Eating "bud lite" plain?

I have been vaporizing for about a year now, but last night my friend conjured up an idea completely new to me..he spoke about eating vaporized bud plain! I have never even thought to do this because of how nasty it looks, but he says it doesn't taste bad and would eat it if I thought it would have an effect.

I haven't experimented yet, but I am planning on it soon...but my immediate thoughts are that it would work because I am under the impression that the cannabinoids just need to be heated once to become active. So if I were to eat a couple grams of this bud lite, do you think it would have an effect as strong as smoking it in a joint?

Note: One joint of the vaporized bud gets me very, very high

So I'm just looking for opinions or past experiences that anyone has had..let me know what you think

IMO, it's won't affect you, but I speak out of my hat.
It's nice to smoke vaporized bud,
My friend are dirt poor and always ask me to make them smoke,
anyway I always take like a 0,5g of fresh herb and mix it with 1g of abv buds
Nobody noticed

I guess it would be way better to just make some brownies with your abv buds

Haha that's funny man, great idea

I believe it also has to do with how the remaining actives are metastised by your body. When the actives are leeched into something fatty (like peanut butter or some other oil high in saturated fat) your liver can easier break down and absorb the goodies (at least much easier)

I dont think eating it plain will do you much justice. (IMO)

I always pinch some ABV bud while its still warm from vaporizing and put some in my mouth. I always notice my high gets immediately kicked up at least 30% right after letting the ABV buds dissolve for about a minute in my mouth. I suck all the flavor out of it until it just tastes like straw and thats when I spit it out. It definitely gets me higher. When I first starting vaporizing, as all of us have been there at one point, I didnt really know how to vape properly and I wasnt getting much vapor from my herbs. I would end up kind of stoned, but not really stoned like I would feel when I would smoke. So one time after smelling that pop corn/cannabis smell of ABV buds, I got a wild idea to pinch some and taste it. It tastes like green tea from the Japanese restaurant I eat at sometimes, and for some reason (unlike fresh green bud) it goes into your bloodstream very quickly in your mouth. I dont know why but it works. It took me from being a little stoned (because of my noob vaping techniques) to high as a kite just from eating warm toasty buds. EAT YOUR ABV buds (or make tea) it tastes good and it works. You dont have to cook with it, although cooking is probably the best way to extract EVERYTHING from your ABV buds, some green thumbs are not the best cooks. Who knows, maybe there are some anti-oxidants in there that are anti cancer.

You can eat ABV whole if you wish, it is activated by the heat of your vape, so it's good to go. I've known people who have made abv capsules and have taken it with Orange juice and other stuff. I personally haven't tried it, but it does work.

if i'm away from home and need to re-pack my ioLite, i always eat the abv.
since the abv has mostly higher temp caniboids, i find it works well with the very low end caniboids that vape out first.

I've been telling people to do this for a while on this site because unless you vape at high temps around 400f-440f you aren't getting all the goodies and even then you aren't like beta-carophylene. Plus if you vape your abv at a later date a good amount of the thc will oxidize into cbn due to the heat and oxygen going through the bud and you actually wasted a lot of the thc.

Just vape at whatever temp you like using and eat some nuts, seeds or avocado laced food along with your abv or right before you vape due to the good fats and minerals they contain. Just toss the abv back with some juice preferably orange juice or grape juice and prepare for the nice stone and depending on how low of a temp you vape, prepare for a strong high along with the relaxing stone.

Just ingesting the abv alone isn't very efficient because the chemicals that you want rely on fat being like a solvent and getting it to all parts of the body.

luchiano said:

I've been telling people to do this for a while on this site because unless you vape at high temps around 400f-440f you aren't getting all the goodies and even then you aren't like beta-carophylene. Plus if you vape your abv at a later date a good amount of the thc will oxidize into cbn due to the heat and oxygen going through the bud and you actually wasted a lot of the thc.

Just vape at whatever temp you like using and eat some nuts, seeds or avocado laced food along with your abv or right before you vape due to the good fats and minerals they contain. Just toss the abv back with some juice preferably orange juice or grape juice and prepare for the nice stone and depending on how low of a temp you vape, prepare for a strong high along with the relaxing stone.

Just ingesting the abv alone isn't very efficient because the chemicals that you want rely on fat being like a solvent and getting it to all parts of the body.

