AVS Molecule RDA

tennisguru1 · Oct 21, 2018

florduh said:
Yeah, I did notice that. I think he's in NorCal and may have some kind of hookup with extractors. I pay for every gram I vape. True, a lot of my shatter is purchased in "bulk" at $20/gram, but I'm also buying sauce and the like for $40+ a gram. I tend to load quite conservatively. Somehow my tolerance is still quite low. I can't really "hang" with my combusting friends when they pass me a joint. One puff and I can't drive for an hour.

Somehow I still can smoke a joint ,(get so many free pre rolls) and it is
such a different high and knowing I can go back to my vape later, lol.
What I do to my "Smokin Buds who claim that they don't get high on those
vapes very well" . That's because I am trying to show them how nice it taste.
Well I gave up on that shit, I just say now so that low temp dab stuff is too
weak for you , Well I pass them the Sai with Kantrall & Black Ceramic coils
(got it with used Sai on FC) and a .2 and set it on 25 power watts mode.
They proceed to blow their brains out, coughing fits, rolling on the floor
and after about 15 minutes cries can I hang out a bit longer I can't drive
in this condition, LOL!!!
Now I can just get them a Mole & they can have nice strong hits of wax.
Without the coughting fits & get the better head and body high.

I still need to pick up a quartz Sai bucket. Do you notice the heat up time is longer than the Ti? Is there a big taste improvement over Ti? Do you get oil creeping up the bucket walls?

Ready to hit in 3 seconds , hit it for the whole 15 so nice.
Have to run more thru it first to tell.
Did you get the Quartz Cups with your Mole?
I am going to try then in a Sai atty now, as I just fit
one perfectly.
The bottom of both looked pressed on flat with 2
pieces of glass?? Very thin, 1/3 thickness of my China ones (Too Thick)
AVS ones (they are scraping) are way shorter, so they would spill over
i would think. The Sai ones are much deeper (my china ones were 2x Sai's)
never spilled but took forever to heat, lol.

The Pinnacle Water Tool from the Sunshine Store is perfect with black Mole.
Just slides in from bottom & disappears , lol.

tennisguru1 · Oct 21, 2018

florduh said:
Yeah, I did notice that. I think he's in NorCal and may have some kind of hookup with extractors. I pay for every gram I vape. True, a lot of my shatter is purchased in "bulk" at $20/gram, but I'm also buying sauce and the like for $40+ a gram. I tend to load quite conservatively. Somehow my tolerance is still quite low. I can't really "hang" with my combusting friends when they pass me a joint. One puff and I can't drive for an hour.

I still need to pick up a quartz Sai bucket. Do you notice the heat up time is longer than the Ti? Is there a big taste improvement over Ti? Do you get oil creeping up the bucket walls?

https://www.dhgate.com/product/pinn...lunt/184494946.html#myaccount_history-16-null
It's awesome with the Mole.
The adapter is my little $1 gem 14mm Black
Goes over Mole mouthpiece straight into PWT

invertedisdead · Oct 21, 2018

My molecule is supposed to come tomorrow, I hate exposed coils but I might have to try it after @florduh good word. Not sure if any of the v1 quartz bowls will be in or not, my tracking says they weren't shipped, could be a place holder for the revised version maybe.

florduh · Oct 22, 2018

tennisguru1 said:
Ready to hit in 3 seconds , hit it for the whole 15 so nice.

Nice. That sounds quite similar to the Ti Bucket.

invertedisdead said:
My molecule is supposed to come tomorrow, I hate exposed coils but I might have to try it after @florduh good word. Not sure if any of the v1 quartz bowls will be in or not, my tracking says they weren't shipped, could be a place holder for the revised version maybe.

Yeah I'd say give it a whirl, since the finished quartz crucible solution isn't quite ready.

When you get it, watch the first video here to get the coils read:

https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/pages/molecule-rda-videos

My suggestion is to treat it like a crucible. Load a small amount each time. Every couple loads, Q-tip the bowl. I turn it sideways and fire for a second or two, and use a q-tip to clean up the reclaim. You can even Q-tip the coils. I more or less follow the cleaning instructions in the manual. For a deep clean, a hot ISO bath and dry fire gets it back to new. I do it a little more than once per week. It doesn't take much time/effort.

I never liked coiled atomizers, but I'm really enjoying this thing. It eliminated most of the drawbacks of coils, and gives you smooth tasty hits in 6 seconds or less.

I use TFR 316, 17 watts, resistance locked at room temp.

