The Nomad From Morwood

@Shit Snacks , I will be installing a body screen into any Nomads that have not gone out, and all future Nomads. I figure, it's easier to pop this screen out... than it is to put one in.

With all the tiny details I obsessed over, it's... of course.. something I totally overlooked that's come to the top of discussion. I suppose that's how it goes, haha. It'll be my focus for the next little while, that's for sure.

Dan Morrison said:

@Shit Snacks , I will be installing a body screen into any Nomads that have not gone out, and all future Nomads. I figure, it's easier to pop this screen out... than it is to put one in.

With all the tiny details I obsessed over, it's... of course.. something I totally overlooked that's come to the top of discussion. I suppose that's how it goes, haha. It'll be my focus for the next little while, that's for sure.

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Haha yeah ain't that always the way?
You are still doing great though!

delloy said:

@Dan Morrison I now want a custom blackwood screen loading/unloading stick with ringed screen depth indicators and lichen button inlay to the end

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LOL
The Nomad accessory market starts here ^

I too favour a single screen stem and pre fitted oven screen, but it looks like a trivial task for those of us without dexterity issues.
It's great that Dan is willing to further assist Fat Freddy to come to a satisfying solution

Since only first adopters will be getting both heaters, will the rest of us get a choice between the two?
Has a price for spare/alternative heaters been considered yet?
I think I'd like both right off the bat.

But I'm getting ahead of myself here , I'm not even in the first batch!

I agree wholeheartedly. A great response from Dan regarding peoples specific requirements. To be applauded

Yeah, can't fault Dan on anything so far: whatever the subject, whatever the angle, down to the smallest detail, everything he does is golden! I think he's genuinely a kind person, no doubt about that. As for being brilliant, well, it shows so much it's not even necessary to say it!

And I’m still waiting for the reports of great taste and a joy to use and hold!

I think the HealthyRips Fury 2 capsules might be a good solution for those who don't like the loading system.



The diameter is 10mm, so they should fit just fine into the 11mm ID of the Nomad stem. The existing stem screen would function as a backstop, and everything should be nice and snug assuming the tolerances aren't out of whack. If things are a little loose, you could put a bit of organic cotton around the capsule to make sure all the hot air travels through the capsule instead of going through the .5mm gap between stem and capsule.

I use them in my Fury and they work very well. HealthyRips is out of stock atm, but hopefully a Nomad owner already has some and can verify if they work. If nobody else in the first batch has any of these capsules, I'll test them when I get my Nomad and report back.

(HR also sells stainless steel oil/wax pads which are slighty wider than the capsules, but should still be a good fit for the Nomad stem.)

https://www.healthyrips.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html

CL52613 said:

While patiently waiting for my Nomad, second batch I believe #39, I am getting a little anxious regarding the loading of material and screen placements. Being extremely challenged in the hand dexterity department, I am freaking a bit in regard to having to remove both screens to clear the stem and than having to insert one screen, than load material, and insert the second screen. There is absolutely no way I could insert the screen into the stem with cut side facing inside unless I were to insert with dome side in and pushed through the stem to the opposite end. I could insert one screen in from the mouthpiece end, like I do for the Enano, but if I insert the heater side screen with the dome in, would not that create a greater distance between heater and material? And all things being equal, it seems the distance would make a higher temperature necessary to produce the same results if the distance and temperature were both reduced? Please bear in mind I am a bit anal, and like all my tools very clean and as close to pristine as possible. The thought of cutting a heater screen to size so I might replace the bottom domed screen is not in my wheelhouse. This screen would have to be removed frequently, which I see myself doing but can also see the integrity of the land for the stem getting damaged unintentionally. Using the domed screen on the bottom with cut end pointing toward heater would be a perfect opportunity to utilize the med - high heater module. Dan if you should be listening, I would definitely like to invest in the higher temp heater. I am pretty sure it will prove beneficial for my situation. Sorry for the interrupt and its length. Does anything I said make sense or am I fretting without cause?

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I love seeing the nomads arrive but I am actually relieved that I'm in the second batch. I also lack manual dexterity and my hands shake quite a bit. Looking at the start up, it looks pretty complicated. But I'm sure that by the time I get my Nomad, those who have the first batch will have figured out how to simplify using the Nomad including screen placement.

@Dan, do the top hat screen fit facing outward on the glass stem? I use them with my stems and then fill and tap with a wooden dowel to compact. Also if specs are tight could you offer wooden stem that accepts them and fits perfect in the Nomad.

Beautiful vape. I think we all appreciate your craftsmanship and concerns for the masses.

