Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

Copacetic

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Would that be the same as "bottle tech"?
I thought bottle tech referred to a packing technique prior to pressing.
Jar tech involves a treatment applied to pressed rosin to change consistency.
I think it involves sealing the rosin in a jar and heating the whole jar over several hours or days which seperates terps/THC.
Terps are still sealed in the jar though, and crystals of THC form a crust on top.

Everything I just typed is subject to numerous forms of ignorance and idiocy, so, buyer beware.

Thats the guy!
Thanks @Pyr0 :tup:
 

superdang9000

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I thought bottle tech referred to a packing technique prior to pressing.
Jar tech involves a treatment applied to pressed rosin to change consistency.
I think it involves sealing the rosin in a jar and heating the whole jar over several hours or days which seperates terps/THC.
Terps are still sealed in the jar though, and crystals of THC form a crust on top.

Everything I just typed is subject to numerous forms of ignorance and idiocy, so, buyer beware.


Yes, you're correct, they're different topics. I'm really interested in learning more about jar tech but can't seem to find any useful info aside from the general concept like you mentioned. Lots of questions on that dude's IG but no real answers.

@invertedisdead did you ever have any luck with your experiment running hotter for a short time, then down to low heat?
 
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invertedisdead

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@invertedisdead did you ever have any luck with your experiment running hotter for a short time, then down to low heat?

I haven't tried the oven yet, but I switched to trying the highest temperature on my candle warmer and it seems to work, even with diamonds as long as they are crushed small enough.

I've been messing with BHO carts lately as I was hoping to get more hash rosin to experiment with but it fell through. I've only pressed flower lately and I just don't think it's really clean enough to run in the pen. The only thing I haven't tried yet is the separation tek.

The heat tek is somewhat misleading as it changes the opacity but does not change the fact that there is still a measurable amount of contaminant in the product. So the cart will look almost like distillate but it won't actually wick like an oil or vaporize like an oil. The carts made with 6 star bubble hash looks like it works great though lol, haven't tried any of that unfortunately!
 

psychonaut

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What type and brand of drops are you using with your distillate @psychonaut ? I’m just curious but know nothing about the terps available to regular folks. Are these the same kind the big cartridge manufacturers are using? Is distillate without flavour until you’ve added terpenes back in? So many questions, sorry.

I have an old stash of terpenes (I believe they are canna derived) from terpsonterps.com which I don't believe is around anymore, or they changed their name. The distillate is raw unflavored, just THC/CBD/CBG

'Jar tech' might achieve similar results?
I've seen it mentioned here on FC, but dont really know much about it other than it can reduce viscosity, and seperate some of the components of rosin?

Can anyone tell me the name of the guy on instagram who's entire 'story' is the development of jartech?

I meant to follow him, but musta followed the # jartech by mistake instead, now I can't find him!

I'm surprised there isn't more talk of it here on FC, or even a thread?

It's possible, but I don't know. I haven't pressed enough to try out jar tech yet. I should have rosin flowing in quantity again soon which I plan to try in my best value vacs vac chamber heating pad (no vacuum).

Repressing rosin to isolate the THC-a seems to be a faster method to get your crystals separated but it takes a bit more work and there's no guarantee it's necessarily going to work with all rosins. They say it's best to let the rosin autobudder up first, or if you have a buddered consistency rosin that tends to work best with THC-a isolation.
 

invertedisdead

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Are you guys trying to do it with flower rosin?

I think a goal was to get it with flower rosin since its so plentiful/easy to make, the yield on full melt hash is so low it's probably cheaper to just buy those carts from these processors.

Or one could buy a gram of 710labs to experiment with for carts but all these rosin processors have carts in the works so I'm not sure it's worth it. I know 710labs has carts coming soon.
 

JCat

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I think a goal was to get it with flower rosin since its so plentiful/easy to make, the yield on full melt hash is so low it's probably cheaper to just buy those carts from these processors.

