Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

pxl_jockey said:

Wow. Thanks for this @Roth I had no idea the stand wasn’t compatible with the VRod carb cap. Or is it just that you have an older versions of the stand designed before the VRod existed? That would make more sense. But I just looked at it online and the pictures are with the SH & accessories and there’s nothing on the product page that says it’s compatible with the VRod Carb Cap, I feel so dumb for assuming it was.

I just bought the VRod along with every accessory that my conscience would allow yesterday. I’m laughing at myself (not in a good way) because I had the Ti FP heater post in my cart until I caved at the very end and switched it out for the safety stand. I definitely wouldn’t have bought a $55 stand that won’t work for the VRod carb cap. I really wish I had looked into & confirmed all this before buying. Shame on me.

I don’t recall reading anything about that here? Anyone here get the VRod & Safety stand recently who can comment on the fitment of the VRod Cap with the stand? I really really hope it does! Ease my mind!

If not, guess it’s time for an email to support@NV! I trust that NV will be able to exchange/refund for the stand and let me get the Ti FP heater post instead. I’m pretty sure that NV got a bajillion orders on BF so hopefully should be able to get in front of this before my order is boxed up and shipped.

Oh well. Not gonna waste time with thoughts and prayers over this small matter. I’m off to find a live chicken (easy in my village!), a bottle of rum and a cigar so I can get my voodoo on!

Can’t believe that I’m actually finally able to join the flowerpot party soon with the cool kids!

EDIT: The product page says it works with both SH & VR heads, but nothing about the Caps.

EDIT #2: Just realised that my order # ends in 666! Cue the Iron Maiden!

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Zementos said:

My vrod carb cap fits in the stand.
The old showehead/wa cap sits on the rim of the one hole, the vrod cap goes all in. Might be a problem if you have the dabber sideways, otherwise no compatibility issues.

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Sorry, yes, need to clarify. The SH cap sits on the rim and fits beautifully. The Vrod cap is too narrow to sit on the rim and falls down to the floor below.

I always have my dabber on the cap coming out to the side, so it causes the cap to sit at an angle in the stand. It still works, it's just not as elegant as the fit of the SH cap, even when the SH dabber is horizontal as well.

I'm not at home right now, and don't remember how the Vrod cap fits when the dabber is aligned vertically.

@pxl_jockey don't have any second doubts about the safety stand. I couldn't imagine using my FP without one. I was just looking to bring the fit of the horizontally aligned Vrod cap up to NV's wonderfully high standards!

Can't wait for you to enjoy the wonders of the FP!

...and you also can place the carb cap in one of the dabber holes.

BTW I can't place my order at NV. Since yesterday I'm trying to end my checkout but the site is pending every time at the shipment address. Does anyone else also have these problems? It happens to me every time I try it. The shipment address site will not be loaded. I want to order!!

EDIT: Now I tried a different way but now it's already pending when choosing the method of shipment on the shopping card site

@NewVape710, @newvape918, please help!!

Hogni said:

...and you also can place the carb cap in one of the dabber holes.

BTW I can't place my order at NV. Since yesterday I'm trying to end my checkout but the site is pending every time at the shipment address. Does anyone else also have these problems? It happens to me every time I try it. The shipment address site will not be loaded. I want to order!!

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Roth said:

Sorry, yes, need to clarify. The SH cap sits on the rim and fits beautifully. The Vrod cap is too narrow to sit on the rim and falls down to the floor below.

I always have my dabber on the cap coming out to the side, so it causes the cap to sit at an angle in the stand. It still works, it's just not as elegant as the fit of the SH cap, even when the SH dabber is horizontal as well.

I'm not at home right now, and don't remember how the Vrod cap fits when the dabber is aligned vertically.

@pxl_jockey don't have any second doubts about the safety stand. I couldn't imagine using my FP without one. I was just looking to bring the fit of the horizontally aligned Vrod cap up to NV's wonderfully high standards!

Can't wait for you to enjoy the wonders of the FP!

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I imagine if they machined a circular insert that would slide in and reduce the diameter of the hole slightly, you could adjust the stands to fit the VR carb cap perfectly.

Ok ive got the Showerhead Bundle and 2 Ti doubleweave screens in my cart. 12.5” stereo matrix rig flat top as my glass.

Gonna stare at this total price for another hour before I checkout.