A couple of questions: Will the Ddave basket screens work with the nomad? He makes 14 and 18mm ones. And is there any way to use a whip with the stems? I've gotten lazy about using bubblers and have found that a whip cools enough for most of my vapes.

marduk said:

I think the HealthyRips Fury 2 capsules might be a good solution for those who don't like the loading system.

The diameter is 10mm, so they should fit just fine into the 11mm ID of the Nomad stem. The existing stem screen would function as a backstop, and everything should be nice and snug assuming the tolerances aren't out of whack. If things are a little loose, you could put a bit of organic cotton around the capsule to make sure all the hot air travels through the capsule instead of going through the .5mm gap between stem and capsule.

I use them in my Fury and they work very well. HealthyRips is out of stock atm, but hopefully a Nomad owner already has some and can verify if they work. If nobody else in the first batch has any of these capsules, I'll test them when I get my Nomad and report back.

(HR also sells stainless steel oil/wax pads which are slighty wider than the capsules, but should still be a good fit for the Nomad stem.)

https://www.healthyrips.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html

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I was going to mention the Evo rimmed basket screens which are a similar idea and seem easy to use as capsules (if they fit), but these seem like a more appropriate depth for me. The main advantage something like the Evo screens is the rim that could hold them at the end of the stem without another screen inside the stem.

It would be less flexible, but at least for some people, a built in screen above the heater and a built in glass screen inside the stem might be a good option too. I’m guessing there are probably already stems with glass screens that would fit out there somewhere.

Before this thread gets too far down the basket screen rabbit hole I'll offer some anxiety quenching tidbits.

I'll take some feedback over the next few days, then craft a solution based on those thoughts, I'll send out the revised parts to anyone who wants em'.

My best idea so far is to cut a flat disc screen to perfectly fit the wood body, and get rid of the top screen in the glass stem entirely.

Dan Morrison said:

Before this thread gets too far down the basket screen rabbit hole I'll offer some anxiety quenching tidbits.

I'll take some feedback over the next few days, then craft a solution based on those thoughts, I'll send out the revised parts to anyone who wants em'.

My best idea so far is to cut a flat disc screen to perfectly fit the wood body, and get rid of the top screen in the glass stem entirely.

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That seems like a good solution to me, and I didn’t mean to push things too far down the basket screen rabbit hole, but the popularity of dosing capsules, etc. will certainly lead some users to give them a shot too.

I do like your original method which seems very flexible and solid, but it’s clearly not the easiest method for users with low dexterity or those who want a quick reload on the go, so I’m glad there will be multiple good options that will work for most people.

Dan Morrison said:

My best idea so far is to cut a flat disc screen to perfectly fit the wood body, and get rid of the top screen in the glass stem entirely.

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I think the flat screen in the body is good, but I would also keep the top screen in the glass stem. This would give people who don't have dexterity problems the option to vary the distance from the heater. I know you can pull the stem out to accomplish the same thing, but the issue I have with that is that the body wood would then be exposed to vapor. After seeing the first pics of the stem/bowl solution you posted, I was looking forward to experimenting with load distance, and I would much rather do it without the heat and vapor being in contact with the body wood.

Another sort of crazy thought I had is that you could encourage people to see the stems as a kind of preloaded cartridge. If the Nomad package included four or five stems along with a leather pouch or kraft paper box with slots for the stems to keep them apart.... Of course, that would require a price increase, and if it was significant, maybe you could offer it as an added cost option for those who want it?

Dan Morrison said:

Before this thread gets too far down the basket screen rabbit hole I'll offer some anxiety quenching tidbits.

I'll take some feedback over the next few days, then craft a solution based on those thoughts, I'll send out the revised parts to anyone who wants em'.

My best idea so far is to cut a flat disc screen to perfectly fit the wood body, and get rid of the top screen in the glass stem entirely.

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As always your response is beyond what is normally expected and reflects your concern and compassion for those with special needs. Your updated tutorial for inserting the screens and material is exactly, with the exception of making an impression on the dome of the top screen to make a more secure fit, how I thought I would have to fit the screens. It eliminates the need for a screen to be placed in the body above the heater element, which would ultimately require periodic cleaning. Fitting the screens in the manner shown in the tutorial would increase the distance of the loaded material from the heater which could make the medium to high heater module a better choice for those of us with dexterity issues? Personally I like not having a screen affixed above the heater, like the Mighty, which is my bane when cleaning that vape. The screen always get deformed and requires replacement, and getting the screen to seat properly is a chore. Your method of loading is quick, clean, and not to taxing even using hands with useless thumbs. Installing the top screen with dome toward inside can be done as your tutorial shows or by setting the screen on the stem and pushing it inside with a pencil or something similar, since the dome would help to facilitate entry into the stem. Anyone with physical disabilities knows that products made to accommodate for their physical limitations will be more expensive than those made for the general public. It may seem unfair but is unfortunately the nature of the beast. With that in mind, I would have no problem paying a reasonable up-charge to have both heater modules included with my Nomad. Regardless of how you ultimately decide to address the issue of screens and stem loading, I really do like the double screen sandwich method, and even if the additional heater is not necessary, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Finally I would just like to thank you for being a concerned and compassionate artist, craftsman, and business man. You have set a very high standard of integrity, one I hope others in this new and evolving industry will try to uphold. Many thanks and most sincere appreciation and hopes for a successful venture my friend.

