Saionara Atomizer thread

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invertedisdead said:
Can it be cleaned to new between hits like a bucket though? Or does that take a solvent soak?
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It has a self clean mode (15 secs full heat), and can be fully disassembled and cleaned including the vape path. I think dumping it in ISO would get it back to new, and coils are reasonably priced. So between hits, the Sai would probably be the way to go I guess.

My bucket(s) don't even look close to new, and i've only used them a few times (both ti and quartz). This is more of a maintenance nightmare than my d-nail sic halo! The reclaim is in the top cap/mouthpiece parts. I have clean everything from last night before I even use it, and I didn't even run that many bowls. Mostly swabbing/wasting oil.
 
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JCat said:
The CF710 isn't a bucket though correct? It's a coil? (ie. have not found any that deal well with rosin and the waxes therein. Maybe once I have my vacuum oven setup so I can winterize it and remove the waxes, but not with the waxes in there)

I actually find the DTv3 to be quite easy to setup. The issue is more the mods ... I haven't really found any device that doesn't require tweaking with the mod as the mods are built to support all 510 devices not a single specific one;

Most people it's just a matter of running an installer to install NFETools as most have access to Windows PC's! :lol: Than installing the firmware is a breeze.

It may work quite well with the stock Pico firmware too ... I don't know as I never tried; I already had ArcticFox installed from all my prior devices I've tried (Source Vapes 510 attachment, DTv3, DT QQ, ...)

For cleaning my quartz bowl, I've just been using q-tips and distilled water (mine's still spotless, but you know how obsessive I am about keeping my stuff clean! :lol: )

Edit: As well, the Pico may well be the problem here ... I believe those with higher quality mods like the DNA boxes they may just work "out of the box"? ... (I'm just spit-balling here as I really don't have any idea as the Pico 75 is all I've ever owned so far as it's met my needs to-date)
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My experience exactly. real easy to hit TCR#'s They are in stock & on sale at Puffitup.com Free Ship & 15% off returning customers

https://www.puffitup.com/Saionara-Quartz-Bucket-Coil-p/sz.113-sai_tafcoil-qtzbkt.htm
 
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florduh said:
That's because the thing just works. Especially the Top Air Flow with Ti Bucket. Most reliable, easiest portable vape I've ever used.

Throw their bubbler on it and you have a better "portable e-nail" than almost anything else on the market.
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Hi you doing buddy,
Crossing some Sai stuff till the new Mole cup system comes in.
looks promising for both atty's with Quartz Inserts.

 
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tennisguru1 said:
My experience exactly. real easy to hit TCR#'s They are in stock & on sale at Puffitup.com Free Ship & 15% off returning customers
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I've tried TCR, Ni mode, up to 45w 550f, is there ANYTHING else I could be doing wrong? The pico 75w works flawless, it's not the mod.... bottom airflow closed top barely open. It cooks the dab, boils, yet i can get barely a wisp of vapour. This is an extremely common complaint if you google it, all over reddit.

Would love for this to work properly... this is the SECOND time i've purchased and feel like i've wasted my money on a gimmick.
 
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tennisguru1 said:
Hi you doing buddy,
Crossing some Sai stuff till the new Mole cup system comes in.
looks promising for both atty's with Quartz Inserts.

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Nice! Did you see that you can use the TAF Sai top cap on the Molecule's water piece adapter base? Should result in better airflow. But it would also be easier to pull the cap on and off. I haven't gotten any spitback, with the Sai top would eliminate that as well.
 
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florduh said:
Nice! Did you see that you can use the TAF Sai top cap on the Molecule's water piece adapter base? Should result in better airflow. But it would also be easier to pull the cap on and off. I haven't gotten any spitback, with the Sai top would eliminate that as well.
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Yes, I have a nice Video of that, lol
 
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biohacker said:
I've tried TCR, Ni mode, up to 45w 550f, is there ANYTHING else I could be doing wrong? The pico 75w works flawless, it's not the mod.... bottom airflow closed top barely open. It cooks the dab, boils, yet i can get barely a wisp of vapour. This is an extremely common complaint if you google it, all over reddit.

Would love for this to work properly... this is the SECOND time i've purchased and feel like i've wasted my money on a gimmick.
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Really sorry you are having such a bad experience.
Were you able to use a TCR#'ed Slot M1 ? 315
If you use the Ni setting (it's not Ni Wire) way to hot & inconstant.
The TCR # will allow to use the 40 watt setting & it will level off at 18-22
to maintain temp.
Wish I had your setup in my hand, 5 mins and I can have it humming
for you. I just set up a friend in town on a gold istick pico 75
He already melted the legs off his heater donut following some lame instructions.
 
