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The Rejection of This Marijuana Petition by the FDA Could Be a Bigger Deal Than You Realize
Suddenly, rescheduling cannabis doesn't seem like such a terrible idea.

Sean Williams
(TMFUltraLong)
Jul 8, 2018 at 11:41AM
In just a few months, the legal cannabis industry will be turned on its head. Based on the passage of the Cannabis Act on June 19 in Canada, adults will be able to legally purchase marijuana beginning Oct. 17, 2018. That's right -- Canada will be the first industrialized country in the world to give the green light to recreational marijuana.

And it's not just Canada that's seen a marked change in cannabis policy. To our south, Mexico legalized medical cannabis in June 2017. On a broader basis, more than 24 countries around the world have given the OK to medical cannabis in some capacity, be it for the dried product or via cannabis oils. At no point in history has momentum for legal weed ever been this strong.

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The U.S. federal government won't cave to peer pressure on marijuana
Yet in the U.S., the tale of legal cannabis is bifurcated, at best.

On one hand, Oklahoma's recent approval makes it the 30th state to pass sweeping medical marijuana laws. Among these 30 states are nine that also allow adults to consume recreational cannabis. Further, a Gallup poll from October 2017 found that an all-time high 64% of respondents favor the legalization of marijuana.

On the other hand, the federal government continues to stand firm on its Schedule I classification of the drug. Schedule I drugs are entirely illegal, considered to be highly prone to abuse and have no recognized medical benefits.

This scheduling also can create havoc for businesses and patients. For example, businesses in the pot industry are unable to take normal corporate income tax deductions and usually have little or no access to basic banking services. Meanwhile, patients who could potentially benefit from access to medical cannabis get the short end of the stick because federal red tape dramatically slows the clinical-research process.

The FDA recently has given cannabis enthusiasts two things to cheer about
For as strict as the federal government has been with classifying cannabis, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has delivered two big wins in as many weeks for the legal weed movement.

For those who may not recall, on June 25, the FDA approved GW Pharmaceuticals' (NASDAQ:GWPH) Epidiolex, which is the first cannabis-derived drug to get a greenlight. Utilizing cannabidiol (CBD), the non-psychoactive cannabinoid most often associated with medical benefits, GW Pharmaceuticals' lead drug wound up delivering statistically significant reductions in seizure frequency relative to baseline and when compared to a placebo.

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The mere fact that the FDA granted GW Pharmaceuticals' cannabis-derived drug an approval is in direct conflict with the definition of a Schedule I drug, which has no recognized medical benefits. Thus, this approval could coerce Congress to review the scheduling of marijuana or, at worst, consider rescheduling CBD. After all, CBD is already legal in some capacity in 46 states. Therefore, legalizing specific cannabinoids for medical use, like CBD, probably wouldn't require a lot of string pulling.

Then earlier this past week, the FDA gave legalization enthusiasts something else to cheer about when it rejected a petition from Drug Watch International to place marijuana on a list of restricted substances. In particular, the anti-legalization group sought the removal of over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing marijuana or tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive cannabinoid that gets you "high," from store shelves because the group felt that these OTC medicines were making unsupported medical claims.

However, as reported by Forbes, Janet Woodcock, the Director of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, noted in a letter to the group that the FDA "already has adequate authority to remove unapproved new OTC drugs containing marijuana or THC from the market." Woodcock added: "In order for the FDA to take enforcement action against illegal marketing of unapproved new OTC drugs containing marijuana or THC, it is not necessary for FDA to establish a negative monograph for marijuana or THC."

In other words, no further restrictions are being placed on medical cannabis at the federal level than already exist.

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Refuting this petition is possibly a bigger deal than you realize
But what you may not realize is just how telling the FDA's decision is not to further restrict OTC marijuana and THC products.

One of the biggest conundrums that the medical cannabis industry is contending with in the U.S. is rescheduling the drug. Ideally, proponents would like to see marijuana removed completely from the controlled substance list, but this isn't likely to happen -- at least not while Republicans have control of the legislative branch of the government.