Some Nomad-specific basket capsules similar to the Fury ones mentioned above would be kind of nice. I would be down to buy a whole batch of them if they were available.

CL52613 said:

I like not having a screen affixed above the heater, like the Mighty, which is my bane when cleaning that vape.

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I understand this concern partially but not completely because I've never used a Mighty. Isn't the Mighty principally a conduction vape? You put the herb right into an oven the draw the vapor from the oven through a screen? When vapor passes through a screen, the screen needs cleaning. But not so with the Nomad screen we're referring to here. Only hot air passes through it, no vapor. Nothing but the occasional loose piece of herb dropping down from the stem should ever touch it and that should get toasted immediately and leave little to no residue. No cleaning whatsoever should be required. My apologies if I'm misunderstanding how the Mighty works.

Don't mind me.
Just drooling with jealousy.
Waiting patiently for my turn.

GetLeft said:

I understand this concern partially but not completely because I've never used a Mighty. Isn't the Mighty principally a conduction vape? You put the herb right into an oven the draw the vapor from the oven through a screen? When vapor passes through a screen, the screen needs cleaning. But not so with the Nomad screen we're referring to here. Only hot air passes through it, no vapor. Nothing but the occasional loose piece of herb dropping down from the stem should ever touch it and that should get toasted immediately and leave little to no residue. No cleaning whatsoever should be required. My apologies if I'm misunderstanding how the Mighty works.

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You are correct about the Mighty, but there is a screen at the bottom of heat chamber, above the heater. One thing we all have to remember, Dan Morrison is only one man, and considering the fact that he is trying to complete the Nomads already ordered, while tweaking its design to improve performance and ease of usability, asking him to make accessories which would require significant R & D in order to satisfy his design ethics and the myriad wish lists being expressed, perhaps we should all chill and allow him to complete the task at hand, before inundating him with endless new ones. I think the simple solution shown in his updated tutorial for screen installation should be more than adequate for the majority of us, disabled or healthy, and we all know if someone should require something more, Dan will do all he can to give that person a satisfactory solution.

CL52613 said:

You are correct about the Mighty, but there is a screen at the bottom of heat chamber, above the heater. One thing we all have to remember, Dan Morrison is only one man, and considering the fact that he is trying to complete the Nomads already ordered, while tweaking its design to improve performance and ease of usability, asking him to make accessories which would require significant R & D in order to satisfy his design ethics and the myriad wish lists being expressed, perhaps we should all chill and allow him to complete the task at hand, before inundating him with endless new ones. I think the simple solution shown in his updated tutorial for screen installation should be more than adequate for the majority of us, disabled or healthy, and we all know if someone should require something more, Dan will do all he can to give that person a satisfactory solution.

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^ +1 ^
Like others have mentioned, a screen betweem the oven and load is highly unlikely to need cleaning often (if ever) in a convection device.
I have a couple of Milaana's and have never had to clean the oven screen (which is just as well, as they're permanent fixtures in the Mi, unlike Dans design which will allow removal for occasional 'deep' cleaning ).
I've had them for a long time now, and they've seen plenty of use, and all that the oven screen has required is a light brush occasionally, and maybe some very minor picking with the point of a kebab skewer to satisfy my ocd.
They remain spotless.
I love that in the Nomad we will be able to remove the sleeve, remove the heater and have access to the underside of any heater screen we decide to fit, to either give it a clean in situ (which is all I believe it will ever need, even for clean freaks like me) , or even remove it to clean or replace (but let's face it, a screen here is never going to need replacing unless someone lets a huge load of concentrate melt down on to it and harden without vaping it).
The Nomad with sleeve/heater removed is basically a tube with a screen (if iftted) which should be fairly easily pushed out from below.
It's nice to know we'll be covered in all eventualities though.
Good grief, even the HEATER is easily replacable!

