Someone needs to make a proper no flame portable vaporizer

audiodelic

audiodelic

... Boom Shiva !
Looking out for a portable vaporizer already own a VG presently and none of the available ones suit my need. Exclusively vaping hashish with more precise temperature control.

MFLB: Doesnt work well with hashish, mesh might get permanently blocked.

Iolite: The recommended brands of high quality butane cans are not found where i live. International shipping of butane is not allowed.

Supreme Vaporizer: I dont want to carry a torch when i fly international and want to take my vape along.

Volatizer VM3: Barely any reviews of this high priced product. So cant really get an idea of its performance. Only review i found was pretty bad .... http://www.herbalvaporizerreview.or...le-vaporizers/volatizer-vm3-vaporizer-review/

PhtyoLab: Gets too hot to hold

Someone needs to design a high quality/efficient portable vaporizer which is rechargeable like the volatizer vm3.

anybody have a recommendation of any other vape for me ?
 
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cogz756

Heady Oil head
just get any vape you want and get a converter that plugs into your cigarette lighter n there yah go:p thats what I do lol
 
cogz756,
Hippie Dickie

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
i keep thinking about a version of the Bud Toaster (battery powered) just for hash and oil. i can vape them in the existing model, with a different vial to hold the oil/hash/keif, but it could be so much smaller - say, 2" diameter by 1" high. Temperature control would be the same: up to 500F with 1F stability. ALL GLASS air path.

But that kind of design and development takes a lot of testing, and i don't have access to that much hash/oil. (if such a quantity even exists in the known world.) Yet another deferred HD project.
 
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lepstadder

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The supreme wouldnt be a good choice for traveling as the wood would be coated with thc residue from the vapor, and their is no way to clean it




make your own oil,you can get about 10% yield off of good sugar leaves

or even if you use shwag to make it

use either butane(prefered,by me anyway) or iso

iso is easier and cheaper and safer

and is almost as good
 
lepstadder,
max

max

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none of the available ones suit my need
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I'm sure that one day there'll be a portable on the market that'll satisfy you. Right now though, your needs comprise a very tiny market, and tiny markets don't drive innovation.

The supreme wouldnt be a good choice for traveling as the wood would be coated with thc residue from the vapor
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The OP already rejected the Supreme. As for the wood getting coated with residue, that's not an issue, at least it's never been for me. In fact I can't think of any vape I've used where the exterior has been in danger of getting "coated" with residue. Vapor usually stays in the vapor path for me.
 
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vapirtoo

vapirtoo

Well-Known Member
So what if the LB can't handle hash. It is right in the sweet spot for most herbs.
Check out blissville.com.:brow:
 
vapirtoo,
DevoTheStrange

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
vapirtoo said:
So what if the LB can't handle hash. It is right in the sweet spot for most herbs.
Check out blissville.com.:brow:
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yeah, but the OP only uses hash, therefore the LB is not suitable for their need.
 
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lepstadder

Well-Known Member
In fact I can't think of any vape I've used where the exterior has been in danger of getting "coated" with residue. Vapor usually stays in the vapor path for me.
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The vapor path of the supreme is partially the wooden housing so vapor would absorb into the porous material of the INTERIOR of the wood, making it impossible to clean, making it illegal to carry across borders...
 
lepstadder,
bluntfaced

bluntfaced

I'm El Diablo Baby!!!
There is a magic flight launch tube that supposedly vapes hash well. It looks very awkward and may not satisfy you but maybe you should check that out.
 
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audiodelic

audiodelic

... Boom Shiva !
Anyways ive been thinking a lot about a good portable vape. Ive almost decided to buy a Magic Flight Launch Box. I read many reviews where selected people have been using it with kief/hashish. Some have reported it doesnt work too well with hash oil/honey oil since that would be oily and would goo up and block the screen when you load too much in the trench. My hash is more dried resinous powdery hash if im a little extra careful and after reading some reports where people have been successful in vaping hashish with the MFLB.

Any inputs guys do y'all agree too its a risk worth taking if it might just work ?:peace:
 
audiodelic,
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finchrock24

Proud MMJ Patient
It does kief really really really well. So I'd imagine the the dryer, more course, compressed-kief types would be just fine. Just keep and eye on it and keep in mind you are not using the product as intended...so if it doesn't work, or you ruin the screen, don't be surprised. God speed!
 
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B.

B.

War Criminal
http://www.aqualabtechnologies.com/...ovations/nebula-portable-vaporizer-black.html

"This cutting-edge vaporizer features removable vials that you fill with your preferred smoking concentrate and then light from the outside with a torch-type windproof lighter. The hits are smooth and tasty every time. It works for vaping plant material as well, but the true benefit of the Nebula Essential VAAAPP is the ability to properly vaporize concentrates. "
 
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niall

niall

Well-Known Member
audiodelic said:
Iolite: The recommended brands of high quality butane cans are not found where i live.
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Which brands ARE available where you live? Surely someone's tried them before and can confirm if they work..?
 
niall,
audiodelic

audiodelic

... Boom Shiva !
niall said:
Which brands ARE available where you live? Surely someone's tried them before and can confirm if they work..?
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Where i live chillums are the majorly happening thing like the one in your avatar picture.

Crappy lighter filling butane should be available but i dont want to risk ruining an iolite cos of bad brand of butane refill.

Presently im inclining towards a MFLB.
 
audiodelic,
niall

niall

Well-Known Member
Never heard of poor quality butane *ruining* an iolite, it just doesn't burn efficiently and can leave residue. Simply purge and refill with good quality butane and it'll sort itself out. You'll know if it's poor butane within seconds.