Samson · Oct 22, 2018

tennisguru1 said:
https://www.dhgate.com/product/pinn...lunt/184494946.html#myaccount_history-16-null
It's awesome with the Mole.
The adapter is my little $1 gem 14mm Black
Goes over Mole mouthpiece straight into PWT

I haven't used my PWT in a long time. Decided to get it out and clean it in prep from my mole arriving later today per your rec. Was pouring some iso on it and it slipped and broke! Bummer. Oh well, still excited about the mole and will get another PWT I guess or try it with another piece I have.

What is the $1 adapter you're referring to?

tennisguru1 · Oct 22, 2018

Samson said:
I haven't used my PWT in a long time. Decided to get it out and clean it in prep from my mole arriving later today per your rec. Was pouring some iso on it and it slipped and broke! Bummer. Oh well, still excited about the mole and will get another PWT I guess or try it with another piece I have.

What is the $1 adapter you're referring to?

https://www.dhgate.com/product/pinn...lunt/184494946.html#myaccount_history-16-null
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3017/10013349/3901308
https://www.fasttech.com/products/7192000
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DYAFIU0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These two little gems fit together perfectly for quick connect to
most 14mm & with Silicone whip hose can go to any 18mm glass piece.

Deserttinker · Oct 23, 2018

@florduh I just received my Molecule. What settings and temperature did you use with CBD isolate? So far what I’ve done has given me nothing with a “light, neutral flavor” as you mention above, more like toxic smoke... :huh:

florduh · Oct 23, 2018

Deserttinker said:
@florduh I just received my Molecule. What settings and temperature did you use with CBD isolate? So far what I’ve done has given me nothing with a “light, neutral flavor” as you mention above, more like toxic smoke...

SS316 TFR (or Stainless Steel mode), resistance locked at room temp (.39 ohm +/- .03), 17-20 watts, 360 degrees-400. With isolate, start with 360.

Also did you follow the instructions in the manual for "seasoning" the coil? There's also an easy to follow video here:

https://www.advancedvapesupply.com/pages/molecule-rda-videos

Deserttinker · Oct 23, 2018

Thank for the quick reply. Yes, followed the manual/setup video, super easy to get it all set. Will try resetting everything tomorrow. I’m sure I just missed a setting. New to all this, so lots to learn.

Samson · Oct 23, 2018

tennisguru1 said:
https://www.dhgate.com/product/pinn...lunt/184494946.html#myaccount_history-16-null
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3017/10013349/3901308
https://www.fasttech.com/products/7192000
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DYAFIU0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These two little gems fit together perfectly for quick connect to
most 14mm & with Silicone whip hose can go to any 18mm glass piece.

Thanks again @tennisguru1. Any chance you can share some pics of your setup with these various parts?

Got mine yesterday, initial thoughts:

Got version one of the buckets. Haven't touched the buckets yet as the coil itself is really really good with no metallic taste yet that I can discern. This little thing exceeded my high expectations. Its small but looks great on the evic basic. Looking forward for a bigger one but this size is great on the go and its very very efficient. Taste is coming out really terpy and flavorful, it hasn't been harsh at all, quote surprising actually. Not even sure yet it needs to run through water, its that smooth.

I think because of the size and the quartz its a bit delicate. If you watch the videos and follow them it shouldn't break at all. It comes with extra parts anyway. I think thats going to be a tradeoff that may be necessary due to the nature of the innovation being that the coil is in the quarts bowl and quartz by nature is very fragile. I think the larger version they are planning will be more sturdy and user-friendly.

I'll try to share more thoughts once I've spent more time with it.

tennisguru1 · Oct 23, 2018

Samson said:
Thanks again @tennisguru1. Any chance you can share some pics of your setup with these various parts?

Got mine yesterday, initial thoughts:

Got version one of the buckets. Haven't touched the buckets yet as the coil itself is really really good with no metallic taste yet that I can discern. This little thing exceeded my high expectations. Its small but looks great on the evic basic. Looking forward for a bigger one but this size is great on the go and its very very efficient. Taste is coming out really terpy and flavorful, it hasn't been harsh at all, quote surprising actually. Not even sure yet it needs to run through water, its that smooth.

I think because of the size and the quartz its a bit delicate. If you watch the videos and follow them it shouldn't break at all. It comes with extra parts anyway. I think thats going to be a tradeoff that may be necessary due to the nature of the innovation being that the coil is in the quarts bowl and quartz by nature is very fragile. I think the larger version they are planning will be more sturdy and user-friendly.

I'll try to share more thoughts once I've spent more time with it.

tennisguru1 said:
Ready to hit in 3 seconds , hit it for the whole 15 so nice.
Have to run more thru it first to tell.
Did you get the Quartz Cups with your Mole?
I am going to try then in a Sai atty now, as I just fit
one perfectly.
The bottom of both looked pressed on flat with 2
pieces of glass?? Very thin, 1/3 thickness of my China ones (Too Thick)
AVS ones (they are scraping) are way shorter, so they would spill over
i would think. The Sai ones are much deeper (my china ones were 2x Sai's)
never spilled but took forever to heat, lol.

