AJS
Calm Consistency
Yep I'm using a version from about a year ago, never updated mine. M1 TCR I believe was just renamed "Tubo"
Discontinued Splinter Z by RBT
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Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Mine is down to 105 now, still not feeling quite right, I have no idea my dudes lol
analytika
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Just buy a DNA "c" gen. Its replay algorithm is more advanced and does not need to know the material.
HerbieVonVapster
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Since TCR and TRF are reading the resistance of the mesh coil temperature the air passing thru load it’s going be cooler than actual temperature of the coil itself.
That the reason why where seeing TCR set at a higher value than the material. SS316 is .0092 (92tcr)most find a TCR value in the .0150 (150 tcr)or more works better.
Makes using someone else setting more difficult since things like stem size and what screen is used effect the rate of air passsing over load and what temperature the vapor will be.
Most of the DNA files in FCSHARE where made using the older 19/22 stems with finer basket type screen than what’s now being sent with the new splinters.
Traveling and don’t use the 19/22 stems so haven’t had a chance to redo the splinter profiles for these stems. My suggestion is to increase the temperature over trying to over modify the tcr or material files to match the temperature. You could also try using the SS430 .0138 (138 tcr)material with DNA mods since SS430 has a higher tcr value than SS316(92tcr)
Replay is another option to try. I tend to vape at different temperatures and different rates of draw speed and didn’t find it useful. Others swear by it so really comes down to a personally preference. It’s definitely worth trying It out if using a DNAc model
That the reason why where seeing TCR set at a higher value than the material. SS316 is .0092 (92tcr)most find a TCR value in the .0150 (150 tcr)or more works better.
Makes using someone else setting more difficult since things like stem size and what screen is used effect the rate of air passsing over load and what temperature the vapor will be.
Most of the DNA files in FCSHARE where made using the older 19/22 stems with finer basket type screen than what’s now being sent with the new splinters.
Traveling and don’t use the 19/22 stems so haven’t had a chance to redo the splinter profiles for these stems. My suggestion is to increase the temperature over trying to over modify the tcr or material files to match the temperature. You could also try using the SS430 .0138 (138 tcr)material with DNA mods since SS430 has a higher tcr value than SS316(92tcr)
Replay is another option to try. I tend to vape at different temperatures and different rates of draw speed and didn’t find it useful. Others swear by it so really comes down to a personally preference. It’s definitely worth trying It out if using a DNAc model
AJS
Calm Consistency
If you're serious about it and it's not a burden to you I can send over a Splinter, and I suppose a Splinter Z too although I just got mine back so would be sad to leave again haha. I just don't know how consistent each unit is and if different mod variations will play a part in the actual results for each person/Splinter.reading this thread is fingernail bendingsend me the attachments and i measure them out with my thermo couple and tell you guys the correct tcr numbers
@funkyjunky and @AJS .. From current documentation it looks like any cruise over 50w for more than 30 seconds voids the warranty? Not sure if that applies to the Splinter Z too.. https://www.rastabuddhatao.com/Articles.asp?ID=269 .
"Over temperature Splinter - Splinter has a max wattage of 50 watts and a maximum on-time of 30 seconds - Exceeding these conditions voids warranty"
So I guess a (non-warranty breaking) default of 50w or under, and max session time of 30 seconds might be good!
"Over temperature Splinter - Splinter has a max wattage of 50 watts and a maximum on-time of 30 seconds - Exceeding these conditions voids warranty"
So I guess a (non-warranty breaking) default of 50w or under, and max session time of 30 seconds might be good!
AJS
Calm Consistency
Those kinds of temps would blow my load
I rarely go over 35W. Good to know the Splinter can take much more than I'm giving her 
I'm not sure how you're equating wattage to temp when in tcr.. the coils will only draw the power they need to keep temp, so you could set it to 260C and if you didnt take a drag it would only draw a really low wattage. The vape is still hot as hell though!Those kinds of temps would blow my load
I guess this partly depends how you interpret the warranty.. It reads like you shouldnt ever exceed 50w (I.e. throw too much power at the heater). Or run it for over 30 seconds regardless of the wattage (I.e. expose the vape to heat for extended periods of time)
And if that was the case then your last video would doubly void the warranty, seeming as your tcr is set to 70w peak and your runtime is over 30 secs..
![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
Or am I interpreting it wrong, and you cant exceed 50w output for more than 30 seconds.. So 49w at 260C for an hour or 2 is no problem? As is 500W power, so long as its for 29 seconds? If that is the case (I doubt it myself) then the wording might need tweaking!
SloJimFizz
Unknown Member
Yea, not offering warranty when used in tcr mode never made sense to me when it is the least taxing on the atty when set right. 
almost there
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yes, of course but there is that little something about the secret materialYea, not offering warranty when used in tcr mode never made sense to me when it is the least taxing on the atty when set right.
Easywider
Simple is the way
Since Ryan doesn't mess with TC and the condition he's referencing is the article is non repairable "over temperature". I interpreted this as, Don't run it past 50W ( in wattage mode ) for more then 30 consecutive seconds. In wattage mod the heat will keep increasing the full duration of the 30seconds without anything to stop it. I could certainly see how this could cause something to over heat and damage within the unit. But running your splinter @70W in TCR set to 410F is going to get to temp in the first 3-5 seconds and from then on it will only use power when needed to keep the set temperature.
HerbieVonVapster
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RBT doesn’t officially support TC mode not sure how using cruise effects warranty. Since it’s draws only wattage needed to maintain temperature it’s not drawling 50watts the whole 30 seconds.
I use cruise with the stempod for travel for long periods on the wismec p80. When hiking traveling find cruise really worth using. At home and in camper I use the splintersZ with a DNA chip.
