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StemPod by MPL

Vape Donkey 650

All vape, no smoke please.
Welp, it looks like I chose the wrong 1st mod out of the gate, especially as it arrived yesterday! All good knowing these limitations up front though. I'll get something else on order.

That said (while waiting for something new) I'd like to be able to play around with the Evic Primo Mini. It will be for use exclusively w/ the Stempod when it arrives, so I'll ask you guys here. Based on your guys experience using it with other devices, any recommendations out of the box?

Sorry if I dashed your enthusiasm for the new evic primo mini with my late, after-the-fact, review after your purchase. At least I think you'll find it does work pretty well as long as the amp / watt load you're throwing at your atomizer isn't too excessive for your battery or the mod, and the temp control does work very well, especially with AF. For most people's low to mid watt vaping, I don't think they'll run into these problems as much.

Also, my experience with getting "battery low" errors might be partially caused by how I've only used it with heavy, multiple ceramic atomizers, which tend to be a bit more massive & slower to warm up compared to metal coil wire type atomizers of a similar size & Ω. I don't think the little notch coils on the stempod will have a problem with "battery low" with the primo mini until at least 20-25% low charge with a good 18650.

But anyways, back to your question, any other recommendation for a mod?

I'm going with a proven classic, a good old evic vtc mini (real old school not even a vtwo mini)

I've had this mod for a couple years at least and it's been exclusively tasked with vaping indica dominant crumbles & honeycombs for me (other strains / types on other boxes & attys) Crumble & honeycomb has become pretty :\ bleh, un-interesting since live resin became more common, so this poor evic hasn't been used much by me lately. :cry: By switching this mod over to the stempod, I think I will be motivated to use this evic alot more soon. :luv:

And for that lowly old V3 donut for my neglected, dry indica crumbles, I went and bought another cuboid mini to take up those vaping duties. I got this for under $20 on ebay and it works fine as well. I have a bunch of these cuboid minis and I love them for a tiny mod. The only drawback is the internal 2400mah battery, but it makes up for it in compactness. Like the VTC / vtwo mini, this mod will run @funkyjunky's tuboevic, so you can set it to cruise mode and free up your fingers. If you don't mind the overhang and limited battery life and in-mod charging, the cuboid mini isn't a bad choice for a stempod, but the classic big cuboid might be better.

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To get used to herbs on my old grey evic, I wanted to test it's old VTC5 with the DT dry herb atty and had a few nice sessions. Inverted screen for GonG water rips! :nod: It was this humble 0.8Ω atty that was too much for 40w on the battery on my primo mini. No issue on this mod.

This might be serendipitous timing, apparently the new 25mm EHPro is due out soon: http://www.szehpro.com/project/mod-101-pro/

Edit: with TCR!

Wow, great timing indeed! I saw the announcement for pre-order for this new mod thru the heavengifts newsletter spam I get, (i consider it box mod news :D) the next day after you posted this.

Indeed, it does user-set TCR also, very nice! Tbh, the chipset & firmware on this new ehpro tube mod probably isn't as precise / adjustable as many of these joyetech / eleaf mods (with AF) that I'm used to, not even close to a dna or dicodes chip, for sure. The 50w 101mod I have is a bit sluggish yet it still gits'r dun. Maybe they have a better chip on the new 75w version?

I also like how it can run a 20 / 21700 battery too (very nice) which naturally makes it a 25mm diameter, to closer match the stempod. This should be more than enough to handle the stock coils or even some heavy custom builds :evil: and offer great battery life for a single cell.

So tempting to not buy this mod haha...it's just on pre-order now. I only see it on heavengifts. It's a bit pricey at $60 bucks, but much less than a dicodes still. HG tends to overprice their gear and even for shipping, but you can usually get a 30% off coupon at holidays. I only see one other place that has this mod. Can anyone else find other places selling this mod?

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Thank you a lot useful info there. There also some discussion on mods for sprinter stempod over in diy area. Currently I'm using a dna mod. But have order another to run AF for the stempod.

