Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

JCat

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Guys, sorry bothering you, but VAS is kicking and I just can’t justify it.

I’m reading this thread and every one just loves the Flowerpot, and I’m sure I would. Problem is I can’t afford it.

I have a Omnivap, Mighty, SB Jr and Milaana, and I don’t know, but reading this thread I get the feeling that those vapes are a joke compared to the Flowerpot. I mean, I know you guys love this vape and are maybe a little bit biased, but would the Flowerpot really change my world about vaporizing?

I love my vapes, but reading about the FP I feel like I’m missing too much, like I’m just drinking a shitty store beer while you guys are having a perfectly draft beer. Am I overreacting? Damn, even If I’m not, unfortunately, at the moment, I can’t get the FP.

Sorry the rant, but I think VAS is kicking in and I’m overreacting a bit.


Thank you.
I think any high quality desktop might change your world about vaporizing ... all the vapes you list are portables and there is just nothing like a heavy hitting desktop vape (except maybe a Hopper if you can get a working one ...)
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
I would lie and say happy new year.. that’s all i get. It’s hard to have my birthday and make people drop they’re plans for me. But I get happy every time someone remembers to say happy bday instead of happy been years lol.
Haha that's gold just as I imagined- I was gonna say it must be hard at times not to resent the latter lol!
Also I bet it is like a double anti-climax effect the next day, more noticeable than the respective occasions individually anyway.

Happy returns for Januaru 1st anyway, I'll try and remember to shout you on the next one.:tup:
 

wall

Well-Known Member
I think any high quality desktop might change your world about vaporizing ... all the vapes you list are portables and there is just nothing like a heavy hitting desktop vape (except maybe a Hopper if you can get a working one ...)
I don't know the Mighty works pretty well, the thing I dig about the FP is the high heat it can achieve without a massive fear of combusting but if the mighty was on demand and could put out the clouds it does that would be awesome
 

Oogendoogan

Well-Known Member
Haha that's gold just as I imagined- I was gonna say it must be hard at times not to resent the latter lol!
Also I bet it is like a double anti-climax effect the next day, more noticeable than the respective occasions anyway.

Happy returns for Januaru 1st anyway, I'll try and remember to shout you on the next one.:tup:
Hahaha you are exactly right my friend. I actually love it. I don’t like birthdays much and I hate planning parties or anything much for that matter. It’s nice not to have to plan anything for my birthday haha. Just go through New Year’s Eve like normal and make sure I eat good on New Year’s Day. Pork and sour kraut every year :)

Edit: no I get it in your situation @steama sorry about that. I didn’t see the statement cuz of the edit and this is why I should stay out of things lol. Thank you for being chill and easy to deal with as always. Hope your having a good evening.
 

JCat

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
I don't know the Mighty works pretty well, the thing I dig about the FP is the high heat it can achieve without a massive fear of combusting but if the mighty was on demand and could put out the clouds it does that would be awesome
I've owned a Mighty, it was my go-to portable for a lot of years (and still own my Crafty), but both these vapes are more session vapes whereas with a FP, or an EVO, or a Hopper, one can kill .15g in a single massive hit; to me it results in different effects. The "heavy hitter" desktops can deliver a much more "dab" or "bong" like experience with flowers then a session vape like a Mighty can (just my opinion of course ... don't mean any disrespect) ... and it's great if you also now provide a counter-argument to this to give the OP a real full understanding of the difference based on a couple different viewpoints :)
 

wall

Well-Known Member
I've owned a Mighty, it was my go-to portable for a lot of years (and still own my Crafty), but both these vapes are more session vapes whereas with a FP, or an EVO, or a Hopper, one can kill .15g in a single massive hit; to me it results in different effects. The "heavy hitter" desktops can deliver a much more "dab" or "bong" like experience with flowers then a session vape like a Mighty can (just my opinion of course ... don't mean any disrespect) ... and it's great if you also now provide a counter-argument to this to give the OP a real full understanding of the difference based on a couple different viewpoints :)
I agree with that, I google "heavy hitter cannabis vape" and found the FP and haven't been let down but I still want to try an EVO, I should have jumped on yours faster
 
wall,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
When I read that parent stuff I asked his age as an adult it is my responsibility if I suspect I am dealing with a minor. That is all there is to this
Or you could report the post and let the staff deal with it. If that had happened, I would've edited out the rule-breaking portion of his post (and told him why) and left the rest as he was just asking for advice. Which is exactly what he did himself when confronted with the rule.

