Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

psychonaut

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So I’m really new to dabbing, is touching the dish why oil goes up the tool?

Basically that's the cause and effect. Dabs are generally still in acidic form (THC-a) so they will bubble off when exposed to heat, those bubbles will go all over the place including up the dab tool. Then if the dab tool like the dnail carb cap is placed back on it's cap any residual oil can move down the dabber.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
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Well I don’t love the scoop but the pencil works good, ball would be fun to try

I love the standard scoop they send out but too much oil travels up the stem.

That's pretty much my feelings on the scoop, really versatile for various consistencies, but the oil tends to run up the dabber, and the angle of approach with the Halo makes it hard to get that off without just wiping it off onto parchment or something.

I have a titanium paperclip similar to the pencil which is really good at getting the oil off, but the ball point also seems intriguing for its ability to fit in the corners of the dish.

The wedge looks like a pretty good daily driver dabber also, without the scoop for oil to stick to, though I wonder again about fitting a square peg in a round dab.
 

EmDeemo

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That's pretty much my feelings on the scoop, really versatile for various consistencies, but the oil tends to run up the dabber, and the angle of approach with the Halo makes it hard to get that off without just wiping it off onto parchment or something.

I have a titanium paperclip similar to the pencil which is really good at getting the oil off, but the ball point also seems intriguing for its ability to fit in the corners of the dish.

The wedge looks like a pretty good daily driver dabber also, without the scoop for oil to stick to, though I wonder again about fitting a square peg in a round dab.

The original Lollicap I had came with a the tiny ball point dabber and I gave it away with my old FP. Regretted it ever since and just recently bought one again. Very happy to have it back.
 

graydeh1

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Its hard to say...they have been on order for a while from supplier. Seems like SiC dishes are quite a commodity lately.

High5 doesn't have any SiC dishes on their site ... just the quartz one for the hybrid nail ... they also don't have the hybrid nail on their site.

PV carries the High5 hybrid nail, but it is $200 CAD with SiC dish ...

Hi man, yes I bought the hybrid nail from planetvape.ca and im usimg that sic dish.
Maybe email planetvape.ca , they usually answer quick enough.
Also if in usa email highfive.

As mentioned the dish is more shallow, I always use carb cap, uncapped the ring effect is nuts on this dish. I will still buy the newvape one when it drops. It is neat to have the options of shallow and stock.
Also like I said us early adopters ( the ring effect clan?) Are the only ones who can go middle hole open or middle whole plugged.
 

JCat

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Adapter cable #1 ready ... for standard XLR-5 pin (d-nail, auber instruments, etc.) built with a 2.5" cable in between connectors.

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ParanoidAndroid998

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That's pretty much my feelings on the scoop, really versatile for various consistencies, but the oil tends to run up the dabber, and the angle of approach with the Halo makes it hard to get that off without just wiping it off onto parchment or something.

I have a titanium paperclip similar to the pencil which is really good at getting the oil off, but the ball point also seems intriguing for its ability to fit in the corners of the dish.

The wedge looks like a pretty good daily driver dabber also, without the scoop for oil to stick to, though I wonder again about fitting a square peg in a round dab.
I use the ball point dabber constantly. I find it's good for bowl stirring as well cause the blunt tip glides over the screen.
 

graydeh1

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I really think it has to be the shallowness. Maybe some physics going on we cant see.
But I know only with this shallower dish uncapped its bright green in the middle (pretty much unvaped) with just a ring of roast around the outside.

The air coming in is a few mm closer, this changes things. Ill do a bowl uncapped and show u. Its CRAZY ;)
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
@Danksta I think its the roundness and lack of mass that make those tools so effective at getting the oil off before it runs up the dabber via capillary effect. My little Ti paperclip works bitchin but it's not threaded and I kinda like having the carb cap and dabber in the same hand, although the heat build up is a trade off for multiple dabs.

Might have to try the D-nail fork though too. Friends is the Dnail fork 10-24 threaded also?

I really think it has to be the shallowness. Maybe some physics going on we cant see.
But I know only with this shallower dish its bright green in the middle (pretty much unvaped) with just a ring of roast around the outside.

The air coming in is a few mm closer, this changes things. Ill do a bowl uncapped and show u. Its CRAZY ;)

Have you tried hitting it without the SiC dish installed? I don't doubt that the ring goes away with the carb cap, mine does too, but I would be pretty surprised if the dish was the cause.
 

graydeh1

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Yes, with the newvape quartz dish uncapped it has a ring, but not nearly as accute as with this shallow dish. Remember this dish is a few mm more shallow.

I will up a pic of both for sc-hi-ence
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Yes, with the newvape quartz dish uncapped it has a ring, but not nearly as accute as with this shallow dish. Remember this dish is a few mm more shallow.

I will up a pic of both for sc-hi-ence

You should try one with no dish installed for highence :D just straight titanium :rockon:

I'd help you test but.... I REALLY gotta take this dab :lol:

Yes it is, here's the form on the Ti universal showercap

I knew you would know! :cheers:
I coulda swore I saw it in the thread, but sometimes I get too ripped to be certain :whoa:
 

EmDeemo

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All of your feedback has been with dabbing on the SIC dish. How's the FLOWER performance treating ya? :brow:

Ring. Got it. I see now.

Its not lasting tho. As I get towards the end of the bowl, the centre is filling in brown and the outer ring is not overly darkening.