Any last minute advice? Anything like a change of glass, change to vrod, other accessories to add? Just wanna grt it right the first time! As a reminder when considering advice, 99% flower smoker in Delaware (illegal state)

Therefore we have to know what's already on your shopping cart

- glass bowl?
- regular ti screens?
- threaded loading tool?
- another sized post for the Shovelhead?
- Shovel dabber?

Dont stare its not polite, close your mind hit "buy" and then you will open your mind

V Rod is a great, safe (no plastic) vape that can cater to every need.

crownroyaldaddy said:

Ok ive got the Showerhead Bundle and 2 Ti doubleweave screens in my cart. 12.5” stereo matrix rig flat top as my glass.

Gonna stare at this total price for another hour before I checkout.

Any last minute advice? Anything like a change of glass, change to vrod, other accessories to add? Just wanna grt it right the first time! As a reminder when considering advice, 99% flower smoker in Delaware (illegal state)

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I really enjoy having a second bowl, that way if I do not kill one containing an Indica strain and I want to enjoy a sativa dominant I can just switch to the other bowl. The loading tool whether threaded or not is great to have. When you say bundle, does that include a fine grinder?

Order placed. Ended up sticking with the showerhead bundle and 2 double weaved Ti screens to go with it. Should get me going.

Thanks for all of your help and i hope to be able to add my 2 cents in from experience in the future.

crownroyaldaddy said:

Ok ive got the Showerhead Bundle and 2 Ti doubleweave screens in my cart. 12.5” stereo matrix rig flat top as my glass.

Gonna stare at this total price for another hour before I checkout.

Any last minute advice? Anything like a change of glass, change to vrod, other accessories to add? Just wanna grt it right the first time! As a reminder when considering advice, 99% flower smoker in Delaware (illegal state)

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This vaporizer is built to last you....
Maybe in a few years the whole US is legal.
Go ahead and miss the VROD...
Who told you the VROD is not as good for flowers....
Pppffff... it’s the same.... titanium all the way.... the VROD has even less Ti than the SH... it has SiC dish... inert and delivers up to standard taste for dabs.... so why in the hell you believe people that told you that SH taste or perform better than VROD.
VROD taste for flower and performs the same.
Period.
And looks way more beautiful than the SH.
But go ahead.... your money.

Zangano Cruel said:

This vaporizer is built to last you....
Maybe in a few years the whole US is legal.
Go ahead and miss the VROD...
Who told you the VROD is not as good for flowers....
Pppffff... it’s the same.... titanium all the way.... the VROD has even less Ti than the SH... it has SiC dish... inert and delivers up to standard taste for dabs.... so why in the hell you believe people that told you that SH taste or perform better than VROD.
VROD taste for flower and performs the same.
Period.
And looks way more beautiful than the SH.
But go ahead.... your money.

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No, they don't perform the same. The SH does edge out the VROD for strictly flower usage. I have to cap the VROD for the first half of my hit to maintain the same extraction. I have the Rev a and have tried with and without the middle plug.

They get me the same place with the same amount of material, but the SH certainly had the ease of use factor. VROD just take a bit more technique.

so????? flavor is the same imo..... give me more pros please.... other than not wanting to take an extra hit????..... btw, I can finish a bowl in one hit if needed with the VROD.... capped or uncappped.... all depends on technique and how good your lungs are.....
and if you have clean lungs or strong ones.... technique is not even a factor..... because after a 20 seconds plus draw.... there's a bit of conduction going on because of the head sitting that long on the bowl, that will turn any ABV, very dark chocolate brown color.... a complete total good extraction..... with only some high temp CBDs left, to get those, you need to combust or coconut oil ABV wash......
all this in a 72F room temp.... 630F VROD temp..... NV PID controller.....
talk about performance....
Too many words... more action needed... this was fast... need to leave home soon....

Video of uncapped VROD at 630F...
Totally hangover from yesterday’s Saturday Night Fever... at 42yo... 2 bottles of Merlot and dabs and pubs, and VapCaps and CCells inside the discos.... and a couple Fernet colas...
I’m ruined now...to start drawing I did some breathing warm ups.... jajajaja
I use a trick besides the center hole plug too... I microdose and load my greens on the rim of the screen, touching the bowl wall, and leaving uncovered the middle of the screen.... my ABV after looks like a doughnut jajajaja


Here are some pics of the leftover ABV....

No flash...

With flash....

Close up....

