Dabpress Rosin Plates

psychonaut

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Nice squish @gunmetalshark! Glad to see you got the gauge installed. I will be curious what you find to be the ideal pressure measured on the gauge.

Beautiful rosin there @Bunny Are you happy with your auto yields? I have been getting roughly 13-15% pretty regularly with mine, wish I had more but it is what it is, the rosin is slap yo momma good! BTW I can not say enough good things about Auto Ultimate, between yields and resin production and effects. I give it 4/5 stars which ain't bad for autoflowers!

@Grifo I get those wrinkles on occasion. I find that if I can get the filter compressed down enough to where it is not touching the top and bottom plate while loading, I can move the puck into position, while keeping the parchment nice and even. Then apply a couple of pumps to the hydraulic and tighten the load in-between the plates. The parchment should not be wrinkling at this point. The wrinkles really can be an issue as they'll tear the parchment. It helps to have the opening of the plates at eye level, or lean over to check the parchment. It's best to always try and have it nice and smooth in-between the plates prior to pressing.

I have the SS press here with the strongway pump. The fitting supplied needs to be re-worked so it's plug and play, I had to make some adjustments with my pieces to make it fit. Roger will be getting the fitting made however it will delay that part of the press for those curious.

The SS press is very tiny, much smaller than you would expect. It is also very heavy, which you may expect, as it's made of stainless steel.

With the pump and the SS press setup together, it takes up a considerable amount of table space, mostly because the strongway 10-ton pump is rather large, larger than the dabpress pump. I'll be comparing results of the pressure gauge on the strongway vs my Dake B-10 with dp-rp37. I have about 12oz of documentation regarding those presses for comparisons.

Considering this little unit basically just replaced an entire H-frame shop press sitting on my work table, I gained a lot of table space. Plus it can be moved without issue with a single person versus disassembling the H-frame press and moving it out with a helper.

The strongway pump, due to the smaller fitting, does not move as much hydraulic fluid into the cylinder with each pump, like an enerpac 3/8" NPT coupler would. I wanna say it took about 40 pumps to lower the ram completely (for those who have experience with a Dake B-10 unit, this is the same size fitting).

A benefit to this style pump is that when pressing hash, the likelihood of blowout with the slower ram action should be reduced.

Additionally, the rosin filters are in process however, they will not be sold under Dabpress brand, there will be news on these in the next few weeks. I have some samples here that need to be evaluated however I have a limited sample supply. I plan to send some to beta testers this week for comparison with their usual filters.

Regarding upcoming presses, what you will be seeing is a real evolution in product design. I've already seen one of the prototypes that is near completion and it is a stunner. I imagine it will also be quite heavy for it's size but it will be our best press yet.

Regarding a manual rosin press, hydraulics have proven to offer the best pressure rating with the least amount of effort by the rosineer. We feel this provides the end-user far better performance and least amount of effort during operation.

If these arbor type manual press designs can produce 1 ton per sq/in, we will have to take another look, but to only offer around half a ton of force is not within our acceptable range. We focus on amount of material used and pressure on tap, plate size is mostly to accommodate hash pressers due to lower pressure requirements. We want the end-user with 3x5" plates to be able to press 14g of buds per run.
 

gunmetalshark

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For filter bags and pre-presses, i would love to use 2 bigger round pucks, like 2“ diameter and fitting bags (maybe 2,5“x4,5“ for 2)

That way i‘d hope i could pre-press 10g into one puck and press 2 of them per squish :D :D
 

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pxl_jockey

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I’m so excited to see what y’all have got cooking for the last half of the year and beyond. @psychonaut thanks for giving us that, when this thread gets too quiet it makes me anxious, lol! Love to know everything going on with you guys, such good energy and really crazy momentum Roger has got going on!

@Grifo that link made kinda angry with a couple of those saying stuff that isn’t true. Especially steering folks to buying a wheel-type press! Glad I get my knowledge on these matters from my folks here who really know. Hate misinformation. Thanks for that insight into what others think/say. Happy to see someone said something toward the end!