Learning this one the fly and would love if you could join the discussion over there. A lot of use are new to the mod world. You're experience in mod would really be helpful. Hoping to have a one stop place for mod settings and tweaks. A place to exchange ideals, share files and themes work towards coming up with profile's tailored towards each device.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/tc-box-mods-firmware-discussions-and-customizing.23742/

Dans has been helpful and is ok with me using his logo for my dna profiles/FC theme pack. Once things settle's down. Maybe Dan can make us a make a custom CSV file based on his coil. Not sure whats needed in AF settings. Haven't played with software yet.

http://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.html

Hey glad if I could help. If you read back on that thread you'll see I have a few posts, mostly geeking out about temp stability & PID control. Not much for me to add to the discussion ATM that I wouldn't find better placed in this thread I think...

Yeah put AF on it and enable PI mode for TC(R). Then screw the atty once and never touch it again! :lol:

When it works the Primo mini ain't bad don't worry.

Wow so not much to tweak in AF? Spent hours with the dna settings and was hoping I could least customize do some tweaking in AF too? Escribe is so customizable was least hoping Arctic Fox was too.

I'm guess should go back and look at the mac af config and af monitor software see at what it offers. Kinda be bummed if that all you can do with it.

Edit..just checked seems like there's lots of ways to adjust settings with AF and there device monitor looks like its in realtime.

I'm sure the settings keroZen posted would get you vaping just fine. But if looking to get the best performance possible from a new mod. He should join us over in diy discussions

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/tc-box-mods-firmware-discussions-and-customizing.23742/

@HerbieVonVapster: ha, indeed there are many settings in AF. My post was just a shortcut for "install and configure it" of course. But the important bit was to enable PI mode as I believe it's off by default and otherwise TC is not smooth at all.

Sorry about that been so wrapped up with escribe. Didn't want mess with AF till mod got here. You're advice is right best to give simple instruction to get it working. If someone want more advance stuff can checkout the mod setting post.

If we start clutter (guilty) post about mods it takes discussion away from the vaporizer.

Considering the amount of 510 vaporizer on the market and that mods basically work the same with them.
Don't want scare people off with a bunch tech mumble jumble when there just looking to vape.

Ha :D KZ was also mumbling to himself about 510 anomalies in that thread. I think his general point with AF is how reliable & easy it is to set up. For me, just lock in an accurate coil Ω, set your TCR, watts & temperature, (no need to mess with TFR, curves or pre-heat) enable PI control if applicable, and you can get great results right away without any tweaking as long as your battery discharge rate is sufficient and your mod's hardware or 510 connector isn't compromised. This should be the same formula for setting up a stempod with AF or tuboevic.

As you dig deeper into the AF client for your computer, you'll see there's lots of options and modes to customize and personalize, but it mostly deals with aesthetics & user preferences. It's really easy to set up AF to perform optimally, even without using your computer, just on the mod itself.

I'm sure you'll get great results with your dna mod as well, but it just seems you'll have to spend alot more time tapping away at the escribe to get set up and get results that are about as good or marginally better than AF? I should reserve judgement until you get to try out your SP with different mods. :) It may be accurate to say I have mild anti-DNA bias? :p (or pro-AF)

Just me, but I don't think it's bad to be 'cluttering up' this thread with mod talk? Alot of stempodders are new to box mods and need to learn stuff, it seems? Might as well chat! All the posts make this thread more cracking, isn't that what Dan wants? :spliff::cheers:
 
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Vape Donkey 650

All vape, no smoke please.
Double post :( Sorry guize my posts are too long with all the quotes and everything :shrug:

What do you guys think of this Mod? Thinking it might be a good match with the stempod?

https://vapegeek.co.uk/products/vapecige-creator-dna75c

Seems nice, standard price & size range for a dna mod. A little chunky. If it will be a good stempod match, aesthetically, it won't overhang, looks are your call. One thing that bothers me about alot of these mods is how you only have 75w available for 2x18650! :rolleyes: Any of my dual 18650 mods I can do at least 200, 230w, not that I really need all that. 75w will still be fine for a stock stempod deck but it barely taps the twin 18650s, for other big atomizers or custom SP builds you may want to use. :2c:

My apologies for not posting since the testing...been busy and haven’t even read the last four pages of this thread, so I hope I’m not mentioning things already covered.

