certain I'm getting all the cannabinoids vaped off.
 
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CompassRosie

CompassRosie

hippie hausfrau
I have a DBV, which is an adjustable-temp whip type, and it's wonderful, but it is (IME) a weed hog. I was actually going through more with it than I did when combusting, almost twice as much!* The Purple Days and the Launch Box are both really great with tiny amounts. YMMV of course, but both of those fixed-temp direct-draw vapes are absolutely the opposite of a weed hog -- more like weed camels. Since I put my PD together my consumption has dropped sharply... yet I'm stoned all the livelong day. :ko:

* admittedly I stop short of vaping out every last scrap of joy with the Buddha, because I love cooking with the ABV.
 
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rusty

rusty

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max- - I do mean .01g -- and you make a great point that my wishes are at odds in terms of the products out there.

hades65: what a great suggestion. Given your experience, this might be my best option. The "tech support" at VB was not very helpful when I asked them about the minimum amount you can use effectively with their vaporizer -- I realize that they need to be careful but they did not even mention the mini-whip which they sell!

The MFLB is cool but the batteries are a turn-off. still it is an option to keep in mind.

PD might be a compromise and it is pretty attractive little thing.

it is great to be able to chat about this with more experienced folks. thanks again!
 
rusty,
lwien

lwien

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It sounds like the Purple Days, Purple Days Pandora or the Myrtlezap would be perfect for you . These vapes are designed for accurate dosing of small amounts. That is their forte. They are fixed temp vapes and never really get over 395f. Fixed temps between 360 to 395 that can be varied with either ambient temps or an added koozie or increased voltage AC adapters. For me, I've found the fixed temps of the Purple Days to be perfect. Get's my ABV a very, very dark brown with just enough cannabinoids left to make some firecrackers with.

Now granted, I'm not getting the full compliment of cannabinoids at 390-395, but for me, going over those temps provides a harsher hit that doesn't taste nearly as good (as a matter of fact, it starts to taste kinda funky) along with the fact that I am getting an increased amount of toxins at those higher temps, so I find that the fixed temp ranges of the PD is perfect.

I've played around with variable temps with the Ion, but find that after much use, I just leave the Ion at 375f anyways, so the variable temp becomes a moot point for me.

I also know that there are others that really enjoy vaping at different temps throughout their session and for them, a fixed temp vape would not be to their liking.

Just offering up another point of view here. :2c:
 
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oldfart

oldfart

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lwien said:
It sounds like the Purple Days, Purple Days Pandora or the Myrtlezap would be perfect for you . These vapes are designed for accurate dosing of small amounts. That is their forte. They are fixed temp vapes and never really get over 395f. Fixed temps between 360 to 395 that can be varied with either ambient temps or an added koozie or increased voltage AC adapters. For me, I've found the fixed temps of the Purple Days to be perfect. Get's my ABV a very, very dark brown with just enough cannabinoids left to make some firecrackers with.

Now granted, I'm not getting the full compliment of cannabinoids at 390-395, but for me, going over those temps provides a harsher hit that doesn't taste nearly as good (as a matter of fact, it starts to taste kinda funky) along with the fact that I am getting an increased amount of toxins at those higher temps, so I find that the fixed temp ranges of the PD is perfect.

I've played around with variable temps with the Ion, but find that after much use, I just leave the Ion at 375f anyways, so the variable temp becomes a moot point for me.

I also know that there are others that really enjoy vaping at different temps throughout their session and for them, a fixed temp vape would not be to their liking.

Just offering up another point of view here. :2c:
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The PD or MZ is what your looking for it has everything you need
 
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stinkmeaner

stinkmeaner

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rusty said:
stinkmeaner -- and great point about "ceramic" heating elements. I was just reading the Silversurfer website and they describe how their heating element is made.
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7th Floor/Silver Surfer/Da Buddha have some questionable business practices, something that has been bothering me for a while is that they say the Da Buddha is made in the USA on the intro screen of the Da Buddha Website, when in fact it is manufactured in China, they could change it at any time but they don't.

And the whole dramatized statement about the heating element is just a bunch of garbage, if you didn't know any better you would think it there elements came with a Halo hovering overhead, they are just plain cartridge heaters probably not even an expensive brand from the looks of them. I am not saying they don't work but there is definitely no innovation involved. If you want to see their spacial heating technology Rusty, just go to http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/high-density-cartridge-heaters.html

For small amounts it seems like you might enjoy one of the Log Vapes like Myrtle Zap, Purple Days Pandora, or Woodeez, though I do not own one, the price is low and they seem to have many fans so that many people can't be wrong. I myself am waiting for the VapeXhale Cloud which you might want to look into if you have a little time to wait before making a decision because it is not available yet.
 
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lwien

lwien

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stinkmeaner said:
I myself am waiting for the VapeXhale Cloud which you might want to look into if you have a little time to wait before making a decision because it is not available yet.
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Yeah, I'm anxiously awaiting the Cloud also, but in some communications that I've had with SM, it really isn't designed to work as well with small, measured doses, such as a PD or a Zap is. It's really designed for a more voluminous hit.
 
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stinkmeaner

stinkmeaner

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Yeah, I kind of figured that too. I have a Supreme which is good for small amounts so that will cover that until I budget for another vaporizer, eventually I would like a collection and that will include a Log Vape down the line but next on my list will be the Cloud.

His best bet is the PD or MZ or WDZ for sure if he is wanting the .01.
 
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steiner666

steiner666

Serial vapist
i was going to say purple days or one of its clones. but if you want a whip vape and variable temp then yeah, def look into the SSV + vaporbros mini. I dont know what the bowls weigh, but if i dump mine out onto my scale it doesnt even register as 0.1g, which is as small as my scale weighs.
 
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hades65

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Today I took my Mytlezap bowl and sucked up one bowls worth and then immediately emptied the contents into the mini whip and vaped it with the SSV. Seemed to cover roughly 80-90% of the mini whip screen. So when I usually vape with my SSV I usually cover the entire screen so I'm probably putting about 1.2 bowls of a Myrtlezap into my mini whip. So I guess I increased my amount by some but I'm not worried about it since it's all too small to make a difference to me.
 
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2clicker

2clicker

Observer
i vape 1 - .5g a day and find my DBV to be very efficient. using it at first it did seem thati was using more than id like to but then i started to use less. after finding a good temp and amount im using less and getting quality hits. i also find myself needing another session less often than i did when combusting. however... .01g is a small amount... is it even worth vaping over combustion...?
 
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rusty

rusty

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Hi, I just wanted to post a followup on my search for a vaporizer that works with tiny amounts.

Following hades65 suggestion I went with a mini whip. From what I could gather on the various ceramic heating elements out there and the design of the product, I liked the VB best, even though the angle is not as optimal as SSV. A Purple Daze may still be in my future as I really think they are well designed and attractive and are a bit more portable.

I bought a VB hands free and ordered it with a miniwhip along with the precision bubbler. I use so little herb each time, less than .03g -- (.03g is the minimum of what my scale can measure accurately). I don't get clouds of smoke but I get tasty effective hits. I have not had a problem with the herb falling out of the bowl.

I like the extra control you get with the non hands free miniwhip.

I really liked the excellent customer service I got from AJ at http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/. He sent along a trial sample of some medical grade silicone tubing which is softer and more flexible than the standard clear tubing and works better with the little gong bubbler. I also like the feel of it way better.

So I am a happy camper. @#$% Combustion Indeed:D

Thanks to everyone who posted their comments and suggestions.
 
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