ABV leftovers... those clear spots are vaped... the rest are “well done” jajajaja

Stay vaped...
Later

Hmmmmh, I never get such hotspots and uneven extraction with my Showerhead

Hogni said:

Hmmmmh, I never get such hotspots and uneven extraction with my Showerhead

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Exactly. In order to maintain the same even extraction with the VROD, I have to use my cap for the first half of the hit. Then no uneven extraction.

Zangano Cruel said:

so????? flavor is the same imo..... give me more pros please.... other than not wanting to take an extra hit????..... btw, I can finish a bowl in one hit if needed with the VROD.... capped or uncappped.... all depends on technique and how good your lungs are.....

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Never said anything about an extra hit. Your post is incredibly hard to read with the amount of ellipses you use. I believe you mentioned previously that it's how you talk in person, so I'm not discounting it. Just that it makes it incredibly difficult for me to maintain any focus on your posts.

Also, you're agreeing with me here. The VROD requires more technique to maintain the same extraction efficiency as the SH. I traded my SH to my friend that I bought this Rev. A VROD for this exact reason. My friend and their SO don't want to have to fuss with any technique, and I wanted the ability to twax, so we both ended up ahead. That being said, I'm still rebuying the SH at some point. It's just too good.

They're neck and neck in performance. The only difference is technique. Which is why I said that they don't perform the same. You can't do the same thing for each of them and get the same results. I.E They don't perform the same.

Zangano Cruel said:

so????? flavor is the same imo..... give me more pros please.... other than not wanting to take an extra hit????..... btw, I can finish a bowl in one hit if needed with the VROD.... capped or uncappped.... all depends on technique and how good your lungs are.....
and if you have clean lungs or strong ones.... technique is not even a factor..... because after a 20 seconds plus draw.... there's a bit of conduction going on because of the head sitting that long on the bowl, that will turn any ABV, very dark chocolate brown color.... a complete total good extraction..... with only some high temp CBDs left, to get those, you need to combust or coconut oil ABV wash......
all this in a 72F room temp.... 630F VROD temp..... NV PID controller.....
talk about performance....
Too many words... more action needed... this was fast... need to leave home soon....

Video of uncapped VROD at 630F...
Totally hangover from yesterday’s Saturday Night Fever... at 42yo... 2 bottles of Merlot and dabs and pubs, and VapCaps and CCells inside the discos.... and a couple Fernet colas...
I’m ruined now...to start drawing I did some breathing warm ups.... jajajaja
I use a trick besides the center hole plug too... I microdose and load my greens on the rim of the screen, touching the bowl wall, and leaving uncovered the middle of the screen.... my ABV after looks like a doughnut jajajaja

Here are some pics of the leftover ABV....

No flash...

With flash....

Close up....

ABV leftovers... those clear spots are vaped... the rest are “well done” jajajaja

Stay vaped...
Later

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That looks absolutely horrible! No offense intended.

BornAgainSteama said:

That looks absolutely horrible! No offense intended.

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Agreed. That's extremely unevenly vaped ABV!

I’ll finally be able to give my own opinion on the difference between the VRod and ShowerHead instead of just aggregating yours.

VRod (plus balls/cap/glass bowl/Ti post/fine grinder) incoming!

...and @Zangano Cruel I’m glad you’re already happy with the results you’re getting, but while @BornAgainSteama may not have put it gently enough, the FP can produce much more evenly done loads.

My guess is the hole in the middle is sucking the air through too fast to get the lower layers and that’s why the top is so cooked while the lower layers are still so light.

I’d experiment more with these things in this order if you want to get more even extraction:

1. Load placement. At least with the ShowerHead, I find the very edge to be the least done at the end, so I often stir a bit and get flower *away* from the edge of the bowl. My guess is keeping it more in the middle or evenly spread will work out better overall.

2. Load size. It seems like you’re using a high temp and a (slightly) thick donut of flower. At low temps you should be fine with a much deeper bowl full, but at high temps I only have about one loose layer and I stir it between hits.

3. Coil temp and draw speed. I just mentioned temps above, but draw speed is also connected to it and they’re also good variable to experiment with.

You’ll generally get the best results with either a slow draw at a lower temp - maybe 500 up to a bit over 600, or a medium-fast draw at more like 700-800. You’re definitely risking combustion in the high 700s though. A medium draw should work is most of the 600-700 range.

Carb cap, glass, etc. make a difference too, so if you want to get the best extraction you can, do some more experimenting! If you need more tips, we’re always here to help.

