Amateur seeking help for simple DIY IH

hopla

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My question will certainly make a lot of people laugh, at least those who know a little about electricity and DIY projects.
I saw a video on youtube about a Vapcap IH and it seemed pretty easy to assemble,
but i have a problem while i'm waiting the different pieces to arrive i can't get how to connect the battery to the switch.
How do i connect the 2 prong switch
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to a Lipo battery with XT60 plug?
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I will need some cables surely, but do i have to solder the cables to the 2 prong switch or are there any particular ends for that type of 2 prong switch that i'd need to put on the end of the cables first?
Any help truly and fondly appreciated as i really don't know the first thing about electricity (but i couldn't wait for the Dynavap IH to be on the market, and Pipes and the Etsy guy have a long waiting list or long time schedule)
 
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KeroZen

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If you connect the two battery wires to your switch then you'll make a nice firework when you close the switch... and will probably burn your house down to flames!

Honestly if you have no clue like you said, don't mess with a LiPo pack of this size and capacity. So many ways it could go wrong...

For instance, when you'll have to remove that yellow XT60 plug, you'll need to cut the wires. If you do that with scissors, the naive way you'll short the battery and it will be pretty bad. Instead, you need to cut the red wire first, while being ultra careful that the tool you use doesn't also cut inadvertently through the insulation of the black wire. So with one hand pull the black wire as far away as you can from the red wire, only then can you use scissors to cut the red one.

Once you have the red one floating, leave the black one connected to the XT60, this way it will not be able to short. If you leave both wires cut at the same time, there's a high risk they'll touch at their end and create a short.

Solder the red wire to one of your switch terminals, coming from the exterior towards the interior. Then on the other terminal you'll need to solder the positive input wire of your IH circuit, not the black wire from the battery. The black wire from the battery will need to be soldered (or use a domino) to the negative input wire of your IH. Make sure the switch is open and not closed when you do that otherwise it will spark.
 
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KeroZen said:
If you connect the two battery wires to your switch then you'll make a nice firework when you close the switch... and will probably burn your house down to flames!

Honestly if you have no clue like you said, don't mess with a LiPo pack of this size and capacity. So many ways it could go wrong...

For instance, when you'll have to remove that yellow XT60 plug, you'll need to cut the wires. If you do that with scissors, the naive way you'll short the battery and it will be pretty bad. Instead, you need to cut the red wire first, while being ultra careful that the tool you use doesn't also cut inadvertently through the insulation of the black wire. So with one hand pull the black wire as far away as you can from the red wire, only then can you use scissors to cut the red one.

Once you have the red one floating, leave the black one connected to the XT60, this way it will not be able to short. If you leave both wires cut at the same time, there's a high risk they'll touch at their end and create a short.

Solder the red wire to one of your switch terminals, coming from the exterior towards the interior. Then on the other terminal you'll need to solder the positive input wire of your IH circuit, not the black wire from the battery. The black wire from the battery will need to be soldered (or use a domino) to the negative input wire of your IH. Make sure the switch is open and not closed when you do that otherwise it will spark.
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well thank you for the heads up! :tup:
I'll keep those precious informations (and read them a few times as it is like chinese to me...)
I'm browsing on banggood to see if there's not another solution (or i'll have to really be sure of what i'm doing to avoid any big mistake...).
Can't i just use that sort of switch between the battery and the IH module? (not sure that end goes well into the module though...)
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Or the battery directly to that other switch and then that switch to a banana end plug to the module?
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In order to avoid any soldering and possible problems?
Thank you again for your advice, i know that you shouldn't mess with electric parts but the temptation is too high ;)
 
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KeroZen

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That second switch could do. But then you'll need an adapter with a female XT60 on one side and whatever is on your IH module terminals at the moment.
 
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hopla

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KeroZen said:
That second switch could do. But then you'll need an adapter with a female XT60 on one side and whatever is on your IH module terminals at the moment.
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humm.. thank you again!
i'll check that later as i have to go out, the module seems to accept the banana plugs
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i thought the male to banana plugs in my example above would have worked (but then again, i know strictly nothing in that matter) as i imagined the connections as follow: the battery female> male-female switch> male to banana plugs.
I really have to go, thank you very much, you may have saved my house from burning down :haw:
 
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hopla

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thank you for your advice ;)
Actually it is after having seen his battery harness that i searched on banggood for something similar, now i should receive all the pieces in a few week.
Will post the result (or lack of it...)
I will certainly end up buying one from pipes or dynavap or someone else, mine is just for testing and pure curiosity
 
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So i received every parts and now i just need to know how to connect the +/- electric entry of the board to the switch.
The banana plugs are way too big for that board so i'll have to cut the wires (maybe i'll use the banana plug cables for another thing later on)
Is my assembly safe?
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to the switch

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I intend to cut the female end and screw the wires to the board
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I won't burn the house down, right?
:haw:
I ask because i'm not sure about the switch, and is there a safest way to connect naked wires to the +/- board that i should know?
Any help truly appreciated as i'm really a newbie in the electrical field.:ugh:
 
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KeroZen

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The XT60 plug on your Li-Po is a male, so you would need to keep the female on your switch extension cord and cut the male (you wrote the inverse) then you would connect the red wire to + and the black to - on your IH module.