To sum up, it’s an easy to use big hitter that could benefit from a better cooling stem, so it’s money on a bubbler. I’ve tested a number of these types of vapes and the stempod was easy to nail out of the box and I never combusted or even came close. TCR mode worked really well. I’ve also spent some time building my own mods like this and like what’s been done here with the deck. The air flows right over each of the two ss coils, and the female stem joint mated with anything 18mm I threw at it. I’m a fan of the funkyjunky software used on the mod sent with it and had no problems using it in cruise mode or fire mode.

It’s a great fit for most forum members...instant big, tasty hits and most of us like to tinker with our glass and stems and find the best fit for our style. For mass market consumption it’s like most others in its class right now...in search of a good dry cooling system that works well from a pocket. But it’s already got a polish about it that stands out...the travel box is a nice touch, and the finish of the stempod feels ready for the world...nice and tight, and who doesn’t like well thought out instructions!

I’ve already sent it back to its maker, so I can’t do any specific requests for testing. I’m very confident @AJS can answer technique questions for this one better than I...he’s got more practice with it, and was my go to for a quick start that got me up and running in no time!

Hey stickstones, right on for the extra notes! Words like these & @AJS's videos & posts are what convinced me to hop on board. From your description, the SP might not yet be the ultimate "put in your pocket and walk around and vape with it" device for quick, on-demand dry hits, mostly I would say because of the relatively large size and glass stem. That was my original hope for Dan's "modpod" which will hopefully still come around and be enabled by the SP's success first. But for those epic, powerful water sessions, GonG, messing around with coils & decks, and more for at-home use with longer cooling stems, the SP seems like it will be a pleaser. :)

I also appreciated your earlier reviews of the tubo evic which helped me to get that as my first, on-demand portable convection vape. It seems like the SP will give the tubo some serious competition (more like the tuboX) but that's nice how FJ has been helpful and supportive to Dan by letting him use the tuboevic software too. :clap: (aww :D)

Ok I’m baked. Going to bed. The stempod is amazing. So far my out of the box experience has been better with this vape than any other 18mm stem vape. That’s saying a lot. I will have more to say later. This thing is everything I hoped for and more so far :tup:

Yes! :p I opted to wait for my wood stashpod for a minor shipping fee when it's available next month. Hope to join you guys next week and post some reviews also. :clap:
 
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Summer

Long Island, NY
Just me, but I don't think it's bad to be 'cluttering up' this thread with mod talk? Alot of stempodders are new to mods and need to learn stuff, it seems? Might as well chat!

I don't think the little notch coils on the stempod will have a problem with "battery low" with the primo mini until at least 20-25% low charge with a good 18650.

In your 1st post (which the mods may combine with your 2nd post), except for the 2nd referenced quote, your entire post was about mods & firmware, so, I for one, think it belongs in the mod & software thread so that everyone, no matter if they have a stempod, splinter, iHeat, ceramic donut, whatever, will benefit from your post. It's not only stempodders who are new to mods & need to learn stuff. And your post was highly informative. Now if you had posted specifically what mod, firmware & setting you are using or experimenting with on the StemPod then it would be specifically related to this thread. Otherwise, those on the other thread are missing out on valuable info. &, to me, it is clutter if I'm specifically looking for info. dedicated to the Stempod. A thread can easily become pages & pages of OT posts that need to be waded through to find applicable info. And don't forget that months from now new stempodders will be referencing this thread & it ain't gonna get any smaller.

If we start clutter (guilty) post about mods it takes discussion away from the vaporizer.