Or one could buy a gram of 710labs to experiment with for carts but all these rosin processors have carts in the works so I'm not sure it's worth it. I know 710labs has carts coming soon.
In Canada, w/ legalization days away, they are cracking down on the thriving grey market .. so I'm concerned about the availability of consistent quality distillate and concentrates for carts over the next couple years. There won't be any concentrates or edibles for at least a year (not part of initial legalization) so that likely means more like 1-3 years before we see it hit shelves ... and then there's the matter of consistent supply of consistent strains ... sigh ... I could be dead before they have all this worked out :lol:
 

invertedisdead

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In Canada, w/ legalization days away, they are cracking down on the thriving grey market .. so I'm concerned about the availability of consistent quality distillate and concentrates for carts over the next couple years. There won't be any concentrates or edibles for at least a year (not part of initial legalization) so that likely means more like 1-3 years before we see it hit shelves ... and then there's the matter of consistent supply of consistent strains ... sigh ... I could be dead before they have all this worked out :lol:

Seems like a lot of people in Canada will be buying rosin presses if concentrate access disappears!
 

invertedisdead

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Yes, but does not resolve my portability problem :lol: ... distillate and CO2 honey oil carts are just so convenient!

I hear you, I'm just getting back into carts after a long hiatus from them and I truly feel they are the future of cannabis. No loading or cleaning, a few pods in your pocket of your favorite flavors, small temp controlled pen, true vaporization, no harsh plant contaminant, max flavor with every draw.

The easiest way to get a true oil cart is probably dry ice temp ethanol extraction or winterize pressed rosin. Then purge and possibly add cannabis terpenes for carts. It's the only thing that's going to have no plant fats though and will take the least amount of terpenes to adjust viscosity.
 

JCat

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I hear you, I'm just getting back into carts after a long hiatus from them and I truly feel they are the future of cannabis. No loading or cleaning, a few pods in your pocket of your favorite flavors, small temp controlled pen, true vaporization, no harsh plant contaminant, max flavor with every draw.

The easiest way to get a true oil cart is probably dry ice temp ethanol extraction or winterize pressed rosin. Then purge and possibly add cannabis terpenes for carts. It's the only thing that's going to have no plant fats though and will take the least amount of terpenes to adjust viscosity.
That's what I was thinking ... (that's where I started :lol: ... wondering if I should be getting a vac oven setup so I can properly winterize and purge my rosin :) )

I'm already waiting to hear back from the LCBO about the permit so I can buy 94% ethanol over the counter ... you have to e-mail their quality control department and have them issue you a permit! ... what a pain!
 

JCat

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Not a double post (too late to edit!)

So, was very easy to get my permit from the LCBO to purchase 94% ethanol. E-Mailed them, they got back to me indicating that they need to know what the purpose was, so I indicated it was for preparing medical cannabis tinctures. They said they would need documentation (ie. my ACMPR license), and since I am not currently growing, w/ current Canadian medical cannabis laws, I don't actually require an ACMPR. I indicated I still have my pink MMAR that is still valid through court injunction, as well as I still have a current prescription from my Doctor so could provide either if required; it was; so I just e-mailed them back a scanned copy of each. They just e-mailed me my permit :)

They responded typically in less than a day (generally within hours) and were very quick to take care of this.

All in all a very painless process.

Now I just need to purchase a vac purge setup!
 

JCat

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That's kind of nosy but I'm glad it was painless, can't wait to see your vanilla extracts ;)
:lol: ... that's sorta' what I said too! I said something along the lines of: "I'm using it for making medical cannabis tinctures, as I'm a valid medical user, not that I see why that should matter; however, since I have no issues disclosing it ..."
 

JCat

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But that’s not all that you need to do, kind sir!

1) buy vac purge setup
2) start a thread here
3) go step-by-step so that even I can comprehend and follow along

Better get crack-a-lacking on this project pronto! :rofl: But really tho, do this. :\
I am. I'll let everyone know the results. Hopefully they will be good and will warrant making a thread!
 

JCat

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$96.65 CAD for 1.14L in Ontario

$66 in Quebec!!! Next time I'm in Quebec I'll have to pick up a bottle ... it's available just over the counter there ...
 
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JCat

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Wow, that seems quite expensive?
Am I looking at the same stuff over here in the UK?
I spotted a 1 litre bottle on eBay for less than £20
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1000-ml-...153174871097?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
Yes, that one says suitable for tinctures so obviously it is food grade. So it is the same thing. It is all taxes.

I'm assuming you don't tax alcohol at the insane rates we do in Canada, and especially Ontario. Taxes are in excess of 100% in many cases ...

This is the product I'm purchasing: http://lcbosearch.com/products/378323

eg.

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Edit: FYI--Based on the above tax table, that makes the retail cost before tax $46.70CAD ~= £27.35
 
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