@invertedisdead Thanks for this sir! I think the tendency for most males is to automatically think 20-ton is better than 6 and that he’ll be squishing max grams all day. I’ve been guilty of over-buying before certainly, especially when I had a more Texan mindset (BIG!) but over the years I’ve changed. I learned to buy quality AND what I reasonably need. Having a lifestyle where moving can be quick & out of our control, I’ve been forced to accept and embrace this. I still have a lot of tools, art equipment and junk though!

It’s important to get what you require, after you’ve researched what that is, more is wasted.
Having said that, the Super Sexy SS at 10-tons is hard to not dream about. :D
 

psychonaut

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@Grifo some legit points but IMO, any rosineer should be looking at the TONNAGE of the press for it's actual capabilities. The plate size is irrelevant to that as hash pressers are not tonnage monsters, thus there is a need to serve both consumers. Our recommend pairing of our cylinder pre-press mold utilizing the vertical filter builds gives the rosineer a compatible pairing with 2x filters at 7g/ea using roughly 4.8 sq/in of area.

If someone wants to press an ounce at a time on 3x5 plates, we've recommended to build your own DIY rosin press with our plate kits paired with a shop press that delivers at least 12 tons. A good pre-press mold would be infinitely helpful to make sure you get that ounce to fit in the filter.

It's part of the reason we likely won't be offering a large 4x7" AIO unit, it would practically require 20 tons to be feasible for flower pressing, which would make it a monster to ship and probably be overpriced due in part to that. Though this has me thinking in a slightly different direction :science:

@invertedisdead have you ran any comparisons on 14g presses between the AIO unit and your HF 12-ton unit or have you already gifted that one to your fam? You sure have been busy!

@pxl_jockey Roger sort of blindsided me with this new prototype. I am hopeful it will be affordable, but it looks like it took some complex molds and manufacturing. I guess we will see!

Tonight I am going to get the 10-ton strongway pump pressing out 5g at a time just to get a feel for the PSI readings on this new gauge vs my dake.


EDIT: After all that I looked up and realized I said a lot of this on the same page, sorry for sounding like a broken record.
 
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pxl_jockey

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@psychonaut So the SS press you’re talking of is a prototype? I thought you were pairing the strongway pump with the existing SS 10-ton, like gunmetal’s. Now I’m confused, is it a new SS model yet to be released? Doesn’t take much to confuse me at this hour! Roger is cranking them out!! :D

Got any prototype pictures of the smaller 3x3 AIO? Maybe Roger does? :brow: Need eye candy!

OT, please tell me that you can still post in the “Music to listen to...” threads! Or is it verboten with the company rep badge? We still need your tips for interesting tunes after all... :)
 

psychonaut

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@psychonaut So the SS press you’re talking of is a prototype? I thought you were pairing the strongway pump with the existing SS 10-ton, like gunmetal’s. Now I’m confused, is it a new SS model yet to be released? Doesn’t take much to confuse me at this hour! Roger is cranking them out!! :D

Got any prototype pictures of the smaller 3x3 AIO? Maybe Roger does? :brow: Need eye candy!

OT, please tell me that you can still post in the “Music to listen to...” threads! Or is it verboten with the company rep badge? We still need your tips for interesting tunes after all... :)

Sorry I should be referring to model numbers to be specific! I am pairing the dp-hr10t35 with the strongway 10-ton pump with gauge.

The prototype unit I do not have, as this unit is still in stress testing in the factory. It is made of stainless steel yes, but it has quite a different look and size from the dp-hr10t35 as it incorporates features requested on this very thread, and as Roger always with his ears on the thread, brought them to the prototype.

AFAIK, there are 4 new models being designed presently, 2 are right now in built as a prototype, the small unit and the new unit both incorporate drip tech capabilities.

That is probably the biggest news of these new presses and what will differentiate them from the current models.

Additionally, I dont think any of these units will displace another, as they vary in capability/size/price which should cover most consumers.

I can post in that thread, at least I hope so! I didnt see anything in the rules about not posting in there :D I been busy lately which is why I haven't been posting but I'll link up some goodies in there ;)
 

pxl_jockey

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That’s the beautiful thing about @dabpress.com and Roger, or should say one of many beautiful things.