You're experience in mod would really be helpful. Hoping to have a one stop place for mod settings and tweaks. A place to exchange ideals, share files and themes work towards coming up with profile's tailored towards each device.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/tc-box-mods-firmware-discussions-and-customizing.23742/

For now, I cross-posted several links to the above thread for others to have reference to. Since I'm a newbie with all this, I would like to be able to have the continuity of reading everything as much as possible in one place rather than having to jump between multiple threads.

This is all just my :2c:.
 
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HerbieVonVapster

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As you dig deeper into the AF client for your computer, you'll see there's lots of options and modes to customize and personalize, but it mostly deals with aesthetics & user preferences. It's really easy to set up AF to perform optimally, even without using your computer, just on the mod itself.

I'm sure you'll get great results with your dna mod as well, but it just seems you'll have to spend alot more time tapping away at the escribe to get set up and get results that are about as good or marginally better than AF? I should reserve judgement until you get to try out your SP with different mods. :) It may be accurate to say I have mild anti-DNA bias? :p (or pro-AF)

Just me, but I don't think it's bad to be 'cluttering up' this thread with mod talk? Alot of stempodders are new to box mods and need to learn stuff, it seems? Might as well chat! All the posts make this thread more cracking, isn't that what Dan wants?

For me it's just mixing two things I enjoy so don't mind messing with escribe. I kinda enjoy it. Since I have it made up mighta as well share it.

Just think some folks here, might also be new to mods and maybe don't want mess with setting. They want jump right in using there vape. So offering something that not going mess up there splinter and stempod with. I could see someone click some buttons accidentally changing profile or a setting. Possibly messing up there new vape. I lowered all settings to 45 max watts etc.

Seems nice, standard price & size range for a dna mod. A little chunky. If it will be a good stempod match, aesthetically, it won't overhang, looks are your call. One thing that bothers me about alot of these mods is how you only have 75w available for 2x18650! :rolleyes: Any of my dual 18650 mods I can do at least 200, 230w, not that I really need all that. 75w will still be fine for a stock stempod deck but it barely taps the twin 18650s, for other big atomizers or custom SP builds you may want to use. :2c:

Good points..might look for a dna250c instead down the road. Kinda wanted try build my own coils so having extra power could be nice. Plus dna250 use batteries better than the 75.

On the splinter batteries last all day on dna250. would guess 300 plus puffs. With milanna it was a constant battery change / charge hassle. It's so easy now pop 3 batteries in it last for the day. With stempod hoping for the same results but in a travel safer package.
 

sickmanfraud

Well-Known Member
But for those epic, powerful water sessions,

For those water sessions, you need to be able to balance the mod on your water piece.

If water is your preference you should seriously consider an additional mod, the TUBOx which is a 2 piece atomizer and 510 connection connected by a cable. Using the shareware from @funkyjunky (which will probably be fine with the stempod) allows for a relaxed water session in Cruise mode or temp step cruise without needing to be worried about the weight of your mod balanced on your glass.....

I personally am interested in the stempod for dry herbs and no water. I know that @AJS gets water hits with the stempod with no trouble,
 

TastyTicTac

New Member
Straight to the point. Water was by far my favorite method of use, it really shined.

I personally have a bong that has a 14mm stem... is there any single piece of equipment that I could buy that would allow the stempod to easily be used with this bong? Maybe I’m just an idiot, but i can’t seem to find anything online that serves this specific purpose.
 
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Summer

Long Island, NY
You have many options.
ThickAssGlass --cheap, fast, China

I'm in NY & I believe that tag has a warehouse in PA. Surprisingly, I placed an order on 7/11 & got it on 7/13 & an order on 7/12 & got it on 7/14. Grasscity also has adaptors & pretty fast ship.

Looks like tag's out of stock. But, https://www.grasscity.com/us_en/glass-adapter-male-14-5mm-male-18-8mm.html And you can also try ebay.

@supershredderdan, don't you want to ask the mods to move this out of the unreleased thread? And you may also want to start a subreddit. Just a thought.
 