In various polls, self-identified Republicans usually have a mixed or negative view of cannabis, albeit they usually are strongly behind the idea of physicians being able to prescribe medical marijuana to patients. This mixed-to-negative view toward marijuana probably means the best hope the legal weed industry has of taking a step forward at the federal level is by rescheduling it from Schedule I to Schedule II.

But herein lies the problem: Even though Schedule II drugs have recognized medical benefits, they also would come under the strict guidance of the FDA. This means the FDA would have the final say on marketing and packaging and it could oversee the manufacturing and processing of cannabis crops to ensure that THC and/or CBD content remained consistent from one batch to the next.

More importantly, it also could require medical marijuana companies to run costly and time-consuming clinical studies to backup their claims that cannabis helps patients with a specific ailment. I've previously opined that this aspect of rescheduling could make things even worse for the pot industry than they are now.

However, the FDA's rejection of Drug Watch International's petition appears to suggest that the drug-regulatory agency may not take a line-in-the-sand approach should marijuana be rescheduled to Schedule II. This isn't to say that the FDA hasn't pursued enforcement actions against OTC-based marijuana and THC products, so much as to suggest that the regulatory agency probably wouldn't require extensive clinical studies to be run. That's good news for medical patients and U.S. cannabinoid-based drug developers, and it would appear to make the Schedule II classification far less scary for the marijuana industry.

There's clearly a lot left to be hashed out with marijuana in the U.S., but the push to reschedule looks to be gaining momentum.
 

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More dogs being poisoned by marijuana, vets say

Dogs have larger concentrations of cannabinoid receptors — which are involved in memory, appetite and the sensation of pain — than humans, which make them “more susceptible to the effects of cannabis than people,” Gary Richter, a veterinarian at Holistic Veterinary Care in Oakland, California, told NBC News.
 

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When marijuana is legal in Canada, Americans are expected to flock. But the border, and U.S. law, stands in the way.

“Crossing the border with marijuana is prohibited and could potentially result in seizure, fines, and apprehension,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection said in a statement. The agency said it will continue to detect the illegal importation of drugs and work with local authorities should someone be suspected of driving under the influence. “CBP is always concerned about criminal activity at our U.S. borders. CBP officers are the nation’s first line of defense, including prevention of illegal importation of narcotics, including marijuana. U.S. federal law prohibits the importation of marijuana and CBP officers will continue to enforce that law.”

 
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analytika

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When marijuana is legal in Canada, Americans are expected to flock. But the border, and U.S. law, stands in the way.

“Crossing the border with marijuana is prohibited and could potentially result in seizure, fines, and apprehension,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection said in a statement. The agency said it will continue to detect the illegal importation of drugs and work with local authorities should someone be suspected of driving under the influence. “CBP is always concerned about criminal activity at our U.S. borders. CBP officers are the nation’s first line of defense, including prevention of illegal importation of narcotics, including marijuana. U.S. federal law prohibits the importation of marijuana and CBP officers will continue to enforce that law.”
Isn't legalization enough?

Why cross the border?

Why are in-state black markets still thriving?

Sigh. Taxes.

Cannabis activists got into bed with the wrong people, surrendered to the call to tax tax tax. And it's having terrible effects.

California for example.

With the taxes, and the latest regulations strangling supply, medical card holders are paying double what they did a year ago.

Sacramento Democrats are descending on the tax dollars like ravenous wolves, while patients suffer.

It has to stop.
 
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florduh

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Isn't legalization enough?

Why cross the border?

Why are in-state black markets still thriving?

Sigh. Taxes.

Cannabis activists got into bed with the wrong people, surrendered to the call to tax tax tax. And it's having terrible effects.

California for example.

With the taxes, and the latest regulations strangling supply, medical card holders are paying double what they did a year ago.

Sacramento Democrats are descending on the tax dollars like ravenous wolves, while patients suffer.

It has to stop.

I don't disagree that in their excitement over legalization, advocates accepted an unacceptably high level of taxation... particularly in California. That having been said, when you look at Washington and Oregon, prices including tax dropped precipitously within a year of legalization. Those States have similar taxes. Fully legal California markets just opened in January. Simple supply and demand will almost certainly lead to a drop in prices over the next year.