He actually listens to his customers in the field, and then uses his skills and expertise to make it. He apparently also doesn’t sit still or rest on past successes. This whole range of products in such a short time!

I agree, none of the Dabpress presses are redundant, they all have their place according to capability. I’m amazed that he’s making a press for the small-time rosineer* and the other new presses as well. Many companies seem satisfied to make big pressers and maybe a smaller, yet stupidly expensive, AIO solution.

I’m grateful for the reasonable, affordable pricing at Dabpress and hope it never changes. Roger is really taking the game to these manufacturers that want you to think it takes $1200-2000 to get equipment capable of consistent quality results. Many of them don’t look as nice as the Dabpress units.

Roger’s CS reputation is the thing that seals it for me, you cannot take that type of sincere customer care for granted these days, especially (unfortunately) compared to some 420-businesses just cashing in.


* I expect this is a wise business move, as many will likely upgrade over time with more Dabpresses!
 

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I did a little test today, to get my toes wet, using a completely different gauge and pump of a unit I've never pressed with before, the dp-hr10t35.

I used a rosin sleeve tube cut down to size, maybe 3" tall. Pressed in 4.1g of Auto Ultimate tops, had the plates preheated for about 15 minutes until it reached 220F (room is 61F ambient at the moment). Got the double sided parchment paper loaded up, made sure there were no wrinkles! Carefully placed the puck which has folding on both sides due to the use of a rosin sleeve tube, pumped the strongway 3 times to lock the load in place with the parchment all pretty. Then proceeded to apply pressure. At first I was a little worried, I dont see the guage moving but the bud is getting pretty flat, then the gauge starts moving up and down, so I pump it again, up and down on the PSI again. This is all good signs, and something I am ever familar with. As I watch the PSI reading on the guage, I see I am at around 1200 PSI, and as expected, the rosin is running down the front of the plates, such a beautiful golden color. I begin to pump it more, watching the pressure gauge climb, all the way up to about 2200 PSI! Yes, this is the PSI I was getting on my dake when i felt like I was reaching about max pressure before paper tearing or bleed through. All tell tale signs of too much pressure. Again, as predicted, I see that the rosin at the higher pressures is darker.

Collection was great, I did need to use an ice pack, it was still a lil runny but I was able to move the glob along and maintain some sort of stability as it engulfed the end of my collection tool.

So, for this effort, I utilized what I read as approx 2200 max PSI, 2 mins pressing time, 220F on the PID. Yield was 0.64g which calculates to 15.6% yield. This is slightly more than I had in my previous effort on a different press with similar PSI, but shorter duration, I documented that effort here - http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/w...-kit-how-to-use-it.26087/page-33#post-1284785

Here is a video showing the dp-hr10t35 with the strongway pump #46278 applying about 2200 PSI.


Here's the press
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Closeups of the puck imprint and condition of parchment paper, you may notice the small amount of bleed through (i.e. too much pressure)
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Here's the unfolded parchment after collection, held up well!
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After this maiden voyage with completely new equipment, I almost feel right at home in comparison to my 10-ton dake with dp-rp37 press.
 
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pxl_jockey

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Okay guys, just want to thank y’all for letting me hang out here and “contribute” considering I don’t have a dabpress or indeed, any press yet. Until then, I’m trying to educate myself since I don’t have to do research on presses. I’m a sucker for tools of any sort, but it seems to me a lot of collection tools out there are repurposed dental tools and “wax-carving” artist tools sold at stupid mark-up.

Then I recalled Roger @dabpress.com had asked for ideas for accessories when I saw this. I’ve no idea if it would be any good in the field but they are proud of it! I’m sure dabpress could make a quality alternative though. It boasts 2 food-grade SS blades, a 1-inch & 2-inch, which got me searching and there are tons of industrial and domestic food scrapers with those type of blades in lots of widths for >$10. But a quality tool in this vein from dabpress would be popular. Unless you guys know all this and it sucks and I just missed it.