If you’re happy with your results and you want me to that’s fine, but I at least want other people to know they can get very even AVB.

I was trying to prove a point guys..... that was a show off about the capabilities of the VROD while playing with it.....experimenting with my doughnut loads....
many people mention that an uncapped VROD is not enough for flower..... I can show you plenty of ways to make that ABV look even all the way.... capped or uncapped.... that was my point..... that was an experiment.....
By the way.... please follow the context of my answer and the thread before teaching me how to vape jajajjajajajaja I've been doing it since 2011 full time.... please..... go vape a bowl...

Hey guys I was planning on picking up the FP today. I was going to grab the VROD since it is their newest version. I’m just trying to get the basic parts for it to work. I already have a glass piece so in my cart I have the enail controller, 20mm enail, VROD and the 14/18 female body. Do I need anything else like the carb cap? If so how many holes should I get with the carb cap if it is needed? All advice is welcome

Ducksauce7 said:

Hey guys I was planning on picking up the FP today. I was going to grab the VROD since it is their newest version. I’m just trying to get the basic parts for it to work. I already have a glass piece so in my cart I have the enail controller, 20mm enail, VROD and the 14/18 female body. Do I need anything else like the carb cap? If so how many holes should I get with the carb cap if it is needed? All advice is welcome

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Absolutely get the carb cap, not really optional imo. As far as number of holes in the cap, not many people have experimented with differing numbers, so don't have many/any comparisons.

If I were ordering one for myself, I'd go with 1 hole, maybe 2.

For the Vrod, make sure you get the SiC dish. You can get the quartz too to play around with, but you'll definitely want the SiC as your daily driver

Also get some double weave Ti screens for your bowl, we'll worth it.

Enjoy!

Are there any holiday sales coming up for the FP Vrod?

Ducksauce7 said:

Hey guys I was planning on picking up the FP today. I was going to grab the VROD since it is their newest version. I’m just trying to get the basic parts for it to work. I already have a glass piece so in my cart I have the enail controller, 20mm enail, VROD and the 14/18 female body. Do I need anything else like the carb cap? If so how many holes should I get with the carb cap if it is needed? All advice is welcome

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I'm also confused about what to order to have the basic set. I just want to vape flower / concentrates but the ordering process is kind of daunting.

Is the enail controller sold separately? Sic dish? I'm very confused about what to order to have the basic set.

I also don't have anything besides the glass. Can anyone suggest what to ./ not to get? I want the sic dish because I don't want to taste titanium in my oils.

SonSzu said:

Are there any holiday sales coming up for the FP Vrod?

I noticed that when you are buying the controller that the enail style you choose with it includes the enail. I noticed this because the price jumps from $80 to $115 which would account for the $35 enail itself.

I'm also confused about what to order to have the basic set. I just want to vape flower / concentrates but the ordering process is kind of daunting.

Is the enail controller sold separately? Sic dish? I'm very confused about what to order to have the basic set.

I also don't have anything besides the glass. Can anyone suggest what to ./ not to get? I want the sic dish because I don't want to taste titanium in my oils.

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SonSzu said:

Are there any holiday sales coming up for the FP Vrod?



I'm also confused about what to order to have the basic set. I just want to vape flower / concentrates but the ordering process is kind of daunting.

Is the enail controller sold separately? Sic dish? I'm very confused about what to order to have the basic set.

I also don't have anything besides the glass. Can anyone suggest what to ./ not to get? I want the sic dish because I don't want to taste titanium in my oils.

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Roth said:

Absolutely get the carb cap, not really optional imo. As far as number of holes in the cap, not many people have experimented with differing numbers, so don't have many/any comparisons.

If I were ordering one for myself, I'd go with 1 hole, maybe 2.

For the Vrod, make sure you get the SiC dish. You can get the quartz too to play around with, but you'll definitely want the SiC as your daily driver

Also get some double weave Ti screens for your bowl, we'll worth it.

Enjoy!

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Do I only need to buy the SiC dish for the concentrates? I may wait to grab it if I don’t need it for flower at the moment

SonSzu said:

Are there any holiday sales coming up for the FP Vrod?



I'm also confused about what to order to have the basic set. I just want to vape flower / concentrates but the ordering process is kind of daunting.

Is the enail controller sold separately? Sic dish? I'm very confused about what to order to have the basic set.