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florduh said:
Don't use Ti mode! The bucket is Ti but the actual donut heater is Nickel.

But if you can set TCR to 315... that should do it. .723 ohms for the resistance is good. Lock that.

30 watts is good to start with. I usually start hitting it after 3 seconds... a nice long draw should do it.
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I find with the Ti cup set watts @37 with a preheat 2 seconds at
125% gets to temp 380-440 for nice taste & no burning & almost no
reclaim after 3-5 15 sec pulls. clean to shinny new with water pulse.
I am using the new heater that come with the QC for both Ti & QC.
That way settings stay the same just adjust temps to 400-480
Quartz takes 3 -5 sec for thick vapor as the Ti takes 2 sec with same
settings (More efficient heater)

I'm getting the new Molecule Quartz Cup inserts today to lay on top
of their SS coils I'm guessing. I've used the Sai Cups in the Mole already.
Not too bad, but no where near how good they work in the Sai itself.
Hoping the ones are somehow fixed.

Anyone get the new mouthpiece yet? Does it make a difference?
Lol, at $20 it cost as much as the Mole it self.
This thing is no longer a cheap $35 atty any more.
I'm still using my own glass mouthpiece that blows away that little
tit of a mouthpiece that comes with it..
If you get a Mole with 22 mm adapter (useless without it) & new
mouthpiece the quartz cup inserts cost is now like at retail is $40
+ 10 + 10 + 20 discount is no $80. normal discount is AVS15%
WOW! That got costly quick, lol.

Makes my Sai not only a much better deal, I can get 2 TAF Sai's
one TI & one QC complete for $66 from Puffitup every day of the week.
But I still really like my Mole for the only coil vape I even use.
I ordered a few BF Sale SS ones for $25 as holiday gifts to my
buds that have Sai's & QQ see what they think as most of them
are used to hassling with coils & all that messy shit.
 
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arthritisbites said:
Does it matter that the body isn’t titanium? What does a titanium body do for you that stainless steel doesn’t?
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It's just much lighter in weight.
Also looks really cool as you can change the color & do fun stuff with looks.
I use my Sai as a home vapor station replace all old school shit.
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This is Ti Sai heat tempered to match Pico :>
 
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tennisguru1 said:
It's just much lighter in weight.
Also looks really cool as you can change the color & do fun stuff with looks.
I use my Sai as a home vapor station replace all old school shit.
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This is Ti Sai heat tempered to match Pico :>
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Are you serious? You are talking to a woman that loves to accessorize...I could match every outfit! :lol: And now I’m a little sad because I already ordered the Joyetech espion 200w Based on Reddit’s instructions, and it’s not going to be nearly as cute! Shoot.

The weight might actually make a difference to me as I sometimes have difficulties with my hands, So I guess I’ll wait until the titanium is back in stock. Maybe HVT will extend their $44.99 deal on the titanium set up since they were out of stock so fast (pretty please with sugar on top?)
 
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arthritisbites said:
Are you serious? You are talking to a woman that loves to accessorize...I could match every outfit! :lol: And now I’m a little sad because I already ordered the Joyetech espion 200w Based on Reddit’s instructions, and it’s not going to be nearly as cute! Shoot.

The weight might actually make a difference to me as I sometimes have difficulties with my hands, So I guess I’ll wait until the titanium is back in stock. Maybe HVT will extend their $44.99 deal on the titanium set up since they were out of stock so fast (pretty please with sugar on top?)
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Did you get the Gunmetal Espion?

I love my Espion, I'm stuck with blue one (Girlfriend fell in love with my Gunmetal)

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Gunmetal Treated Ti

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arthritisbites said:
Are you serious? You are talking to a woman that loves to accessorize...I could match every outfit! :lol: And now I’m a little sad because I already ordered the Joyetech espion 200w Based on Reddit’s instructions, and it’s not going to be nearly as cute! Shoot.

The weight might actually make a difference to me as I sometimes have difficulties with my hands, So I guess I’ll wait until the titanium is back in stock. Maybe HVT will extend their $44.99 deal on the titanium set up since they were out of stock so fast (pretty please with sugar on top?)
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Just send off an email to Vic, he will take care of you.
here is a SS heat treated one by someone, so it can be done
Doesn't look as cool as the Ti Treated one thou...

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tennisguru1 said:
Just send off an email to Vic, he will take care of you.
here is a SS heat treated one by someone, so it can be done
Doesn't look as cool as the Ti Treated one thou...