The Pinnacle Water Tool from the Sunshine Store is perfect with black Mole.
Just slides in from bottom & disappears , lol.

Pinnacle Water Tools with Tennisguru 1's all black silicone adapter
I never take off the top piece to load. Just oils the o-rings and it pops right off.
By screwing down very tight to a heatsink I can move it to any atty, with no cracking
or trauma , just move the whole thing to a pico.
I use virgin organic olive oil on the O-rings . The Mod is the Evic Two mini
running myevic (forerunner of aAF) a 20 second press for coming soon Quartz cup.

tennisguru1 · Oct 23, 2018

Samson said:
Thanks again @tennisguru1. Any chance you can share some pics of your setup with these various parts?

Got mine yesterday, initial thoughts:

Got version one of the buckets. Haven't touched the buckets yet as the coil itself is really really good with no metallic taste yet that I can discern. This little thing exceeded my high expectations. Its small but looks great on the evic basic. Looking forward for a bigger one but this size is great on the go and its very very efficient. Taste is coming out really terpy and flavorful, it hasn't been harsh at all, quote surprising actually. Not even sure yet it needs to run through water, its that smooth.

I think because of the size and the quartz its a bit delicate. If you watch the videos and follow them it shouldn't break at all. It comes with extra parts anyway. I think thats going to be a tradeoff that may be necessary due to the nature of the innovation being that the coil is in the quarts bowl and quartz by nature is very fragile. I think the larger version they are planning will be more sturdy and user-friendly.

I'll try to share more thoughts once I've spent more time with it.

OK cool
I just posted a pic of PWT with a whip I go to D020 nicely
Total cost for adapter under $1
So hard for me to post pics here
what do you suggest?
I had to post on reddit to get it to hear, lol
I got tons of Vids & Pics , but Utube blocks us now.
I can save everyone a lot of time & money with these adapters
& the fun clean easy hook ups they can make you so much more flexible.

florduh · Oct 23, 2018

Samson said:
Not even sure yet it needs to run through water, its that smooth.

That is my experience as well. I can barely feel anything on the inhale, but I exhale huge tasty clouds. Not sure if I'm going to run this thing through water. I'll decide after their adjustable airflow top comes out.

Keep it relatively clean with a q-tip in between ISO baths, and you'll keep getting tasty hits.

subway13029 · Oct 23, 2018

I got great flavor in wattage mode but when I went to temp I got a few hot hits and then stuff wasn’t tasting to good..that’s my fear with coils that if you accidentally go to hot then it’s kimda crappy after that..I had it at 400 and 20 Watts..on tc...I cranked it down and got good hits but didn’t taste good.. I didn’t strum my coil as hard as he’d did in the vids so I wonder if my coil hitting uneven..?

wall · Oct 23, 2018

Got mine yesterday and dig it, haven't played with it enough but other then a little tinkering to get it set up I dig it, this is the first unit like this I have ever owned for concentrate and I don't mind it at all

florduh · Oct 23, 2018

subway13029 said:
I got great flavor in wattage mode but when I went to temp I got a few hot hits and then stuff wasn’t tasting to good..that’s my fear with coils that if you accidentally go to hot then it’s kimda crappy after that..I had it at 400 and 20 Watts..on tc...I cranked it down and got good hits but didn’t taste good.. I didn’t strum my coil as hard as he’d did in the vids so I wonder if my coil hitting uneven..?

I think 400 is too hot for most materials. What ohms are your coils reading at?

al bundy · Oct 23, 2018

What’s difference between the Evic two mini and the Elsa’s Pico 75
I read a lot about flashing AF firmware for these mods
Does the Evic and Eleaf be flashed the same for this if needed?
Only because I see the Pico readily available not so much with the Evic

Will be using the SAI or Mole Or Yocan dish/dcoil

florduh · Oct 23, 2018

al bundy said:
What’s difference between the Evic two mini and the Elsa’s Pico 75
I read a lot about flashing AF firmware for these mods
Does the Evic and Eleaf be flashed the same for this if needed?
Only because I see the Pico readily available not so much with the Evic

I'm pretty sure both of those mods are Arctic Fox compatible. You don't NEED AF to make the Molecule, or anything else, work. But I feel it gives you more accurate temp control, and gives you some fun customization potential.

