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rodders83

rodders83

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@Alexis

I remember you posting about the rituals of emtptying your lungs and you are right about it being irrational but ocd is that. Im not ocd about germs and without being high and mighty i simply attained extremely nigh on impossible hygeine standards for everything. Everythings wiped that i own no one gets entry to the house either so i guess ive mentally fortified myself in my castle. And ive developed detactched emotions and oponions of other humans because of this. So i cant let anyone touch my holy items in a way once they are all in a state of.perfection which everything is and is kept like that. And if i dont do this.everything seems wrong and worthless like a Herborizer Ti to me new would be wiped iso bathed and be one of these items. And when its taken away in the raid by someone dirty it.becomes dirty and worthless i would.mentally be blackmailed and tortured until i sold it and got a brand new one. And ive found weed does nothing about these thoughts and opinions.

I would not mind if they said ok we will work around your ocd but they just put the door in... and thats the dangerous part where ive told others i think ill be shot defending myself and thats not paranoia because i wont accept a caution or attend court because then i get a travel ban to America and its my dream to move there one day and get married!

Im sorry that went ott man as you can see its all mental i never actually had this prior to this event i was normal. But im lucky too as i do not get sick unlike you so i should count myself lucky. And yes i will be getting the Digi Ti but first i have to get a LED or 315w ceramic setup.
 
blackstone

blackstone

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Police leader urges for new approach on cannabis

12 September 2018

Cannabis clubs, where the drug is shared and smoked among members, are growing in popularity in the UK. The BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme took the police and crime commissioner for drug policy to meet people from three clubs to find out what they could contribute to the legalisation debate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45288789

From the article:
The programme contacted all 39 PCCs in England and Wales, who oversee police forces, to ask their view on cannabis clubs and the wider issue of the drug's decriminalisation.

Of these, 33 replied, with the PCCs from Derbyshire, North Wales, Durham, West Midlands, Gloucestershire and Avon and Somerset saying they did not believe criminalisation was necessary.

A further six said the crime was not a focus for them or they were open to discussion about it.

Two of the PCCs, Arfon Jones (North Wales) and Ron Hogg (Durham) said they had visited clubs in person, while others said they where open to doing so.

But 16 were actively opposed to decriminalisation.
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Alexis

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16 assholes then!!! Very revealing, thanks for scouting this out for us. I heard about this in advance via ukcannabissocialclibs on Instagram. But no precise details, not even programme times etc.

So I missed it completely, but wasnt that fussed- I knew nothinga majorly revolutionary had happened. The police are a big ally for the legalisation movement. Surprisingly, I NEVER would have expected that. But honestly, in a general sense and increasingly, the police have become less of an enemy.

But still a giant thorn. Very interesting to get a more precise picture of the "balance within the force" lol! :tup:
 
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blackstone

blackstone

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Imperial Brands Is Latest Tobacco Company to Look at Pot

September 26, 2018

Imperial Brands Plc Chief Executive Officer Alison Cooper signaled the U.K. tobacco company’s possible interest in expanding more in cannabis as the industry seeks new avenues to combat the continuous decline in smoking.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...chief-flags-interest-in-cannabis-for-wellness


Alexis said:
16 assholes then!!! Very revealing, thanks for scouting this out for us. I heard about this on advance via ukcannabissocialclibs on Instagram. But no precise details, not even programme times etc.

So I missed it completely, but wasnt that fussed- I knew nothinga majorly revolutionary had happened. The police are a big ally for the legalisation movement. Surprisingly, I NEVER would have expected that. But honestly, in a general sense and increasingly, the police have become less of an enemy.

But still a giant thorn. Very interesting to get a more precise picture of the "balance within the force" lol! :tup:
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I know, very interesting! Some 16 assholes are probably just protecting their cash cow! But it seems to mirror almost every modern public poll too where there's only just about enough in favour!
It would be pretty comforting to live in the areas mentioned to be not interested in it as a "crime".
There are some major reviews and reports to be announced pretty soon so I think we'll know one way or another how it looks for the near future.
Maybe we'll see what effect Canada's law change has on us all, among others like S.Africa now.
Slowly but surely?!
 
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Alexis

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blackstone said:
Imperial Brands Is Latest Tobacco Company to Look at Pot

September 26, 2018

Imperial Brands Plc Chief Executive Officer Alison Cooper signaled the U.K. tobacco company’s possible interest in expanding more in cannabis as the industry seeks new avenues to combat the continuous decline in smoking.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...chief-flags-interest-in-cannabis-for-wellness




I know, very interesting! Some 16 assholes are probably just protecting their cash cow! But it seems to mirror almost every modern public poll too where there's only just about enough in favour!
It would be pretty comforting to live in the areas mentioned to be not interested in it as a "crime".
There are some major reviews and reports to be announced pretty soon so I think we'll know one way or another how it looks for the near future.
Maybe we'll see what effect Canada's law change has on us all, among others like S.Africa now.
Slowly but surely?!
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Definitely bro. Echoed! :nod: We just have to watch and wait now. I'm not expecting anything and I'm prepared for any eventuality, turn of events or timescale but I remain optimistic and hopeful.