Also thinking about the majority of rosineers who have access to larger quantities of material, I wonder how many would like Dabpress-quality dry sift screens or is this something most already have around? I’m reading more about kief and hash pressing, sounds like another great reason for a dabpress to me!
 

tepictoton

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How about looking into pre-formed baking paper or ptfe paper(like oilslick sheets, basically baking paper with teflon on one side) 'envelopes' that are fine tuned to the size of the different plates?

Or even just pre-cut squares that fit in the caged plates?

I am using oilslick sheets, and always have to either cut them to size and or fold them to fit. In other words, Pre-cut papers according to plate size might be another welcomed 'accesoir'?
 

dabpress.com

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Okay guys, just want to thank y’all for letting me hang out here and “contribute” considering I don’t have a dabpress or indeed, any press yet. Until then, I’m trying to educate myself since I don’t have to do research on presses. I’m a sucker for tools of any sort, but it seems to me a lot of collection tools out there are repurposed dental tools and “wax-carving” artist tools sold at stupid mark-up.

Then I recalled Roger @dabpress.com had asked for ideas for accessories when I saw this. I’ve no idea if it would be any good in the field but they are proud of it! I’m sure dabpress could make a quality alternative though. It boasts 2 food-grade SS blades, a 1-inch & 2-inch, which got me searching and there are tons of industrial and domestic food scrapers with those type of blades in lots of widths for >$10. But a quality tool in this vein from dabpress would be popular. Unless you guys know all this and it sucks and I just missed it.

Also thinking about the majority of rosineers who have access to larger quantities of material, I wonder how many would like Dabpress-quality dry sift screens or is this something most already have around? I’m reading more about kief and hash pressing, sounds like another great reason for a dabpress to me!

We don't copy to offer this kind of tool, i am sorry for that.
 

psychonaut

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@pxl_jockey The large tool in our dab toolkit dp-tp1 is wide or really wide, depending on how you hold it in your hand and which end you choose. That smaller flat end could probably scrape up a couple of grams in a shot, the larger end could hold probably 4 (this is assuming the rosin has stabilized!).

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The smaller dab tools are good for dabs and hash/sift. One is slightly larger than the other depending on your needs.

@tepictoton we discussed something similar, specifically to improve drip tech. Right now the prototypes are taking up much of our time. Once those get stress tested and the coupler for the other common hydraulic pumps are finished we are looking at a few accessories to help rosineers workflow and make things even more efficient.

For anyone who has the 2x4" pre-press mold dp-pm4007s, we would love to hear your feedback!
 

gunmetalshark

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For anyone who has the 2x4" pre-press mold dp-pm4007s, we would love to hear your feedback!

Ah..very good point...yes i encountered a design flaw but i dont know how to describe in english lol :D

The depth of part A must be at least as deep as the depth af part B so u can push the puck out after pre-pressing,
as it is now part A is too small so after pre-pressing the puck is stuck in part B and u need to use ur fingers to push it out ....not good as u risk to deform the puck again :/

Hope u get what i mean :)

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psychonaut

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Thank you for your feedback!

How much is fitting into this mold that a spacer would be beneficial? The options for puck thickness changes the dimensions of the filter used. A taller puck will require a bit wider of a filter, though that can be negated between pressure applied to the pre-press (i.e. filling 10g by hand vs 20g with assisted pressure). It will just be a matter of a more fluffy puck than a dense brick.
 

gunmetalshark

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Just make part A as deep as part B, that way it doesnt matter how thick the puck gets as u will always be able to push out everything :)
It would not make sense to make different spacers for different puck sizes IMO :)

It works the same way with the round pre-press so why not with the square one :)

I tried 10G now and think there is some space left for the 2x4,5 bags but i think it will max out at about 15g,
if we rly wanna do bigger squishes like 20g i think we would need to go for bigger pre press and 2,5" width filter bags.

I am using a clamp press (like an Irvine) with my pre-press.


i am in the making of my own pre press for larger round pucks, gonna increase diameter to 1,6inch and use 2,5 width bags,
that way i hope to get 2x 10G round pucks under the press as i felt it works better than 1 large puck....BUT further testing required...just my POV for now :)
 
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psychonaut

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Just make part A as deep as part B, that way it doesnt matter how thick the puck gets as u will always be able to push out everything :)
It would not make sense to make different spacers for different puck sizes IMO :)

It works the same way with the round pre-press so why not with the square one :)

I tried 10G now and think there is some space left for the 2x4,5 bags but i think it will max out at about 15g,
if we rly wanna do bigger squishes like 20g i think we would need to go for bigger pre press and 2,5" width filter bags.