Should be good! Make sure the switch is off when you do the wiring. Also cut the male part *before* plugging the battery to the other end, this way you have nothing to short.

So in order:
- cut male part of switch extension cord
- remove half a centimeter of wire insulation
- screw cut wires to the IH module terminals
- ensure switch is off
- connect battery
- switch on (and if you see sparks and/or magic smoke switch off immediately or unplug the battery)
 
hopla

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KeroZen said:
The XT60 plug on your Li-Po is a male, so you would need to keep the female on your switch extension cord and cut the male (you wrote the inverse) then you would connect the red wire to + and the black to - on your IH module.

Should be good! Make sure the switch is off when you do the wiring. Also cut the male part *before* plugging the battery to the other end, this way you have nothing to short.

So in order:
- cut male part of switch extension cord
- remove half a centimeter of wire insulation
- screw cut wires to the IH module terminals
- ensure switch is off
- connect battery
- switch on (and if you see sparks and/or magic smoke switch off immediately or unplug the battery)
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Will try tomorrow (just saw your answer when i came back home, it's early in the morning here), thank you for the detailed step by step (really needed in my case as i'm afraid to do something very wrong).
:tup:
 
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@hoopla can you link the parts you are using at banggood? Specifically, the XT60 adapter, the battery harness and the switch you are using. The youtube video has links for everything else. I may want to try my hand at one of these too :)
 
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stinkbud said:
@hoopla can you link the parts you are using at banggood? Specifically, the XT60 adapter, the battery harness and the switch you are using. The youtube video has links for everything else. I may want to try my hand at one of these too :)
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sure thing ;)
https://www.banggood.com/5V-12V-ZVS...Module-With-Coil-p-1015637.html?rmmds=myorder
https://www.banggood.com/New-B3-20W...Helicopter-Model-p-1022724.html?rmmds=myorder
https://www.banggood.com/110V220V-6...imeter-Tool-Kits-p-1145602.html?rmmds=myorder
https://www.banggood.com/Axial-XT60...-RC-Lipo-Battery-p-1152550.html?rmmds=myorder

I may have gone a little too big with the battery, someone could maybe confirm that a less potent and smaller battery would do the trick like in the video i posted (and smaller form factor means more portability)
https://m.banggood.com/ZOP-Power-11_1V-1500mAh-40C-3S-Lipo-Battery-XT60-Plug-p-1085894.html

i still haven't got the time to do the assembly, i hope i'll find time tomorrow. Thanks for the help again KeroZen!
 
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So...
It's a success!!!
It works well beyond my expectations:
1st click at 4-5 sec
2nd at 3-4 sec
and other ones around 2 sec (almost instantaneous with my SS M18 that keep the heat longer)
maybe the big 3500mah battery is for something in those quick clicks.
I was so worried to have a problem with the battery (having seen some terrifying videos about battery exploding...) that i did my first attempt on the outside in a frying pan :lmao:
Now i found a big box from Lavazza coffee that will be perfect to fit this huge battery (13cm x 4.5cm x 2.5cm)
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I have another question related to the assembly in that tin box:
Should i isolate the board from the battery with some material ? if so what is a good cheap heat insulating material? Wood? plastic foam or aluminium?

Regarding the difference between jet torch lighter vs. induction heater:
the herb seems to be more evenly heated from the first session and i get 4 sessions without the corny taste (with the jet torch lighter i begin to taste that corny taste from the third, or 4th if i heat it very slowly and from far away).

Just one word: do yourself a big favour and make your own or buy one (i will certainly buy one even with mine working so well) it's a whole new Dynavap experience, smoother and hassle-free!
:love:
 
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After a very long time i remember i had to post some pics, sorry for the quality, it's done on the run as always...
I wouldn't go out in the street with it, probably would be arrested for carrying a taser or something like that... but for the house activities it's very useful and easy to carry (even if i have an idea for somethin 4x/3x smaller
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It works as i said before: 4-6 seconds for a click, and the big battery allows a 10 days of reasonable use (i don't use it every day, it comes and goes, sometimes i use intensively the Dynavap, some other days the e-nano or the Sticky Bricks... i think a lot of you do the same and vary the pleasures)
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Internal quickly set up without too much bothering about it as i don't really carry it around
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I really love how much better the Dynavap is with an Induction Heater so so much better than with a torch: material more evenly toasted, 4 good sessions with a cap (i do only 3 with a torch), very very quick click (2-3 seconds) from the 2nd to the 4th session.

Only inconvenient is the charging time: i counted 7 hours last time i did it, maybe i didn't adjust the charger properly (i think there's a way to charge it faster even if it's a big battery)
 
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