And while I'm not happy with California Democrats causing patients to suffer under a tax burden, I'm more upset with Texas Republicans, or Alabama Republicans causing patients to suffer by locking them in cages.
 

Skunkport

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They have legal personal growth, if prices get too high most people will just grow their own. There are automated systems in little cabinets and things for the complete newbie and you're allowed 6 plants, that's a huge amount of crop if you do it right.
 

analytika

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They have legal personal growth, if prices get too high most people will just grow their own. There are automated systems in little cabinets and things for the complete newbie and you're allowed 6 plants, that's a huge amount of crop if you do it right.
Yeah right. Try that in an apartment. What fraction of users could take a cannabis plant through its full lifecycle? What fraction of disabled users?
 
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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Was watching Jim Cramer yesterday. He interviewed the CEO of Canopy Growth. One of the questions asked was will revenue drop if/when the price of cannabis drops due to an increase in supply. A trend seen in some of the more mature legalization geographies.

The CEO said that they will do well regardless because......
Constellation Brands (Corona and other alcoholic drinks) bought a sizable stake in Canopy. The expectation is that there will be liquid based cannabis product like beer, as well as other product types AND if the price of cannabis itself drops their gross margins in these other areas will go up. Perception is a win-win.

Looks like being a producer of cannabis AND getting a piece of the secondary use market is a good way to diversify the revenue stream.

Still....personal cultivation like the quote below from Skunkport should dent those revenue streams some. It may just be a dent though since we can make our own alcoholic beverages since prohibition and yet it is a huge money maker for the big companies anyway.

It's hard to give you a full answer here since we're not supposed to discuss cultivation, but if you look into indoor techniques and thing like these http://uponics.com/best-grow-cabinets/ you'll see it's extremely feasible in an apartment, for disabled it will depends on the extent of their disabilities obviously.
 

macbill

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florduh

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Was watching Jim Cramer yesterday. He interviewed the CEO of Canopy Growth. One of the questions asked was will revenue drop if/when the price of cannabis drops due to an increase in supply. A trend seen in some of the more mature legalization geographies.

The CEO said that they will do well regardless because......
Constellation Brands (Corona and other alcoholic drinks) bought a sizable stake in Canopy. The expectation is that there will be liquid based cannabis product like beer, as well as other product types AND if the price of cannabis itself drops their gross margins in these other areas will go up. Perception is a win-win.

Looks like being a producer of cannabis AND getting a piece of the secondary use market is a good way to diversify the revenue stream.

Still....personal cultivation like the quote below from Skunkport should dent those revenue streams some. It may just be a dent though since we can make our own alcoholic beverages since prohibition and yet it is a huge money maker for the big companies anyway.

I'm pretty sure the wholesale price of cannabis in Washington is already $1 per gram or less. It will continue to drop until it's pennies per gram. Dropping prices have already driven smaller companies out of business.
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
I'm pretty sure the wholesale price of cannabis in Washington is already $1 per gram or less. It will continue to drop until it's pennies per gram. Dropping prices have already driven smaller companies out of business.

It's feeling more and more like alcohol prohibition.....I'd be in no rush to cultivate on my own even if it were legal if the price drops to the point where it's costing me more to do it myself than it would if I purchased it. Again...kinda like folks who make their own beer or wine being a microscopic part of the overall market. Sure...there will be some folks who will grow their own if it's legal, to control the quality side of the process but IMO they will be the exception and not the rule when prices are that low.
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
Prices here in Oregon are so low that a lot of dispensaries are going out of business. Of course we have one on every corner so the attrition is understandable. OLCC estimates that our state requires about 250,000 lbs of weed per year to keep medical and recreational folks supplied. Our actual production last year was just over a million pounds . . . ;) Only dispensaries that are vertically integrated into the market will survive. That means being zoned for a kitchen to make edibles, having an extraction permit and lab onsite, cloning, garden supplies etc. The more you can do from seed to sale the better your chances of making it.

