heavy hitter plug in recommendations?

I've been away here for a while, and haven't been following which new vapes came out since.
now VAS is setting in a bit again.
what I'm missing is a nice heavy hitter vape I think. I'm just past the peak of my harvest season, so plenty of weed available, so I don't need it to be efficient. just want something that can really blast me into space. and be easy enough to use that I can still hit it after I'm blasted.
I also want to be able to order it from within europe(schengen), so I don't risk it getting held it up in customs and paying a lot just to receive it, and so I can pay without any extra bank charges.
would also be nice if it's easy to clean, and if it can be connected to a 14 mm GonG so I can use it trough my ehle bong.

I already have:
-an underdog (doesn't hit that hard anymore, getting a bit old and the plug is wobly and often loses connection, it's getting pretty old by now, probably should get it fixed up with a new core someday since it's still an older model core with ceramic resistor, but that would mean a lot of hassle with sending it to the US from europe and not having any plug in type vape for at least a month, it's still my most used vape)

-arizer air

-dynavap M

-(vaporgenie) (brackets because it's technically mine, but I wasn't using it, so a friend has it)

Vapexhale Cloud Evo
or
NewVape Flowerpot Showerhead

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Herborizer TI (with or whitout the bubbler, based in France)

I’ll second NewVape FlowerPot, if doing any concentrates should getthe VROD, otherwise the ShowerHead. You should not only order an adjustabowl, but also a glass bowl and double weave screens. FlowerPot rocks!

When I encounter the question of what next, I just consider eating too many edibles. Like way too many.

But yeah, Flowerpot/Herborizer/Glass Symphony, etc. are basically the end of our vape rainbow.

thanks for the suggestions, going to look into the ones mentioned so far.

since I see concentrates coming up, forgot to mention I'm looking for something for flower. I do turn my trim into bubblehash, but that's just a little. and oil isn't really a thing here, have never seen it for sale anywhere, we only get imported(mostly moroccon) hash and sometimes overpriced ice-o-lator here.

When I encounter the question of what next, I just consider eating too many edibles. Like way too many.

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eh, edibles aren't really my thing, effect is too variable. I do them once or twice a year, usually somewhere around this time of year, with trim, before I turn the rest into hash. but somehow I have a higher tolerance for edibles as for smoking/vaping, I often have to eat a little past the point where I'm full and eating more is uncomfortable. and I only do it with a group(the few times I tried edibles alone I didn't feel much).
for me with edibles set/setting matters a lot(way more as for regular smoking/vaping), sometimes I get a really good time out of it, another time I may have a way higher dose and I just feel very slightly relaxed, nothing more. last time was with a housemate(student house) and his friends, 2 people puked and after that the mood was pretty ruined. one guy was still going bad and couldn't handle loud sounds, so we couldn't turn on music or talk too loud. with that setting I felt barely anything, while I had eaten plenty(the pie was even stronger as planned, causing the 2 pukers).

I'd suggest Venus Helios.

'Plenty'
Unlike any other on the market!

NV Fowerpot Showerhead and Herborizer Ti would be my top 2 recommendations.
Both amazing desktops with supreme extraction capablity, excellent flavour, the highest quality vapor quality (and medical effects/benefits of any other devices I have tried).

The Flowerpot is far more popular and well known, better marketed so you will likely hear more shouts for that system in general, across the board.

The Herbo Ti is still largely unknown, and is arguably the best desktop in the world that is still so widely undiscovered. It has slightly better taste and slightly stronger effects for most, but both are so close in this department.
I love both of these vapes for sheer ease of use, brilliant effects, high quality, smooth tasty vapor. And dont underestimate the medical effectiveness factor of certain devices when deciding on your purchase.
I am adamant that certain vaporizers are much more efficient at delivering the medicinal compounds in a more useful and effective state, and these two have impressed me the most in this regard.

I also tested briefly the EVO and Glass Symphony, but based on those brief impressions I was not nearly as impressed with these two devices but did not have much time with them to be fair.

I've been reading about some of the vapes mentioned, leaning towards the herborizer.

it seems like I would only need the Ti heater+glass injector+glass bowl, making it significantly cheaper as the others. if I understand the system correctly, the herborizer power supply is just a simple 12 volt power supply, and the temp regulator a dimmer, so I could just use the VVPS I already have for my underdog. anyone can confirm that?