I guess that 'easily' is a different prospect to those with impaired dexterity, but I really do believe that removing any heater screen will likely NEVER be required, and if it is, will be easier than any similar vape in existance.
I excitedly await more reports

I have no dog in this fight, but maybe my 2-cents will give Dan an idea.

I have the Splinter (which I believe holds true for the Milaana, too). There's a fixed screen above the heater & the basket screen that goes in the stem joint. You can either use a rimless or rimmed basket screen (which sits on the rim of the stem joint in the stem. I believe that the rimmed screen, which I use, uses around .1 gram --if I'm wrong, @Shit Snacks can correct me.) Then if you tamp the herb down lightly in the basket, no herb falls out from the stem onto the fixed screen above the heater in the vape. Naturally, after your first draw, the herb condenses & coagulates (for lack of a better word) so you don't have to worry anymore about herb falling onto the heater. Occasionally, I will get 1 tiny piece of herb when initially inserting the stem that does fall onto the heater screen (which always seems to get stuck between the screen rim & glass insert), so when I remove the stem, I'll use a cheap Elf eye brush from the $1 store to brush is out.

I also have the e-nano with has a fixed screen above the heating element. I use the fixed-screen glass stem with it because I hate using stem screens. (I find the Ghost MV-1's crucible system a joy to use compared to having to fuss with stem screens -- big, ungraceful paws.) I don't use an upper stem screen to prevent herb inhalation on the initial draw (before the herb condensing/coalgulating), but if I did, the screen would not have to be removed frequently.

I'm guessing that the advantage of using a double stem screen option is that it allows a larger herb load if desired?

Dan, I think the Nomad is a beautiful work of art. Congrats!

CL52613 said:

You are correct about the Mighty, but there is a screen at the bottom of heat chamber, above the heater. One thing we all have to remember, Dan Morrison is only one man, and considering the fact that he is trying to complete the Nomads already ordered, while tweaking its design to improve performance and ease of usability, asking him to make accessories which would require significant R & D in order to satisfy his design ethics and the myriad wish lists being expressed, perhaps we should all chill and allow him to complete the task at hand, before inundating him with endless new ones. I think the simple solution shown in his updated tutorial for screen installation should be more than adequate for the majority of us, disabled or healthy, and we all know if someone should require something more, Dan will do all he can to give that person a satisfactory solution.

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Plus one to this, over here. Cheers! D ps. So extremely jazzed to see this whole process unfold. As a 2nd list guy, I get to watch all this get together, much respect, Mr Dan, take you time. . D.

Summer said:

I have no dog in this fight, but maybe my 2-cents will give Dan an idea.

I have the Splinter (which I believe holds true for the Milaana, too). There's a fixed screen above the heater & the basket screen that goes in the stem joint. You can either use a rimless or rimmed basket screen (which sits on the rim of the stem joint in the stem. I believe that the rimmed screen, which I use, uses around .1 gram --if I'm wrong, @Shit Snacks can correct me.) Then if you tamp the herb down lightly in the basket, no herb falls out from the stem onto the fixed screen above the heater in the vape. Naturally, after your first draw, the herb condenses & coagulates (for lack of a better word) so you don't have to worry anymore about herb falling onto the heater. Occasionally, I will get 1 tiny piece of herb when initially inserting the stem that does fall onto the heater screen (which always seems to get stuck between the screen rim & glass insert), so when I remove the stem, I'll use a cheap Elf eye brush from the $1 store to brush is out.

I also have the e-nano with has a fixed screen above the heating element. I use the fixed-screen glass stem with it because I hate using stem screens. (I find the Ghost MV-1's crucible system a joy to use compared to having to fuss with stem screens -- big, ungraceful paws.) I don't use an upper stem screen to prevent herb inhalation on the initial draw (before the herb condensing/coalgulating), but if I did, the screen would not have to be removed frequently.

I'm guessing that the advantage of using a double stem screen option is that it allows a larger herb load if desired?

Dan, I think the Nomad is a beautiful work of art. Congrats!

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I agree about the rimmed screens. I use them on most of my vapes and they are easy. But the splinter uses a standard sized glass- 18mm and screens that size are all over. Anyway I know that Dan will come up with a solution for those of us who aren't the most coordinated.

Nomad #12 has landed in Las Vegas. It actually got here Saturday but i have all my important mail shipped to my office so i had to wait until today to finally get it in my hands. I'll try to get a quick session before i get home but we'll see how that goes.

I put together a quick travel case for the ride home. This one is only temporary until i can put together a case worthy of the Nomad.



EDIT: Can I also add how awesome the placement of the serial number is. I didn't even realize it was the serial number till I really looked hard at it.

Will somebody please USE one already and report on how great it is !?!