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supershredderdan

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Manufacturer
I'm in NY & I believe that tag has a warehouse in PA. Surprisingly, I placed an order on 7/11 & got it on 7/13 & an order on 7/12 & got it on 7/14. Grasscity also has adaptors & pretty fast ship.

Looks like tag's out of stock. But, https://www.grasscity.com/us_en/glass-adapter-male-14-5mm-male-18-8mm.html And you can also try ebay.

@supershredderdan, don't you want to ask the mods to move this out of the unreleased thread? And you may also want to start a subreddit. Just a thought.

not quite yet, I would like to be caught up to all the preorders before we consider ourselves fully launched, still got a backorder of about 55 people


also, 18 to 18 adapters are up on the site for $9.99



anyone who wants their StemPod shipped without packaging let me know in the next 4 hours I can get one out before we leave for champs. include your order #
 
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Summer

Long Island, NY
Is it just me, but I can't access the accessories section. Yesterday I could see the accessories, but not today. :\
 
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RelaxedNow

Well-Known Member
not quite yet, I would like to be caught up to all the preorders before we consider ourselves fully launched, still got a backorder of about 55 people


also, 18 to 18 adapters are up on the site for $9.99



anyone who wants their StemPod shipped without packaging let me know in the next 4 hours I can get one out before we leave for champs

I’m using Safari on an iPad, and I can’t get beyond the home page, unless I click “Buy” for another Stempod. No Access to accessories or anything else on the site.
 
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dodgy_b

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Well, I don't know what kind of sorcery Dan uses for shipping, but my StemPod showed up unexpectedly early today... from one side of the country to the other! I'll post some pics and initial thoughts later when I've had a chance to fire it up! Build quality looks excellent and the XL8R stem fits perfectly, as expected.
Did you get to try your Stempod out with the XL8R stem? Curious if it's a snug fit and if you can get it in securely like the stock stem (which is great btw imo.)
 
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superdang9000

Flameo Hotman!
Did you get to try your Stempod out with the XL8R stem? Curious if it's a snug fit and if you can get it in securely like the stock stem (which is great btw imo.)


Yes, it fits great! I've held off from commenting about the StemPod because I'm still fine tuning it and don't want to jump the gun.

I will say that my 3D printed StashPod came broken, unfortunately, but I'm not worried about it. I placed my order before those were announced so it was just a happy bonus. The joint where the screw goes in was splintered. Printed plastic can sometimes be a bit brittle and may need some extra reinforcement in that area, but again, not something I'm concerned with.
 

dodgy_b

Well-Known Member
Yes, it fits great! I've held off from commenting about the StemPod because I'm still fine tuning it and don't want to jump the gun.

I will say that my 3D printed StashPod came broken, unfortunately, but I'm not worried about it. I placed my order before those were announced so it was just a happy bonus. The joint where the screw goes in was splintered. Printed plastic can sometimes be a bit brittle and may need some extra reinforcement in that area, but again, not something I'm concerned with.
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Nice. Glad to hear the XL8R fits well!

I received my Stempod last weekend and I'm fine tuning it also. (Can only really partake at nights.) Used a couple days on power/watt mode and the last 2 nights have been tweaking TCR.

I'll look forward to hearing your take and will post mine here as well. Overall I can say that I'm loving it!
 

HerbieVonVapster

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Got mine couple hours ago so this is first impression of device. Mine is a preorder so please keep that in mind.

Using a DNA250 mod box.

The device included stem with screen and allen wrench. I feel at the retail cost there should be a couple of extra rubber gaskets included. Maybe even a replacement set of coil and extra stem.

Did a burn in and detected no odd smells. It's very well made unit. This one looks like could stand up to some heavy use. The unit itself would easily survive a drop. Or any other abuse it's likely to encounter in average use. Really don't see this one needing any warranty repairs.

The coils are a good choice, some of you might remember elevapes coil design. No fiddling needed here. I just made sure with the stempod the coil where both level and was good to go.

Did the first stem in watt mode. Started at 25 watts ended at 30watts with air flow about half open using stock stem. That produced nice thick hits. Decided for safety to put a 500 temp cut off. Ended up having few issues with that. Please see below the material change (coils) that solved the problem.