I’ve looked at the Herborizer and at some point will likely purchase one, the point that gets me is with the FlowerPot there is not anything that will stop it from working for me. I have more than one PID, more than one coil and more than one glass piece. I suppose I could purchase similar redundancy when I purchase the Herborizer, but the fact that it i appears more fragile concerns me. It would be near impossible for me to lose the use of my FlowerPot and that is by my and NewVapes design.

YaMon said:

I’ve looked at the Herborizer and at some point will likely purchase one, the point that gets me is with the FlowerPot there is not anything that will stop it from working for me. I have more than one PID, more than one coil and more than one glass piece. I suppose I could purchase similar redundancy when I purchase the Herborizer, but the fact that it i appears more fragile concerns me. It would be near impossible for me to lose the use of my FlowerPot and that is by my and NewVapes design.

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I hear you and indeed a valid concern, except regarding the analogue Ti, since it's release in May 2017, I I'm yet to hear of a single unit failing or needing repair in any way except the very cheap €12 glass connector needing replacing occasionally. And very easy to order one or two spares with the kit so that you are covered.

I do actually see the Herborizer Ti model as being extremely robust and reliable by the nature of its build. My friend Dave has my ex analogue since June 2017, still running like clockwork.

And he also has the XL version, used practically every day since 2011, running up to 12 hours plus and no sight of an issue.

So they are well built and dependable devices and Sebastien stand behind his products with a virtual lifetime warranty and a big smile.

@djonkoman Im really not sure whether or not your VVPS will work. You would have to ask Seb. My gut feeling is that it won't work but I hope Im wrong.

Ask the same q in the Herborizer thread here. There will be some clever members there who could probably tell you for sure, otherwise send an email to Sebastien but he may be busy and take a while to get back to you but he sure will.

You may need to buy the analogue "system" which for €289 provides everything you would need to fit to your own water tools except the stand for the heater which is separate, but you can use your own makeshift stand of some sorts as many do.

ejackyou said:

'Plenty'

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I would agree, nothing much comes close to vaping 1-1.2 gram of bud at once if you want to get hit hard and fast or slow and steady...to bong or not to bong, that is the only question.
Near Bulletproof as well and always seems to be reducing in price whenever I see it.

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LesPlenty said:

I would agree, nothing much comes close to vaping 1-1.2 gram of bud at once if you want to get hit hard and fast or slow and steady...to bong or not to bong, that is the only question.
Near Bulletproof as well and always seems to be reducing in price whenever I see it.

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Don't know about price, But I've found it pays to shop around. The Plenty has been around
a long time, not the latest Fad, Once You learn just How to Use it Properly You realize what
Genius there is to the design, most Don't, for them it's a waste of money?
After checking out the internet, I went to my local 'brick and mortar' shop who's been in the
business for Years, his price on the Plenty was the Best!
Simple to use, easy to maintain, built to last a lifetime.
Nothing compares on the market - for what it's Designed to Do, that is!

I had the herborizer Ti and can not recommend it enough unfortunately. I would go with the LSV over the Ti any day! Trust me on this i live in europe also and the LSV with DDave method is so much better than the Ti for flowers. It's cheaper and just hits much harder and better. You just need to apply the DDave method look up the thread of the LSV for that. Otherwise i would recommend the Minivap or Flowerpot.

VapeReady said:

I would go with the LSV

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I have also heard this is a great hard hitter, like a big log vape on steroids that is great for flower and concentrates, it looks cool too.

i had a lsv back in the day and it is a hard hitter for sure with really good taste..that was without the ddave actually before the ddave aswell..but the evo is a great hard hitter..super easy..less exposed hot parts than some.

VapeReady said:

I had the herborizer Ti and can not recommend it enough unfortunately. I would go with the LSV over the Ti any day! Trust me on this i live in europe also and the LSV with DDave method is so much better than the Ti for flowers. It's cheaper and just hits much harder and better. You just need to apply the DDave method look up the thread of the LSV for that. Otherwise i would recommend the Minivap or Flowerpot.

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Interesting, to develop.
I had never considered the LSV because it seems both fragile and unwieldy, big enough.
I did not consider his performances but I am intrigued by your comment.

I also say lsv a definite heavy hitter and much more durable than it appears.
I prefer mine through water using a male to male 18.8MM adapter.
PuffItUp has them and if you have a coupon the prices are amazing!

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