Please leave thread moderation to the staff as stepping in can cause ugly flame wars. Speaking of which, I've got a bunch of posts to delete. :ugh:

:peace:
 

Oogendoogan

Well-Known Member
If anyone wants to talk about the newvape flowerpot range of vapes, I'll be reading.
Ok can anyone give me some advice, you in particular but anyone feel free to chime in. I always use the carb cap, always always always lol. And the older style for the SH not the new Ti one. I find the older one to have more restriction and the slanted air hole seems to give my vapor a “swirled” effect that I can see as I pours into the drop down. I own the newer carb cap without a slanted hole and when i use it, I don’t notice this whirlwind pattern in my vapor. Anyways my temps have been set at 642 capped for flower for months now. I guess I’m just trying to change things up so I’m thinking of not using the cap for a while. I’ve seen you custom mod a cap and now the new airhole peg things are out so maybe that’s an easy way to customize mine. I’m wondering, what temps should I try with no cap, and why did you mod your cap?? Could I get some of the benefits you got from modding your cap from the new air hole blocking pieces that newvape is selling? Just been thinking that a couple of simple steps with my carb cap and temps could change up my SH experience quite a bit. I hope everyone is having a great evening.

Cheers :peace::leaf:
 

EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
Ok can anyone give me some advice, you in particular but anyone feel free to chime in. I always use the carb cap, always always always lol. And the older style for the SH not the new Ti one. I find the older one to have more restriction and the slanted air hole seems to give my vapor a “swirled” effect that I can see as I pours into the drop down. I own the newer carb cap without a slanted hole and when i use it, I don’t notice this whirlwind pattern in my vapor. Anyways my temps have been set at 642 capped for flower for months now. I guess I’m just trying to change things up so I’m thinking of not using the cap for a while. I’ve seen you custom mod a cap and now the new airhole peg things are out so maybe that’s an easy way to customize mine. I’m wondering, what temps should I try with no cap, and why did you mod your cap?? Could I get some of the benefits you got from modding your cap from the new air hole blocking pieces that newvape is selling? Just been thinking that a couple of simple steps with my carb cap and temps could change up my SH experience quite a bit. I hope everyone is having a great evening.

Cheers :peace::leaf:

I much preferred the weighty showercap as a carb cap. The 6 holes were an attempt to emulate the effect of using the showercap (lower temps on flower) but without any of the noticeable draw restriction the one hole gave (I cant stand any draw restriction).

And it worked. Meant with the SH, I just kept the 6 hole showercap on the SH permanently as I was solely doing flower. Since I switched back to mostly rosin, the 6 hole wasnt proving so helpful.

EDIT: I have a question for more experienced concentrate users. Does lower dabbing temps mean less reclaim? Does dabbing temp have an effect on reclaim build up?

EDIT2: @Oogendoogan I think the older, heavier showercap also had more draw restriction than the later one, due to thickness of metal.
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Does lower dabbing temps mean less reclaim? Does dabbing temp have an effect on reclaim build up?

Lower temps tend to mean more reclaim as compounds more easily fall out of the vapor phase and condense back into a liquid before they can get to your lungs.

Vapor does not like to be cooled down, so anything that promotes the cooling of vapor will increase reclaim.
 

EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
Lower temps tend to mean more reclaim as compounds more easily fall out of the vapor phase and condense back into a liquid before they can get to your lungs.

Vapor does not like to be cooled down, so anything that promotes the cooling of vapor will increase reclaim.

Thanks.

So just to be clear, in terms of VROD dabs and efficiency of getting shit into my lungs, I'd be better off going with the higher temps I can deal with?

EDIT: 590f feels like I'm getting the whole dab in one go, a more suitable temp for the size of dabs I'm doing. Trying not to go over 600f. I'm still stunned by how much better the dabbing is.
 
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YaMon

Vaping since 2010
@emmdeemo if @steama will allow me to advise one ‘being the five year old’ I have allergy induced asthma and as a result my lungs too are sensitive. With the ShowerHead uncapped on the adjustabowl on NewVape’s supplied 12.5” Stereo matrix rig I am running 747 uncapped. I am not trying to kill a 0.05-0.10g load in one hit, I’m jut trying to fill the glass. Once the glass is full I pull the heat, exhale and empty the glass. Occasionally I lose discipline and leave the heat on too long.. for some strange reason that happens later in the night.

If you do not have the same glass piece, this temp could be very different. Good luck finding your sweet spot! Respect! -YaMon
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
So just to be clear, in terms of VROD dabs and efficiency of getting shit into my lungs, I'd be better off going with the higher temps I can deal with?

Theoretically, but some other things contribute to reclaim promotion beyond the dish temp. The further the vapor travels, the more surface area there is for vapor to cool and condense. That's why I prefer to not use drop downs. And rig choice has a lot to do with it, especially units which use a lot of water, like recyclers (which I call "condensation stations") as they seem to be designed specifically to produce reclaim and should be charged with terp murder!
 

Chris_CH

Company Rep
Company Rep
I’m in the same boat as you man. Would love a test drive hahaha :lol:

Is it chalice festival they will be at in cali next month? I would love to go to any festival that I can Flowerpot at anytime I need to :D

Editing this in. I’ve been wanting a rosin press lately. Units like the cannaclamp intrigue me the most because of the small footprint and ease of use, but I recently got space for a press in my new place. Maybe newvape will have some deals on a press that would come with a PID for 7/10?:brow: That way I could easily get a newvape 20mm coil and a VROD :cool:

Just something for me to think about. Seems like the newvape presses are pretty nice but I have no clue really. Still need to start my research on presses.