Personally feel with the splinters there’s no need for cruise when I’m medicating at home. It heat up almost instantly and 20 seconds is more than enough time to draw a hit. DNA doesn’t allow cruise and gladly trade that feature for the more accurate temperatures control of the DNA chip.
I don’t see Ryan every officially supporting TC there just too many variables with different mods and settings needed to support it.
I sent him the results a while back on the for the DNAc and how well it maintained a steady tempature in tc along with link for FCSHARE files. He has since responded so he’s aware that a lot of his user base is wanting to use TC with the splinters.
So basically TC is ok and won’t void warranty, it isn’t support so where on our own getting it to work.
I’m not sure about using cruise with it. Personally feel it’s less wear tear on coil than the wattage mode. Only takes 6-8 watts to maintain the set temperatures.
The extended heating up possibly could affect the wood or glue glass connections with overuse?
I use cruise with the stempod for travel for long periods on the wismec p80. When hiking traveling find cruise really worth using. At home and in camper I use the splintersZ with a DNA chip.
Personally feel with the splinters there’s no need for cruise when I’m medicating at home. It heat up almost instantly and 20 seconds is more than enough time to draw a hit. DNA doesn’t allow cruise and gladly trade that feature for the more accurate temperatures control of the DNA chip.
I don’t see Ryan every officially supporting TC there just too many variables with different mods and settings needed to support it.
I sent him the results a while back on the for the DNAc and how well it maintained a steady tempature in tc along with link for FCSHARE files. He has since responded so he’s aware that a lot of his user base is wanting to use TC with the splinters.
So basically TC is ok and won’t void warranty, it isn’t support so where on our own getting it to work.
I’m not sure about using cruise with it. Personally feel it’s less wear tear on coil than the wattage mode. Only takes 6-8 watts to maintain the set temperatures.
The extended heating up possibly could affect the wood or glue glass connections with overuse?
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
@HerbieVonVapster a quick shout out to you. Thanks! You shared a link to a Reuleaux Evolv DNA250 on eBay a few pages back. I purchased one of these (my 1st Box Mod) from the same seller, it was just delivered today and I did check the serial number at Wismec’s site against the scratch off security code and Wismec indicates it’s authentic. I believe there were 5 left whe I purchased mine. Looking forward to getting acquainted with this mod and my new Z!
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Hmm I am contemplating grabbing a Wismec RX Gen3 Dual now, even though it is not DNA or FJcompatible, since I like the form factor... Seems it works with surmyevic, but would still require my figuring out TC for myself... The Senuous P80 is nice looking for a single batt mod too, but unsure how well it'd fit the Z without any overhang... I know I should be grabbing a DNA mod, but their price and form factors aren't as enticing with a Triade for $120 vs $40 for the RX...
almost there
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Breazy.com currently has the gen3 on sale but it's not the dual. There's a coupon code somewhere if you search, comes down to like $35 with coupon
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yeah, I'm going to tough it out with watts for now unless I can get some sort of TC with the Gen3 Dual in stock or surmyevic or whatever else is available I guess... I'd suggest to hunt around for the RX DNA230C since you know Wismec already and I think I've seen it for just $80 or so somewhere
Ah wow that is crazy, but yeah if I were to go with that form I'd definitely get the DNA230C instead even for more than double the cost (though the bronze may not match my Canarywood too well)
Anyway so yeah I grabbed a Gen3 Dual for like $41 at eciggity, seems like the perfect form factor for me and the Z, maybe they'll release a DNA version some day...
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I have some half ass temp control working to some degree on the Z and the 2/3. While the temp does continue to rise it is rising pretty slowly so I can avoid singing as long as I don't hit really long. They aren't actual temps, but I do a few hits for flavor at 280, get decent density at about 340 and then finish it off at 390. It works OK.
(heh heh half ass .. to some degree. am I qualifying at all?)
(heh heh half ass .. to some degree. am I qualifying at all?)
Lozo
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I've just started using a DDave cooling stem with the Z and it's an amazing combination. Desktop power and vapour in a portable, at least in my opinion. Got the RX Gen3 Dual mod running FJ, tried TC and TCR but gone back to Wattage and running between 30-35 W. Using the FJ Firmware I don't have that 10sec time out.
I don't see much difference between any of these Mod settings if I'm honest but perhaps I just haven't spent enough time setting them up but at this point don't feel like I need to either.
Using the DDave stem I seem to get a much more even and darker ABV in comparison to the standard short / long stems or water adapter. Highly impressed.
I don't see much difference between any of these Mod settings if I'm honest but perhaps I just haven't spent enough time setting them up but at this point don't feel like I need to either.
Using the DDave stem I seem to get a much more even and darker ABV in comparison to the standard short / long stems or water adapter. Highly impressed.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Oh! You were able to get @funkyjunky's software running on the RX Gen3 Dual?! It isn't listed in the supported mods, so I was afraid I'd be stuck with something else unfamiliar to me. Exciting to hear, mine is already on the way, can't wait!
Lozo
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@Shit Snacks I found the FJ bin file that works for the RX Gen 3 Dual here https://forum.vapelife.com/discussion/comment/81197
I'm still kinda lost with all these mods but yes it seems to work fine. I double checked with the packaging it came in and definitely say RX Gen3 Dual
I'm still kinda lost with all these mods but yes it seems to work fine. I double checked with the packaging it came in and definitely say RX Gen3 Dual
duff
Well worn
Fwiw that isn't fj firmware, that's the myevic fw and is very different than fj's.
Unless you downloaded fj's from his location and installed his successfully. But as far as I know, it shouldn't work with that particular mod.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Well then, too good to be true lol I guess I'll be back to trying to figure that out afterall... Thanks for reading that thread link more thoroughly, I just skimmed lol
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