ataxian
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Herb Grinders
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Move to where your MOM is!
Don't be scared: The glass is half full!
muunch
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@Winegums
I noticed you saying stuff about unbroken calyxes - specifically preferring them in convection devices. Just curious if/why this is of note for you, since I've seen you mention it a few times now, and now you got me thinking maybe I need a finer grind again?
I can't say I really have noticed a huge taste difference... which is why I switched to a coarser grinder anyway, was hoping for a compromise between flavor and roasting but idk...
Anyone care to comment on this?
e: sry i don't mean to sound confrontational, genuinely curious about this
I noticed you saying stuff about unbroken calyxes - specifically preferring them in convection devices. Just curious if/why this is of note for you, since I've seen you mention it a few times now, and now you got me thinking maybe I need a finer grind again?
I can't say I really have noticed a huge taste difference... which is why I switched to a coarser grinder anyway, was hoping for a compromise between flavor and roasting but idk...
Anyone care to comment on this?
e: sry i don't mean to sound confrontational, genuinely curious about this
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I am still grinding away with my medium space case 2 piece. I too love to keep the kief on the buds, but anymore I'm not grinding I'm smashing. So I got a supply of brick weed now a days.
ataxian
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COLAS (monkey tails in SPANISH) are what to look 4?
Nuggets are easy to get!
SMALL buds didn't get the light they needed!
MED / COURSE R what I have. sizzor's is what I started with.
I want fine grind for some STRAINS & VAPORIZERS.
3 grinder's is all 1 need's!
HERB GRINDER = MICRO-WAVE = CONVENIENT
muunch
hotboxing the cockpit
I'm a cheap bastard, and I wanted to thin out my crap so I sold my kannastors! Plus gr8tr is an crap name, but anyway.
The jyarz grinder is great and definitely serves a purpose in my collection, but I am reconsidering buying another "mill" type grinder for a mulch-type end production, rather than just shredding the herb.
I'm not sure grind consistency affects taste as much as I had thought, but perhaps this is the wrong thread...
I thought about getting a fine grinder but if my herb is dry it grinds up fine? I like to keep all my buds 62-65% RH for freshness and proper pressing. Those buds always grind up a lil coarser which I like. I control my grind with RH of buds.
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
I'm a cheap bastard, and I wanted to thin out my crap so I sold my kannastors! Plus gr8tr is an crap name, but anyway.
The jyarz grinder is great and definitely serves a purpose in my collection, but I am reconsidering buying another "mill" type grinder for a mulch-type end production, rather than just shredding the herb.
I'm not sure grind consistency affects taste as much as I had thought, but perhaps this is the wrong thread...
So, ya finally sold the larger one, eh?
I've been pretty happy with that smaller 3-piece GR8TR (Yes, the name annoys the fuck out of me too), though, the SLX 2.0 still does 75% of my grinding.
And I'll break out the NewVape Fine Grinder when I'm feeling squirrelly and just want something different.
I still want a SWII though. Maybe there'll be a 4/20 sale that'll convince me
I find that if the calyxes aren't broken the convection vapes like my Herbalizer have a hard time heating them to the center. I notice that they're still green on the inside or partially spent when the rest of the load is starting to turn solid brown.
It's not so much a taste thing but more so about efficiency with the material. I've gone through my ABV before and picked out all those calyxes just to see how much was left in them after breaking them up. It was like I had a bowl with only a first hit taken from it. This was when I used my space case for a few buds as an experiment.
As for flavour, I notice that it is more intense with a finer grind but lasts longer with a coarse grind. The consistency of the grind generally determines how evenly all the ABV is roasted. My Space Case has a grind with lots of chunks (3.25mm - 4mm), some fine bits (1mm-2mm), but mostly medium grind (2mm - 3mm). This results in some stuff roasting really fast degrading the taste, some of it not roasting very quickly, and most of it finishing at the same time.
The GR8TR Vape I have produces a very consistent 1mm - 2mm grind that doesn't have much variation in particle size. This results in pretty much all of the ABV being the same consistent roast and the flavour doesn't get muddled as quickly. I have more flavour clarity throughout the bowl and have a better idea of how roasted everything is if that makes sense.
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Yes. Very much this. Not specifically the GR8TR, but that the consistency of the grind is very important in general for even roasting. This is why I've been investing in a variety of grinders recently.
I mean, you can clean it up with your fingers, getting most of the big pieces found in an uneven grind...but avoiding that is the whole reason I use a grinder in the first place!