Samson · Oct 23, 2018

tennisguru1 said:
Pinnacle Water Tools with Tennisguru 1's all black silicone adapter
I never take off the top piece to load. Just oils the o-rings and it pops right off.
By screwing down very tight to a heatsink I can move it to any atty, with no cracking
or trauma , just move the whole thing to a pico.
I use virgin organic olive oil on the O-rings . The Mod is the Evic Two mini
running myevic (forerunner of aAF) a 20 second press for coming soon Quartz cup.

Wonderful, thanks for the pic! I get it now lol.

florduh said:
That is my experience as well. I can barely feel anything on the inhale, but I exhale huge tasty clouds. Not sure if I'm going to run this thing through water. I'll decide after their adjustable airflow top comes out.

Keep it relatively clean with a q-tip in between ISO baths, and you'll keep getting tasty hits.

yeah first time I tried it I thought something was messed up and then I exhaled some nice clouds and it tasted great! lol

subway13029 said:
I got great flavor in wattage mode but when I went to temp I got a few hot hits and then stuff wasn’t tasting to good..that’s my fear with coils that if you accidentally go to hot then it’s kimda crappy after that..I had it at 400 and 20 Watts..on tc...I cranked it down and got good hits but didn’t taste good.. I didn’t strum my coil as hard as he’d did in the vids so I wonder if my coil hitting uneven..?

I flashed my evic basic with arctic fox and its working well, I can't imagine getting it right in wattage mode. I think it is almost guaranteed to get too hot. One of my AF profiles is in wattage mode and I use it to prepare the coil, it gets so hot and I'd have to really have amazing pulse timing to make it work.

al bundy · Oct 23, 2018

thanks
And where can I get the heat sink from?

florduh · Oct 23, 2018

I feel like mine all just appeared somehow. I'd try eBay or Fasttech Someone else might have to chime in. But I don't rock a heatsink with the Molecule. You're taking quick hits so it never gets that hot. I use one on the Sai buckets cuz the whole thing gets hot as fuck.

subway13029 · Oct 23, 2018

florduh said:
I think 400 is too hot for most materials. What ohms are your coils reading at?

im not home at moment..but i think it was .34 which is a bit low..i just hope i didnt burn the coils and forever have bad taste..lol

tennisguru1 · Oct 23, 2018

florduh said:
I feel like mine all just appeared somehow. I'd try eBay or Fasttech Someone else might have to chime in. But I don't rock a heatsink with the Molecule. You're taking quick hits so it never gets that hot. I use one on the Sai buckets cuz the whole thing gets hot as fuck.

If you follow what I was saying about the Mole, I didn't use the Mole with heat sink
for heat . I did it because of testing it, I found out how not to never crack the Quartz
still move it around on Espion 200 & Evic Dual , Evic Two mini, Evolve + & Evolve regular
pen batteries 8-15 very stealth pulse quick, Lavabox dna75m , Pico .
I finished testing on all these batteries now, really looks tiny cool & powerhouse in a small package is the Evolve + Black on Black Mole, so you have that Wax case on bottom of battery. Handy on tennis court, lol.
Works great on TC DNA 75 & all Joyetech AF, but you don't really need it on Mole.
Hope when the real Quartz Cup inserts come out it does half as good as the Sai Taf
QC. I use the 2 Dual's for that beast , one for each new bucket.
Quartz testing on the Espion & new Ti Skillet with Heater Plate from my second QC.
This shit has reached a new high, lol, or I have???
Since testing began 3 -4 days ago I lost 5lbs spaced it and forgot to eat. :>)

PS
Also on the Mole with the Olive Oil on the o-rings on day 1, I just pop that sucker
on & load it with a wood pick , tap to set, slip back on & go.
Not breaking anything and now as fast as Sai loading buckets.
Never having to unscrew that top piece , just pop mouthpiece off.

tennisguru1 · Oct 23, 2018

al bundy said:
thanks
And where can I get the heat sink from?

As @florduh said you really don't need it like for the Sai . Mole not hot, hits
fast , open coils. Depending on how they end up doing their quartz inserts,
you might need it down the road if you upgrade your Mole in future.
It takes a lot more energy to get a QQ or QC to simmer & just keep it there
, that's where a dual mod & AF come into the next level of excellence.
I have high hopes as that creator of the Mole is A++ Sharp.
I just get a 5 pack as I have so many Mods, lol.
I just have a good habit of when a smoker bud hits one of my
cutting edge vapes, coming from combustion & store pen carts,
when they say WOW!!! That's the best hit or high I had my whole life.
Just hand them mine loaded and set, press button & watch smoke in globe.

https://www.fasttech.com/products/3056/10010809/3574701
https://www.fasttech.com/product/3538504
Flat & air channel, black & silver

subway13029 · Oct 23, 2018

Hvt sells a heatsink as an accessory for the sai or sequoia and it’s like 2 bucks..

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