I also don't have anything besides the glass. Can anyone suggest what to ./ not to get? I want the sic dish because I don't want to taste titanium in my oils.

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I noticed that when you are buying the controller that the enail style you choose with it includes the enail. I noticed this because the price jumps from $80 to $115 which would account for the $35 enail itself.

SonSzu said:

Are there any holiday sales coming up for the FP Vrod?



I'm also confused about what to order to have the basic set. I just want to vape flower / concentrates but the ordering process is kind of daunting.

Is the enail controller sold separately? Sic dish? I'm very confused about what to order to have the basic set.

I also don't have anything besides the glass. Can anyone suggest what to ./ not to get? I want the sic dish because I don't want to taste titanium in my oils.

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Black Friday sale is going on now, through midnight tonight. Use the code "gibletgravy" for 15% off. I believe someone from NV said this would be the last sale of the year.

Just go to https://www.newvape.com/flowerpot-vrod-build-a-bundle and build your bundle. It will get you set up with everything you need.

Just select what size post you need for the bowl to fit your glass. Add any other options you want. I'd absolutely get the carb cap and a double weave Ti screen or two.

Then just select the right controller for your region/voltage. Don't select anything for the glass section if you already have your own.

It looks like the bundle already comes with the SiC dish. SiC stands for Silicon Carbide, and is the high end material that the bowl you dab off of is made out of. There is an option for a quartz dish as well in the parts page, but I would just skip it personally. SiC functions much better with the Vrod.


Jump on it today if you want 15% off!

Ducksauce7 said:

Do I only need to buy the SiC dish for the concentrates? I may wait to grab it if I don’t need it for flower at the moment

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I've never personally used the Vrod without the dish, but the new style carb cap won't fit without the dish. The new Vrod carb cap seals on the dish instead of the Vrod body. So you do need it if you want to use the carb cap, which you should.

But if you're buying the bundle, it already comes with the SiC dish so no need to worry.

Roth said:

Black Friday sale is going on now, through midnight tonight. Use the code "gibletgravy" for 15% off. I believe someone from NV said this would be the last sale of the year.

Just go to https://www.newvape.com/flowerpot-vrod-build-a-bundle and build your bundle. It will get you set up with everything you need.

Just select what size post you need for the bowl to fit your glass. Add any other options you want. I'd absolutely get the carb cap and a double weave Ti screen or two.

Then just select the right controller for your region/voltage. Don't select anything for the glass section if you already have your own.

It looks like the bundle already comes with the SiC dish. SiC stands for Silicon Carbide, and is the high end material that the bowl you dab off of is made out of. There is an option for a quartz dish as well in the parts page, but I would just skip it personally. SiC functions much better with the Vrod.


Jump on it today if you want 15% off!



I've never personally used the Vrod without the dish, but the new style carb cap won't fit without the dish. The new Vrod carb cap seals on the dish instead of the Vrod body. So you do need it if you want to use the carb cap, which you should.

But if you're buying the bundle, it already comes with the SiC dish so no need to worry.

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I wasn’t planning on buying the bundle just to save me some money. I was trying to just get the things I need to use it. Does the VROD not come with a dish on top that the carb cap can fit into? I had the enail controller, 20 mm enail, 14/18 mm female body with handle, and the carb cap in my cart ready to buy. But you are saying Without buying a separate SiC dish I won’t be able to use the carb cap at all? Or is it cheaper to just get the build a Fp bundle with the 20% off I have?

Ducksauce7 said:

I wasn’t planning on buying the bundle just to save me some money. I was trying to just get the things I need to use it. Does the VROD not come with a dish on top that the carb cap can fit into? I had the enail controller, 20 mm enail, 14/18 mm female body with handle, and the carb cap in my cart ready to buy. But you are saying Without buying a separate SiC dish I won’t be able to use the carb cap at all? Or is it cheaper to just get the build a Fp bundle with the 20% off I have?

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Are you buying

https://www.newvape.com/vrod-flowerpot-head ?

If so, it comes with the SiC dish already. They used to sell it with the option for no dish, but must have done away with that when the cap was redesigned to seal on the dish. You probably can't buy one without a dish anymore without a special order.

But correct, the new style Vrod carb cap requires a dish to seal and work correctly.

Your coupon applies to everything in your cart, doesn't matter if you buy the bundle or not.

You'll need some kind of stand to set the hot Vrod on. You can build your own, but you'll absolutely need something if you don't buy one from NV.