I am using a clamp press (like an Irvine) with my pre-press.

I just did a run myself with 14g in the 2x4" mold, quite a tricky effort with my fluffy sativa. All I can say is you gotta be fast to get it in the filter, the included plastic sheets can be folded in the shape of the puck and let it quickly slide in the filter before it has a chance to expand much. I unfortunately didnt do that with this effort, so I had to tear up the nicely formed puck and stuff it into the filter.

I put my 2x4 pre-press on a piece of wood and stood on it, it pressed 14g to a nice puck not too dense. Next time I'll use the irwin clamp!

Just some simple folds on the sides of the parchment paper to keep the rosin moving forward, got a really good flow off the front, about 90% of the yield ended up coming out of the right corner of the plates. I pressed it for about 4 minutes, maybe should have gone longer. 5500 PSI on the strongway 10-ton pump. 2x4" perfectly sized finished puck. The PID was set for 220F. I still gotta calculate the actual puck PSI but after that dab I need a minute!

I too think a 2-piece version of this mold will be better to push the puck out completely.

EDIT: I think I got the math right, 6.7 tons or 1675 PSI is what I generated.
 
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psychonaut

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I have a 2x4' stainless steel worktable, our recently released dp-hr10t35 AIO stainless rosin press will easily fit on a 2x2' worktable along with a paired Strongway 10-ton pump w/gauge purchased from northern tool & equipment #46728 (sold separately). The hose will hang off the edge of the worktable and needs some space as when the hydraulics are under load the hose will stiffen.

Here is a link to a food service 2x2' stainless steel table with lower shelf for holding your accessories - https://www.webstaurantstore.com/re...galvanized-legs-and-undershelf/600T2424G.html

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Some simple silicone mats to rest the equipment on keeps them from sliding on the stainless steel worktable. Highly recommend this setup for anyone who wants uncompromising power in a small package.

This unit is not compatible with drip tech without some aftermarket modifications like a rest to hold the press in place when layed forward.

Presently the coupler that attaches the strongway 10-ton pump is not included with the press and must be purchased from a supplier such as grainger, we hope to have the included coupler within the next month. Otherwise, it is no problem to procure your own.

Teflon tape is recommended to be used on these fittings to prevent leaks, such as what is done with household water plumbing.

I want to say a few things about the strongway pump. Currently I am working to try and get a good cheat sheet on the PSI's for both the dp-pm3015r cylinder pre-press mold (2.4 sq/in pucks) and the 2x4" dp-pm4007s rectangle pre-press mold (8 sq/in pucks) to assist rosineers achieve their preferred PSI. Additionally, there are a number of GREAT features with this pump.

Product Summary
This general-purpose portable Strongway™ Hydraulic Pump with Gauge and Hose is ideal for use in industrial, commercial and construction work with a single-acting portable ram. The pump has a max. operating pressure of 8,939 PSI optimized by an internal pressure relief valve for overload protection. Includes hydraulic hose. Tested for reliability and safety to meet ASME ASP 2010 standard.

Strongway 10-ton pump with gauge product manual - https://www.northerntool.com/images/downloads/manuals/46278.pdf

In addition to the internal pressure relief valve for overload protection, there is an air bleed valve at the rear of the pump that you use before every use, to insure any air contained in the pump is released and not sent into the hydraulic system causing performance issues.

It is a little noisy, more noisy than my Dake pump, and it doesn't feel as smooth in the hand as the Dake. That being said, the Dake does not have the gauge integrated into the pump.

I have done a number of presses with this unit with both of the suggested pre-press molds using both directional flow (14g flower) and vertical filter build aka bottle tech style (4-5g flower). Preheating the unit to 220F takes less than 10 minutes thanks to the double insulation layers of bamboo and FR4 between the frame and the platens.

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