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You are right, it doesn’t look as cool. I got the black espion, do you significantly like the Pico’s performance more than the espion’s? Good idea to email Regarding the sale, I’ll do that now.

Edit: What are peoples opinions on the Poseidon? You can’t use it with the TAF, correct?
 
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arthritisbites said:
You are right, it doesn’t look as cool. I got the black espion, do you significantly like the Pico’s performance more than the espion’s? Good idea to email Regarding the sale, I’ll do that now.

Edit: What are peoples opinions on the Poseidon? You can’t use it with the TAF, correct?
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The Espion 200 is the "SHITS" Better than any under $130 mod with Red Panda installed.
Want to get a great deal & combo check this out

ProductSKUPriceQuantityTotalPoseidon V2 Bubbler by HVT - Add SS adapter$ 44.951$ 44.9515mm Molecule RDA (Oil / Concentrate) - Stainless Steel$ 39.991$ 39.99Subtotal$ 55.22BlackFriday Discount$ -29.72Shipping (Free First Class Shipping (3-5 days))$ 0.00Total$ 55.22 USD

You get the Mole + PosidonV2 to use with Sai & great new Mole.
35% off still.
I use both back & forth interchangeable & 2 of the easiest to get a great tasting hit off of, lol.
That's what the Pico is good for, takes a lot less juice than Sai.
PS That's my cart
https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/products/molecule-rebuildable-dab-atomizer
https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/products/poseidon-v2-bubbler-by-hvt?variant=13567106121763

November 23, 2018 09:58AM

Product SKU Price Quantity Total
Poseidon V2 Bubbler by HVT - Add SS adapter $ 44.95 1 $ 44.95
15mm Molecule RDA (Oil / Concentrate) - Stainless Steel $ 39.99 1 $ 39.99
Subtotal $ 55.22
BlackFriday Discount $ -29.72
Shipping (Free First Class Shipping (3-5 days)) $ 0.00
Total $ 55.22 USD
 
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tennisguru1 said:
The Espion 200 is the "SHITS" Better than any under $130 mod with Red Panda installed.
Want to get a great deal & combo check this out

ProductSKUPriceQuantityTotalPoseidon V2 Bubbler by HVT - Add SS adapter$ 44.951$ 44.9515mm Molecule RDA (Oil / Concentrate) - Stainless Steel$ 39.991$ 39.99Subtotal$ 55.22BlackFriday Discount$ -29.72Shipping (Free First Class Shipping (3-5 days))$ 0.00Total$ 55.22 USD

You get the Mole + PosidonV2 to use with Sai & great new Mole.
35% off still.
I use both back & forth interchangeable & 2 of the easiest to get a great tasting hit off of, lol.
That's what the Pico is good for, takes a lot less juice than Sai.
PS That's my cart
https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/products/molecule-rebuildable-dab-atomizer
https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/products/poseidon-v2-bubbler-by-hvt?variant=13567106121763

November 23, 2018 09:58AM

Product SKU Price Quantity Total
Poseidon V2 Bubbler by HVT - Add SS adapter $ 44.95 1 $ 44.95
15mm Molecule RDA (Oil / Concentrate) - Stainless Steel $ 39.99 1 $ 39.99
Subtotal $ 55.22
BlackFriday Discount $ -29.72
Shipping (Free First Class Shipping (3-5 days)) $ 0.00
Total $ 55.22 USD
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That is a good deal, and I went and looked at some of the videos on replacing coils and I’m just not there yet. Vic got more stock in and honored the sale price so I’ve got a Sai coming my way!
 
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I'm thinking of getting the Sai TAF + Pico deal they have right now on Puffitup. Is the Pico good to run the Sai, or do you think I'll regret the Pico and want something better very soon?
 
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I'm pretty tempted by the Sai and Molecule but still have the feeling that there already is much room for improvements. They are getting better and better but all seem to have still some lacks. Maybe one year until there'll come a pen/wax atomizer that is all-in-all working fine?
 
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Ramahs said:
I'm thinking of getting the Sai TAF + Pico deal they have right now on Puffitup. Is the Pico good to run the Sai, or do you think I'll regret the Pico and want something better very soon?
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It depends on your habits & requirements.
If you only session 4-6 times a day & stealth out (smallness)
then pico fine, get a spare battery & charger.
I love my Espion 200 for color screen, dual battery & small for dual.
Big color screen, I use pico for carts now, loses power too fast.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/9624258
https://humboldtvapetech.com/product/titanium-sai-titanium-taf-cap-titanium-bucket/
 
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