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Fat soluables do get absorbed in the mouth, it just takes longer then non-fat soluables. I do think if the buds are still warm the actives go into your bloodstream through your mouth very quickly. It takes no longer then one minute to feel the vape high get kicked up a few notches from eating the ABV buds. I feel it more all over my body when I eat the ABV buds. If I dont eat my ABV buds I feel a more Sativa-ish high (clear, energetic, bright, heady, ect...). Dont forget, the first time man ever got high off of the herb it was ingested not smoked. Dont you remember the story of the original sin in the book of Genesis. Thats right! It was not an apple adam and eve ate in the garden before they got kicked out. It was the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (aka bud) which changed all the rules and later the same fruit God forbid man to partake in is now commanded by God to be used by Hebrew High Priests during the "days of the holy burning of incense." So at first its "dont do it or you will surely die" to "now some of you must partake in the herb during certain times of the year to keep your spirit calibrated." So the same herb that F'd things up for us in Eden, now helps us to deal with living in a sinful world. Oh the irony!!

A good idea mmight be to must throw any ABV into a glass of full fat milk nad let it sit til the end of the sesh and then drink it. ives it time to absorb and you have acure for cottonmouth as well

moonlit knight said:

A good idea mmight be to must throw any ABV into a glass of full fat milk nad let it sit til the end of the sesh and then drink it. ives it time to absorb and you have acure for cottonmouth as well

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Yuck. Milk has never quenched my thirst, since it leaves a film of fat in your mouth.

Since the ABV has already been "activated" by vaping it and you don't need fat or alcohol to get out the goodies, maybe try some Mountain Dew instead. Although ... the carbonation may keep all the particles suspended too much.:/

Hey Koolaid!

hey ag, when are you gonna do some homebrew with abv?

Back in 98 my g/f made a sour cherry stout with an ounce of bud.

As I recall the recipe went something like this;

-10 lbs dark malt extract
-2 lbs sour cherries (and yes she left the pits in, sigh)
-1 lb cracked rye and 1 lb cracked wheat in a hop sock while boiling the wort
-Wyeast Ale yeast
-champagne yeast
-1 ounce pot

The fermentation went for about 4 weeks and then she pitched in the champagne yeast. Went for another 2 weeks and then bottled it (24 650ml bottles).

We tried it at 6 months in the bottle and it was horrible. God awful. It was sour, bitter, about 10% abv and way too strong weed wise.

Thats my only experience with MJ and brewing.

Tom

Howie Feltersnatch said:

moonlit knight said:

A good idea mmight be to must throw any ABV into a glass of full fat milk nad let it sit til the end of the sesh and then drink it. ives it time to absorb and you have acure for cottonmouth as well

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Yuck. Milk has never quenched my thirst, since it leaves a film of fat in your mouth.

Since the ABV has already been "activated" by vaping it and you don't need fat or alcohol to get out the goodies, maybe try some Mountain Dew instead. Although ... the carbonation may keep all the particles suspended too much.:/

Hey Koolaid!

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You don't need fat to release the cannabinoids in this case but you need it to allow more of it to get to everypart of the body. The herb by itself won't do this.

Think of tea leaf and water. You can get some chemicals out of the tea without water due to your body having some water but it isn't efficient because eventually it will dry up your intestines, unless you drink more water, and no chemicals will be released. The same for cannabis. You will get some released but your body won't allow a good amount through unless some fat is with it. This is a good thing because fat helps make other chemicals and by not ingesting fats with the cannabis you are taking away from your body and not allowing it to be it at it's best in a timely manner. In fact your liver may actually get rid of it faster than you want it to because it isn't attached to anything. Plus like I stated fat is like a solvent and helps the cannabinoids go to every part of the body. It does this to all fat soluble chemicals.

realvapedman said:

luchiano said:

I've been telling people to do this for a while on this site because unless you vape at high temps around 400f-440f you aren't getting all the goodies and even then you aren't like beta-carophylene. Plus if you vape your abv at a later date a good amount of the thc will oxidize into cbn due to the heat and oxygen going through the bud and you actually wasted a lot of the thc.

Just vape at whatever temp you like using and eat some nuts, seeds or avocado laced food along with your abv or right before you vape due to the good fats and minerals they contain. Just toss the abv back with some juice preferably orange juice or grape juice and prepare for the nice stone and depending on how low of a temp you vape, prepare for a strong high along with the relaxing stone.