You guys know I always say free weed rules but it is now getting closer and closer to actually being free.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
OLCC estimates that our state requires about 250,000 lbs of weed per year to keep medical and recreational folks supplied. Our actual production last year was just over a million pounds . . . ;)
So what happens to the extra 375 tons? Does it drop into the black market and further dilute the market price? Does it get burned (assuming the govt is keeping SOME track of it)?

I'm betting lots of it ends up moving east...
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
Does it drop into the black market and further dilute the market price?
Yes it does.
Does it get burned
No.
I'm betting lots of it ends up moving east...
Wouildn't surprise me a bit.

There is NO way OLCC can regulate even a small % of the market here. They focus on large grows and dispensaries but its mainly just a licensing scheme for the state to rake in some cash. They grab the low hanging fruit and that is all.
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
All I can say, as someone in an illegal state, is thank you. Pretty much everything I get now comes from legal states, often still in sealed and labeled packages.
I respect all those people taking the risk, and driving back and fourth to help the rest of us.
 

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
Sounds amazing, I wish Europe (and the world world for that matter) were at least as far into legalization as US.
Dollar per gram, sealed labeled packaging, quality regulations, strain choices...
Meanwhile I have to buy 5g for no less than 30$, it's wrapped in a lunch bag, full of leaves, stems, sometimes wet, sometimes moldy, often below average quality andvery rarely I could get to know the strain name.
And all of that because Europe is still folloing and defending a cruel stupid policy that is falling apart even in its own birthplace, started by the same party everyone in the world sees as corrupt treasonous fascists signed into law by an impeached president.
And officials from that time even admitting it was all based on racism and incarceration of political opposition.
And here in Czech Republic we don't even have many blacks and hippies, so it's not even achieving the racist goal Republicans started it for. It's just fucking up regular white people.
 
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hibeam

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Only dispensaries that are vertically integrated into the market will survive. That means being zoned for a kitchen to make edibles, having an extraction permit and lab onsite, cloning, garden supplies etc. The more you can do from seed to sale the better your chances of making it.

We have mandatory vertical integration in FL's medical program thanks to our DOH.

To me, it looks like when the time comes, big tobacco and big pharma can come along to finish the business they started. The vertically integrated companies they initially backed can be "bought out" in a way that monopolizes our entire state cannabis industry with a stroke or two of a keyboard.

So I am not a fan of this survivalist business model. I hope I am wrong and my fav company flips off big T and big P when they wave their checks in the air, but somehow I do not have the faith...maybe it is all those alibaba batteries and cartridges (DOH approved!) that go out the door for every gram of actual flower.
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
The vertically integrated companies they initially backed can be "bought out"
Well, here in Oregon, we have seen a lot of huge $$$ actually coming from growers in Colorado. It appears they have tons of cash and they are not just buying dispensaries but entire shopping complexes that contain them. We have had offers on ours but we aren't selling.

Also, vertical integration means a larger variety of medicine with better quality control imho. The market will naturally sort out the winners and losers. If you are worried about Monsanto or other evil corporations taking over the weed business watch the federal government. They have been stalling the whole legalization process so that their friends in big pharma and the corporations can catch up and take over. However, imho, I think it will be like beer. You can go have a Budweiser if you want or you can go to a microbrew and get a well crafted beer, made locally, by people that you know and trust.
 

ViCKi LEEKX

Fuck Vaporizer Combustion
OK MMJ keeps getting weirder...

https://newsok.com/article/5601630/...gns-after-medical-marijuana-rules-controversy

Much more info in the linked article (which has been revised multiple times to add more details), but here are some basics from the first part:

The former top lawyer at the Oklahoma Health Department was accused Tuesday in a criminal charge of sending threatening emails to herself in an attention-seeking ploy.

Julie Ezell, 37, of Edmond, resigned as general counsel Friday, shortly after confessing, according to an investigator's affidavit.

She posed in the emails as a medical marijuana advocate who threatened retribution if the Health Department imposed restrictive rules on its use. "We would hate to hurt a pretty lady. You will hear us," one email said.

Ezell is charged in Oklahoma County District Court with two felonies and a misdemeanor. She has not been arrested.
 
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