We wil lbe at Chalice, if you're near by come up and say hi, we will have everything for everyone to try out, its good fun!
 

Likes2vape

Well-Known Member
I have the OG FP does the dnail sic dish fit? I'm wondering if there is a difference in quality compared to the $10 sic dish
Yes it will that is the exact setup I started with.

Edit: Difference in quality has been discussed at detail further back but the dnail dish is bigger, features wik surface, and some other stuff I forgot. Trust me get it you won’t be disappointed it’ll be an awesome upgrade. Grab the Dnail carb cap with forked dabber if you can.
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
HI guys - as I have stated in the past, the FP is a flower device for me...no dabbing off of it.

And as a result, I'm still very happy with my Showerhead using both the OG handled bowl and I recently got a glass bowl that is marvelous.

It was the one someone posted some pages back on Ebay from seller rainbowplusglass_0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253670318393.

It now says under the listing:

Note: Our glass bowl is around 8mm deeper than many of the models of stock Titanium bowls available. We have given you the extra space to make room for your hemp screens or metal screens in the bottom, or for you to use for larger party-sized loads or nug stacks, if you desire! Please note that in many situations, you may need to increase your air temperature by 10-40 Deg., to achieve the same vapor density. If you desire a bowl of similar volume as Titanium bowls, or do not want to adjust your temperatures much, please wait to order. We will introduce our "Stubby" version of these bowls in the near future.​

And indeed the first one I received had this bowl depth. As you may remember, I favor the OG handled bowl over the Pan Head I also have because with the Pan/Shovel NV went about 2.5 mm deeper on the bowl (like the old stubby) by popular acclaim. And many people have asked for a party bowl.

Me, however, I favor the more shallow bowl depth as I vape alone and would rather reload more often than have a large load size needing in a deeper bowl.

In conversing with the seller, he indicated he had a prototype of the "stubby" bowl he wanted me to try. About the depth of the Pan, not quite as shallow as the OG handled bowl...but we are talking one or two mm either way.

So I tried the prototype and man, this is the tits for me personally. I did up my temps 20 degrees F and got great thick vapor. If you leave the head on the glass bowl for a goodly time, yes...the glass will get very hot and cook your herb...so don't let it sit there for 10 minutes, Baron you idiot! LOL

Now, yes...some flower bits get through the glass gauze if you don't use a screen. But to me it was a big..."so what". It rinses out of the rig easily (I used a simple slit perc stemless can) and indeed I was surprised at the difference in taste. I wasn't fully aware of the degree to which Ti impacted the taste. Still don't mind hitting Ti with the flower (don't like to dab off of Ti, personally) but the glass bowl is very, very nice. Oh, and it doesn't stick.

I will try a screen in the bottom but doubt I will put a hemp fiber filter in it as I do run water in the rig and any particulants (or at least most) are caught by the water). But who knows...maybe I'll get adventurous and try a filter (real act of courage there, eh? hahaha).
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
The temp from the flower pot to the glass piece should be the same regardless unless there is a lot of resistance. Once the vapor enters the piece differences in air flow and temperature could affect your the character of your vapor.

I don’t feel like there is a lot more resistance between the stereo matrix and the single matrix rigs I have, but the experience is totally different with both.. night and day. Single matrix could almost be a J-Hook, requires a lot higher heat setting or lower setting and capped. The later also does not have the capacity of the taller stereo unit, so it’s very difficult to gauge the size of the hit, especially given the lower restriction is delivering a lot more vapor. So the perception is that the rigs are not that different to pull on, but in reality the resistance difference you mention @steama is huge!! I can see some other rigs offering far more resistance. Compared to my other vapes both of these rigs are very free flowing, so resistance is very subjective.
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
I don’t feel like there is a lot more resistance between the stereo matrix and the single matrix rigs I have, but the experience is totally different with both.. night and day. Single matrix could almost be a J-Hook, requires a lot higher heat setting or lower setting and capped. The later also does not have the capacity of the taller stereo unit, so it’s very difficult to gauge the size of the hit, especially given the lower restriction is delivering a lot more vapor. So the perception is that the rigs are not that different to pull on, but in reality the resistance difference you mention @steama is huge!! I can see some other rigs offering far more resistance. Compared to my other vapes both of these rigs are very free flowing, so resistance is very subjective.
I think maybe to put it really simply- different water tools change the way the air is pulled into and through the load and these subtle differences may account for some of the variad temps for equal performance etc?
 

graydeh1

REP for TRVP ATTY, Shellshock/Tectonic and more.
Company Rep
Hi @newvape918 any update on your sic dishes for v-rod?

And so everyone knows I wouldn't recommend the high five sic dish which is a bit shallow, works fine for flower only but does not dab properly.
I'm back to the stock quartz for now...
 
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