Just ingesting the abv alone isn't very efficient because the chemicals that you want rely on fat being like a solvent and getting it to all parts of the body.

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Fat soluables do get absorbed in the mouth, it just takes longer then non-fat soluables. I do think if the buds are still warm the actives go into your bloodstream through your mouth very quickly. It takes no longer then one minute to feel the vape high get kicked up a few notches from eating the ABV buds. I feel it more all over my body when I eat the ABV buds. If I dont eat my ABV buds I feel a more Sativa-ish high (clear, energetic, bright, heady, ect...). Dont forget, the first time man ever got high off of the herb it was ingested not smoked. Dont you remember the story of the original sin in the book of Genesis. Thats right! It was not an apple adam and eve ate in the garden before they got kicked out. It was the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (aka bud) which changed all the rules and later the same fruit God forbid man to partake in is now commanded by God to be used by Hebrew High Priests during the "days of the holy burning of incense." So at first its "dont do it or you will surely die" to "now some of you must partake in the herb during certain times of the year to keep your spirit calibrated." So the same herb that F'd things up for us in Eden, now helps us to deal with living in a sinful world. Oh the irony!!

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I used to think cannabis was the tree of knowledge but now I don't know because I've also heard it was sex and that theory makes more sense to me when you look at the whole story. Eve recognizing that she was naked, they had two kids and one was rebellious and the other wasn't which came from eve having sex with the "snake" also called satan and having kids from adam and eve. This wasn't good because adam and eve were created to tend to the garden and keep everything up and "God" took care of the making of other individuals but satan taught them about sex. Remember man was made before adam and eve. adam and eve were just brought in to be workers for the garden of eden, they weren't the first people on earth. This is why when cain was banished from the garden he was worried about being killed by other people.

The fruit was not literally something eaten, it was the offspring of something and in this case it was the knowledge of something and that is sex which is VERY POWERFUL. It affects your thought process, your health, and if you have others like you or not. Far more powerful than a plant. This is why the elohim said man is like us now knowing the difference between good and bad. They stated MAN meaning humans at that time and and in the future because now their genes are altered because they had kids by sex which means those kids will soon be effected by sexuality.

The thing is if you know what you're doing sex can be used to make you stronger or it can be used to make you weaker and now it is being used to make people weaker but it always has been used for this purpose because too much ejaculations lowers your dopmamine and actetylcholine levels which means you need more to get you going the next time you have sex which in the long run creates more problems but by controlling ejacultaiton and having a strong prostate by eating healthy fats and other good foods this doesn't happen and you get stronger orgasms which lead to a stronger and relaxed mind.

This is why the story of samson was special. It was about man preventing ejaculation not about is hair. Think about it samson had enormous strength by not cutting is hair but he finds a woman who keeps asking him where does his strength come from and when he tells her she cuts his hair in his sleep and he is weak and able to be taken down but when he get time to restore he knocks down pillars. The hair represented his sexuality and that was connected to ejaculation and what happens when we ejaculate we get tired or weaker. It has been shown that certain animals will have sex constantly ejaculating until they die. They literally cum to death.

Anyway just giving another way to see the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Konrad_Zuse said:

You can eat ABV whole if you wish, it is activated by the heat of your vape, so it's good to go. I've known people who have made abv capsules and have taken it with Orange juice and other stuff. I personally haven't tried it, but it does work.

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I wonder what the does of ABV would be in the capsules. I will have to give this a go as I am reasonable sure this will work. When using something fresh I find it is between .25 and 1.0 grams depending on the potency. Usually about 0.5 for what is available in my part of the world.

Aside from the good question as to whether or not eating it with fats increases bioavailability, I can certainly say eating straight ABV works, and works very well.

I only pack around 0.2g into a MFLB trench, and three times now I've eaten the ABV, and three times I've ended up on another planet somewhere for an extended period of time.

Maybe this sounds crazy, but I actually kind of like the taste, even. It tastes a lot like popcorn. I don't generally vape my herb to dark brown, but now I'm thinking there's no need to overdo it when eating it is such an efficient delivery system.

Given the uncertainty surrounding the long-term effects of exposure to small amounts of ammonia inhaled during vaporization, I'm considering vaping smaller trenches and consuming the vaped herb right after.