It's worth pursuing, that's all I'm saying. I'm sure if you posted pictures or can details of brands we could help figure out if you've got a local supply. The iolite has literally changed my life. But heard great things about the MFLB too, hopefully the portable market heats up and we get more choices and the technology improves even further :)
 
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5446ThatsMyNumber

5446ThatsMyNumber

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I started vaping good quality hash from my MFLB, and at first didn't have too many problems. The hash would just tend to melt onto the screen. To get the residue off, I would insert a battery, heat up the trench, and brush off the residue with the small brush that comes along with it (the heat helps the residue come off).

After a couple of times doing that though, I think I started getting careless and began to brush too hard, ruining the seal between the trench and the MFLB wood. The screen also got a bit deformed, as if pressure was applied too hard in some areas, creating small dents (still works though). Now sometimes, when vaping herb, I think I get some particles in my mouth. Not too much of a biggy though, cause eventually those holes got clogged up with vaped herb.

Anyway, if you do choose to do so, just be careful with the delicate screen, and know that your trench will probably get messy after a couple of good uses.
 
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audiodelic

audiodelic

... Boom Shiva !
5446ThatsMyNumber said:
Anyway, if you do choose to do so, just be careful with the delicate screen, and know that your trench will probably get messy after a couple of good uses.
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Although the trench might get a little messy i hope it still continues to vaporize/work ?

Do all three sides the bottom and both the sides of the screen heat up ?
 
audiodelic,
5446ThatsMyNumber

5446ThatsMyNumber

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Yep, itll get a bit messy, but it will still work. You just need be really careful when it comes to cleaning it after every sesh.

Honestly, i'm sure there are better vapes out there for hashish. keep looking?

I'm not 100% sure on this, so ask on the MFLB thread, but from personal use I've seen that the bottom of the trench heats up the most. However, when i don't give a crap about conserving bud, and fill the whole trench, all my weed still toasts up nicely. So I do think the sides heat up, just not as much as the bottom.
 
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luchiano

luchiano

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5446ThatsMyNumber said:
I started vaping good quality hash from my MFLB, and at first didn't have too many problems. The hash would just tend to melt onto the screen. To get the residue off, I would insert a battery, heat up the trench, and brush off the residue with the small brush that comes along with it (the heat helps the residue come off).

After a couple of times doing that though, I think I started getting careless and began to brush too hard, ruining the seal between the trench and the MFLB wood. The screen also got a bit deformed, as if pressure was applied too hard in some areas, creating small dents (still works though). Now sometimes, when vaping herb, I think I get some particles in my mouth. Not too much of a biggy though, cause eventually those holes got clogged up with vaped herb.

Anyway, if you do choose to do so, just be careful with the delicate screen, and know that your trench will probably get messy after a couple of good uses.
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I wonder if breaking the hash up real good and then putting the bits on a nice thin rolling paper like RAW will prevent the hash from melting into the screen as well as keep cleaning easy because the paper will catch the oil before it hits the screen?.

Being that MFLB is part conduction vape this seems like it would work but I don't know. If you have hash and a good thin paper like RAW than you can try it out.
 
luchiano,
luchiano

luchiano

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I think it depends on the type of paper because most papers are made from wood pulp or hemp which means the papers are basically cellulose and that burns at 451f but rice papers are made from rice so they may have a different outcome. Elements rice papers leave no ash and are the only thin rice papers besides club papers but I think Elements are thinner.

I gotta try both rice and wood pulp papers out in a vaporizer and see what the differences are.
 
luchiano,
max

max

Out to lunch
lepstadder said:
In fact I can't think of any vape I've used where the exterior has been in danger of getting "coated" with residue. Vapor usually stays in the vapor path for me.
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The vapor path of the supreme is partially the wooden housing so vapor would absorb into the porous material of the INTERIOR of the wood, making it impossible to clean, making it illegal to carry across borders...
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There's no way to clean any vape to the point where all residue is removed except one with an all glass vapor path. Used vapes are safely shipped across borders all the time.


would the thin paper burn at 400F?
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With vaping temps you can use cotton as a bed for hash. 400 is a long way from combustion temp.
 
max,
luchiano

luchiano

Well-Known Member
max said:
lepstadder said:
In fact I can't think of any vape I've used where the exterior has been in danger of getting "coated" with residue. Vapor usually stays in the vapor path for me.
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The vapor path of the supreme is partially the wooden housing so vapor would absorb into the porous material of the INTERIOR of the wood, making it impossible to clean, making it illegal to carry across borders...
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would the thin paper burn at 400F?
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With vaping temps you can use cotton as a bed for hash. 400 is a long way from combustion temp.
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I don't know if cotton is good to use as a bed for vaping hash in a MFLB because the fibers are so thick that enough heat might not get to the hash at a quick enough time and you have to vape at a higher temperature and in a MFLB this may drain the battery quicker as well as get it too hot to touch after a while being that hash can vape longer than bud.

That is why I think a thin paper is better because it is thin enough for heat to get through fast as well as being uniform so the hash or oil can melt evenly and be heated evenly. I don't think you can buy cotton like that unless I'm not thinking about a certain kind.
 
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rediiiiiz

Account Closed
check out the NO2 by vapir.com - I just ordered mine today and can't wait to try it - I will drop by after I have properly vaped with it to let y'all know! :brow::D
 
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