Temperature control was a little more difficult. I thought could use a notched coil material file I found online. Wasn't happy with it. The temperature where way off using it.
Tossed together one that much closer to matching the stempod.

Once that was outa the way on to temperature control. I feel that my readout is now very close to correct temperature displayed. The stempod maintained a nice steady temperature at each setting. Produced excellent vapor thickness and density based on the set temperatures. Left airflow half open stock stem.

Stems fit in nice and tight only you do need to be a little careful when pulling stem out. Or you might pull it off the deck. Hold onto stempod not mod when removing stem.

The included stem glass is nice. Personally i be using a wood stem. Planning this be used more when outside. With a wooden stem not much here to break.

Anyways just wanted to give some early thoughts on this. Sure I will have more to add once I spend more time with it.
 

RelaxedNow

Well-Known Member
Those of you who’ve received your Stempods are making me jealous. Mine arrived thus past Saturday, but I won’t see it until I get home next Tuesday. The plus side is that I get to read your reviews, and learn a few things before I try it out. I thank you for that. :)
 
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superdang9000

Flameo Hotman!
Got mine couple hours ago so this is first impression of device. Mine is a preorder so please keep that in mind.

Could you expand a bit on your settings? In order to get performance similar to say, a Milaana, I've been cranking it up to about 36 watts, 450 degrees, with TCR at 290 (based on AJS's recommendation). I'm getting decent clouds, but some centralization of heat in the bowl and it's going through batteries pretty quickly.
 

HerbieVonVapster

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Hard to compare wattage between a milaana and stempod. Would say if I turned off temp protection around 33 watts. Both could combust if didn't let off the power.

Will add the custom material in the fcshare file.
 
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superdang9000

Flameo Hotman!
Hard to compare wattage between a milaana and stempod. Would say if I turned off temp protection around 33 watts. Both would combust if wasn't careful.


Sorry, wasn't trying to compare wattage to the Milaana, just vapor results. Box mods are still something fairly new to me...

It feels like something just isn't quite right with my settings (or maybe technique?).
 
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HerbieVonVapster

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Sorry, wasn't trying to compare wattage to the Milaana, just vapor results. Box mods are still something fairly new to me...

It feels like something just isn't quite right with my settings (or maybe technique?).

If you want get same cloud effect and feeling as milaana or other unregulated vaporizer. I would suggest running mode in just wattage setting. You might be mistaking the extra heat you feel that is missing is due to a the box mods temperature being set at 450.

Try 30 or so watts without TC and temp protection off on the mod. Let me know if that is closer to milaana vapor experience for you. You might be getting the same vapor output just missing the extra heat feeling of unregulated.
 

superdang9000

Flameo Hotman!
If you want get same cloud effect and feeling as milaana or other unregulated vaporizer. I would suggest running mode in just wattage setting. You might be mistaking the extra heat you feel that is missing is due to a the box mods temperature being set at 450.

Try 30 or so watts without TC and temp protection off on the mod. Let me know if that is closer to milaana vapor experience for you. You might be getting the same vapor output just missing the extra heat feeling of unregulated.

I don't want to get too hung up on the Milaana comparison... I bought the StemPod basically because it's different (and more flexible, in theory). I'm just trying to understand the results I'm seeing and hoping to compare with other StemPod users.

As it stands, if I set my wattage and TC temp lower (28-30 watts @ 380-400 with low airflow, for example), I have to draw for almost 30 seconds to get visible vapor... Which is difficult for me. As I go higher with a bit more airflow, I get decent vapor production, but with a very dark center in the bowl and it's shredding batteries (the battery use doesn't bother me per se, it just doesn't seem right).

Based on the videos and livestreams I've seen, I'm convinced I'm doing something wrong. I've tried drawing both extremely slow, faster and somewhere in between.

Anyway, I'll give the wattage mode a shot for testing but TCR is very appealing. Thanks for the suggestions!
 
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