In fact, now I'm at the end of the bowl, I cant even see that there was a ring.

So I guess performance is... different to the SH rather than less. The OGFP, the localised vaping that had NEEDED stirring, whereas I purposefully havent stirred this bowl once and its evenly browned.

585f. Half full bowl of flower, no dab.
 

eckstant

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I received my vrod last night and it's awesome, got super high on accident. I have 1 question though, is the double-weave titanium screen supposed to be so loose in the bowl? It just drops in there and falls out when I empty the bowl, tried 2 of the screens they included and both are the same, kinda annoying.
 

wall

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I received my vrod last night and it's awesome, got super high on accident. I have 1 question though, is the double-weave titanium screen supposed to be so loose in the bowl? It just drops in there and falls out when I empty the bowl, tried 2 of the screens they included and both are the same, kinda annoying.
Yep, get the double weave and that issue goes away
 

EmDeemo

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I cant help but think that big hole in the middle of the VROD is asking for some sort of a custom designed crazy turbulence inducing centre spiral air path thing?

EDIT: Its the kind of thing I'm sure you all must have discussed already, right?
 
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YaMon

Vaping since 2010
I was curious what most of you prefer for the body on your FlowrPot...14mm or 18mm? What (if any) are the advantages/disadvantages to having the 14mm VS. 18mm connection on the FlowerPot. It won't fit your glass without an adapter if it's the wrong size for you is a given...are there any other advantages or disadvantages?

Thank You...

18mm as it's bigger and bigger is better! :evil:

TLDR: got a new piece, but have to lower temps 100 degrees to get comparable results? can anyone help explain why that may be?

so, i got a new piece yesterday that is going to be dedicated to the flowerpot.

https://www.dhgate.com/product/12-inch-ccg-straight-fab-glass-bongs-oil/402029338.html

but i have been using the flowerpot on a larger piece since i received it shortly after the last 420 sale (2018). showerhead @ 750, vrod @ 650 using an ~18" straight tube, approx 2" in diameter. the perc on the tube is a custom job by a local guy. its almost like a fritted disk, however its not frits, he calls it loop-stitch, where the glass is almost crochet like.

anyway, the new piece arrived yesterday, its 18mm, where as the straight tube is 14mm, so while the flowerpot was heating up, i gave the new piece a quick iso wash. filled it with water swapped out the 14mm post for the 18mm post in the shovelhead.

first pull, oh shit, i see that bright orange glow through the showerhead holes... damn, combusted.

wiped everything out, rinsed out the bong, and proceeded to try again, pulled just a hair faster this time, and much better results. still seemed a little hot though. by now the wife is home and im loading her up a bowl, she's anxious to try the new piece as well.

shes almost done with her pull and again, bright orange glow. she says the vapor is much harsher than with the straight tube. again wipe out the bowl, change the water, and lower the PID to 650. wait for it to stabilize and we try again. much much better results this time.

has anyone else had similar experiences? do you have to adjust temp (drastically?) if you change bongs? can anyone help pinpoint why i combust at 750 uncapped on the 12" straight fab, but dont on the 18" straight tube?



like the little pin on the head of those, makes for easier removal! good idea...

That's pretty normal with the Showerhead, especially if the straight tube uses a removable downstem. Those type of tubes tend to have very little draw restriction compared to the backpressure chug of a stemless design like the CCG.

yes, part of the reason for a new bong was the diffusion, on the straight tube it was killing flavor and just kind of large to be letting sit around all the time. the new piece has much less diffusion, much less restriction also. i just found it weird that i had to lower temps so much.

have not tried the vrod on the new piece yet. hopefully get to try that tonight.. wonder if i'll be sitting at 550 with vrod hooked up.. that'd be 100 degrees less than what i use on the straight tube with vrod.

thanks for your perspective all

I found this when I switched from
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to this:
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Both I purchased from NV. The later with the single shower head is free flowing to the point where it takes a significantly higher temperature and/or capping to have the same cloud density as the first larger piece, and I'm typically on cruise control with that one and a ash catcher at 747 degrees.

I really think it has to be the shallowness. Maybe some physics going on we cant see.
But I know only with this shallower dish uncapped its bright green in the middle (pretty much unvaped) with just a ring of roast around the outside.

The air coming in is a few mm closer, this changes things. Ill do a bowl uncapped and show u. Its CRAZY ;)

Yep, get the double weave and that issue goes away

I think it's due to Marangoni/thermocapillary flow which calls out the temperature-dependent surface tension.

Vape on! Respect! -YaMon
 

ParanoidAndroid998

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18mm as it's bigger and bigger is better! :evil:







I found this when I switched from
9301-large.jpg

to this:
9110-1.jpg


Both I purchased from NV. The later with the single shower head is free flowing to the point where it takes a significantly higher temperature and/or capping to have the same cloud density as the first larger piece, and I'm typically on cruise control with that one and a ash catcher at 747 degrees.





I think it's due to Marangoni/thermocapillary flow which calls out the temperature-dependent surface tension.

Vape on! Respect! -YaMon
I own the D020-D which is similar to that side car single matrix, but the first one you posted (double matrix) is exactly what I've been looking for. Dunno how I missed it. Can you talk a little more about how you like/dislike it?

Edit: On second thought, if it's the same size as this one, I'm not interested. I'm looking for a shorter version.
 
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