And I really don't think it would take a lot to swing general opinion significantly towards accepting cannabis once the official rhetoric bulshit has finally collapsed and it begins to be taught as a truth that cannabis does more good than harm.

Until then, grab a chair and a vape and...:popcorn:
 
chlorophyll_man

chlorophyll_man

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Gray Area said:
I know nothing more than what that article says... I'd imagine it'll be extreme cases only, at least for now.
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Sure yeah, I understand man :tup:. Just curious about who can do the prescribing.

I've been reading some more stuff and The Times say 80,000 specialist clinicians will be able to prescribe, but according to the NHS the total GP headcount in the UK is 41,000. So it's still confusing me!
 
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Hippie

Hippie

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Specialist doctors

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The decision to prescribe these unlicensed medicines must be made by a specialist doctor – not a GP. These doctors focus on one field of medicine such as neurology or paediatrics and are listed on the General Medical Council’s specialist register. They must make decisions on prescribing cannabis-based products for medicinal use on a case-by-case basis, and only when the patient has an unmet special clinical need that cannot be met by licensed products.

Patients under the care of a specialist should discuss their treatment plan with them.
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Shamelessly copy pastad from ...
Government announces that medicinal cannabis is legal
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-announces-that-medicinal-cannabis-is-legal

Cannabis Scheduling Review Part 1 - June 2018
https://assets.publishing.service.g...O_Report_Cannabis_Products_Web_Accessible.pdf
 
chlorophyll_man

chlorophyll_man

AVB Inspector
Hippie said:
Specialist doctors

"
The decision to prescribe these unlicensed medicines must be made by a specialist doctor – not a GP. These doctors focus on one field of medicine such as neurology or paediatrics and are listed on the General Medical Council’s specialist register. They must make decisions on prescribing cannabis-based products for medicinal use on a case-by-case basis, and only when the patient has an unmet special clinical need that cannot be met by licensed products.

Patients under the care of a specialist should discuss their treatment plan with them.
"

Shamelessly copy pastad from ...
Government announces that medicinal cannabis is legal
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-announces-that-medicinal-cannabis-is-legal

Cannabis Scheduling Review Part 1 - June 2018
https://assets.publishing.service.g...O_Report_Cannabis_Products_Web_Accessible.pdf
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Thanks man, really useful.

I wonder what kind of number of these specialists there are. Will they be inundated with GP referrals, can one self refer, can GPs block a referral request etc? Really interested to see how this unfolds, I hope it brings some quality of life to those who need it without exposing them to administrative stress.
 
Nina

Nina

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Hippie said:
an unmet special clinical need that cannot be met by licensed products
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I wonder if it will be sufficient for a prospective patient to say something like 'my anxiety /IBS/ depression /migraine or whatever' only improves when I use cannabis or will some proof be required?
And then what kind of products will we be able to use, will we get proper cannabis or some cannabis derivative which has been approved for use?
 
Hippie

Hippie

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I think they'll just offer you a choice of anxiety, depression, ibs, and headache meds to try one after another until you've exhausted there list of conventional licensed meds before they'll even discuss cannabis medication in an attempt to make it more stringent than the American system where the general perception is that you just need to find a sympathetic doctor to write you a script before you can pop down to your nearest dispensary and fill yer boots.

I think we need to start making a list of conditions with little or no conventional treatment ;)
 
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Alexis

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The government are just being typically redundant and backwards here. They are trying to control the bar- starting at the floor- a bit like gradually raising a net curtain an inch at a time to see if it lets enough light in for purposes. I think this is their strategy and it makes sense to see how much they can control this so they can keep us happy make money from it without giving away too much control and freedom and privilege.

But in the long run it will prove to be a pointless and foolhardy procedure because they will only have to give full way eventually. And they are kind of changing their tune a little bit as well just a short while ago they were officially saying that flower would also be available and that vaporizing would be acceptable whereas smoking will not.

Regardless of qualification for access the main issue at the moment is the rhetoric they are pumping out about what form these medicines will be in. Cannabis derived medicines for example (or something like that) doesnt instill much hope.

I really dont know how to call this right now. In my gut Im strongly expecting this initial Facade of resistance and denial and delay only to see it suddenly fall to pieces with a rapid progression to a surprisingly greater degree than seems on the cards currently and then we fear.

But at the same time I don't know if we will see quite a few years ago by now before we get anywhere close to where we would begin to accept the situation as being just and sufficient for the people.

So we'll just have to see but no question things are not going to be how they seem on the face of it you can always bet that with our bastardment ( I suddenly couldn't bring myself to use their proper name out of inner disgust and contempt.) :nope::leaf::rockon:
 
Skunkport

Skunkport

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There are about 80,000 doctors qualified to prescribe cannabis, all doctors on the Specialist Register (which says 94,600 but some doctors have multiple specialities) https://data.gmc-uk.org/gmcdata/home/#/reports/The Register/Stats/report

It's basically every doctor except your local GP, so if you have any chronic or severe illness you're seeing a non-GP doctor for, they can prescribe cannabis from November 1st.
From October 2019, GP's will be able to prescribe cannabis too, once NICE has released a guidance for it's use to them.


The legislation says 'is or contains cannabis', actual flower is included although combustion is illegal - we may have an influx of vapers soon.


““cannabis-based product for medicinal use in humans” means a preparation or other product, other than one to which paragraph 5 of part 1 of Schedule 4 applies, which—

(a)
is or contains cannabis, cannabis resin, cannabinol or a cannabinol derivative (not being dronabinol or its stereoisomers);

(b)
is produced for medicinal use in humans; and—

(c)
is—

(i)
a medicinal product, or

(ii)
a substance or preparation for use as an ingredient of, or in the production of an ingredient of, a medicinal product;”;

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/1055/regulation/3/made


Other changes are not certain but based on current legislation - It should be legal, once you have a prescription, to import your own cannabis from qualified suppliers, Bedrocan, Tilray I know of.

It's also now legal from November 1st, if you've been prescribed cannabis in another country and visit the UK, to bring less than 3 months supply with you.
And more if you apply for a licence.
 
Megaton

Megaton

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My feeling is the establishment has set themselves so much in opposition to it, that they are trying to avoid looking like they have flip flopped on the issue, so it will be slowly slowly to save face, but it is happening.
 
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dannydroid

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Nina said:
I wonder if it will be sufficient for a prospective patient to say something like 'my anxiety /IBS/ depression /migraine or whatever' only improves when I use cannabis or will some proof be required?
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lol no.

It's only for people who really need it, i.e. close to dying and / or suffering (which I can understand. They deserve it for than anyone), but anxiety, IBS, etc will not be on that list for years (regardless on the fact is really does help).

It's progress, but we've still got a hell of a way to go yet. Even then, I'm sure it will go more the way of Italy(?). The military (or GW, wouldn't that be a shocker...) grows it and its rubbish (because "skunk" is bad").
 
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pxl_jockey

pxl_jockey

Just a dude
I’ll definitely qualify no problem, I’ve been through the NHS pain program at Addenbrookes and have 3 diagnoses for chronic chronic conditions. I’m having a big spinal surgery next month and after that’s over I’ll begin in earnest to see what is available or how to get a licence. I have no interest in synthetic medicinal compounds or isolated cannabinols though, and hope that this isn’t what they’re prescribing.

I’m trying not to get too excited or be too optimistic about this situation because the UK governmental bodies seems so strangely afraid and reluctant to even consider the benefits of medical cannabis. It’s like they cannot admit that they were either somehow wrong before or just slinging bullshit. Even now, like @dannydroid says they’re still trying to demonise “skunk” which is basically anything besides larfy dirt weed. These fuckers do my head in! I don’t want them telling me that low grade shit is medicine.
 
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Alexis

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Megaton said:
My feeling is the establishment has set themselves so much in opposition to it, that they are trying to avoid looking like they have flip flopped on the issue, so it will be slowly slowly to save face, but it is happening.
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Exactly. I have said this for a while now. This is what all that "Demon skunk" baloney was about initially. To try and maintain some sort of credibility, feigning ignorance and innocence.

I havent heard much talk recently about dangerous Class A Skunk have you??
It seems that official line of rhetoric has served its initial purpose, foe now.

So I wonder- will it rear its ugly head again down the line? Maybe a mention but I expect them to keep quiet about that one now, hoping it fooled a good few milllion and leave it to get pushed under the carpet.
 
pxl_jockey

pxl_jockey

Just a dude
I love y’all! Some time, maybe not too long, we will not be criminals for using a miraculous plant that we’ve only just started to really understand. I am encouraged to recently see British police and medical groups publicly call for cannabis legalisation in the media. It’s the dinosaur politicians that seem to piss me off.
 
Skunkport

Skunkport

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dannydroid said:
lol no.

It's only for people who really need it, i.e. close to dying and / or suffering (which I can understand. They deserve it for than anyone), but anxiety, IBS, etc will not be on that list for years (regardless on the fact is really does help).
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There is no list, any specialist on the register can prescribe it for any condition from November 1st. That includes psychiatrists and internal medicine specialists, so anxiety and IBS are both eligible.



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I have no interest in synthetic medicinal compounds or isolated cannabinols though, and hope that this isn’t what they’re prescribing.
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I linked the legislation already. It specifically makes it clear than synthetic cannabinoids are NOT included, it's any form of cannabis.

is or contains cannabis, cannabis resin, cannabinol or a cannabinol derivative (not being dronabinol or its stereoisomers);
 
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