What's funny is, from way back a decade ago when I used to mostly roll joints and blunts, you'd want a bit of variance in your grind to make for quicker air-path through the long rolled joint/blunt. That's exactly the opposite of what you want to happen to the way the air moves through your material when you are using a vaporizer. With a vape, you want to prevent the air from finding a quick easy path through...hence why you want a more even grind and, in many cases, a bit of a finer grind.
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muunch
hotboxing the cockpit
Yeah, the one thing about the gr8tr is that it's stupidly consistent. The herb always looked uniform after being put through it.
I keep all my buds at 62% RH with the bovedas and don't notice a huge issue with the jyarz grinder, I do definitely notice how significantly coarser it is than the kannastor (I also notice the smallest V2s are $75 which is absurd...) but yah. Maybe I should get a v2 when it comes and do some side-by-sides.
I also notice vapor production is usually bigger/more quickly to occur with the finer grind, and with my FP I like the immediate feedback in my WP so I can gauge how to adjust (or not) my breath depending on the hit etc.
Also got me wondering if perhaps the reason I've had trouble de-bowling some of my tubo/vapcap bowls lately is because they haven't been getting roasted all the way through and there is still some stickiness left at the bottom...
Appreciate your insight for sure sir, thank you.
I usually use that as my judge when a bowl is done in my vapcaps. If the material doesn't easily tap out into the ABV bin then I know there's something still left.
I can't justify ordering another GR8TR when the one I have is going to perform exactly the same but with slightly more hassle to change the grinding plates. I don't swap plates very often either.
muunch
hotboxing the cockpit
Yeah - I was only using the coarse plate (I personally found the fine plate TOO fine) so if I do pick another up I plan to get the least expensive one just so I can use that plate again. Perhaps I'll try turning the jyarz grinder upside-down for now?
Regardless it is still nice and something I really enjoy due to it's dual-use nature, but I didn't actually think I'd desire a finer grind more.
muunch
hotboxing the cockpit
Only negative I could really find with those grinders too. If you overpack or whatever, the plate will unscrew. If you twist it the other way you can use that same pressure/etc to tighten it sorta!!
I did try using pliers to like REALLY jam it into the threading so it wouldn't get loose, after I figured out I'd be using the coarse plate 24/7, but didn't work so well lol
Once the plate has loosened in a GR8TR you need to do a full clean because stuff will get stuck between the grinding plate and the mating surface in the grinding chamber. The little bits reduce the contact area and make it easier for the plate to come loose again. I guess this is an advantage the V2 has over the original version since you can always make sure the grinding plate is tight.
Thinking about it the V2 is far easier to machine which is likely the main motivation for them redesigning it. There's quite a few advantages I can think of that certainly speed up their processes.
Rather than having to mill the body and the grinding plate they only have to mill the grinding plates now. They were relying on an internal toothed flange on the body to stop the grinding plate but they now have an outer flange that they use which is far faster to do.
The thicker rounded top and bottom is easier to hold in a lathe, less likely to warp in the chuck jaws during threading, and easier to part off without distorting.
Someone had a hard think about how they could speed up production.
Thinking about it the V2 is far easier to machine which is likely the main motivation for them redesigning it. There's quite a few advantages I can think of that certainly speed up their processes.
Rather than having to mill the body and the grinding plate they only have to mill the grinding plates now. They were relying on an internal toothed flange on the body to stop the grinding plate but they now have an outer flange that they use which is far faster to do.
The thicker rounded top and bottom is easier to hold in a lathe, less likely to warp in the chuck jaws during threading, and easier to part off without distorting.
Someone had a hard think about how they could speed up production.
They changed the grinding plates slightly around the magnets and the slot shape on the vape plate. Besides those changes I really don't see much.
The threading looks to be the same as before so no difference on that front. I really wish more grinder companies would do what Cali crusher has done with their grinder threading. It's the ideal solution to having to turn the grinder so many times to take it apart.
The threading looks to be the same as before so no difference on that front. I really wish more grinder companies would do what Cali crusher has done with their grinder threading. It's the ideal solution to having to turn the grinder so many times to take it apart. [IMG said:
I have to say this is a feature I have grown to appreciate quite a bit. I have two Phoenician and a Lift that all sport that quarter turn technology. I knew it was something that I liked, didn't realize how much until I went to open my Golden Gate grinder and hated all the turns I was having to make. I may pick up one of these Cali Crushers too. I like that space to put the bud so you don't have to squish the two halves together. The Lift features this but in a different way, the Phoenicians have it to a degree because of the spacing of the teeth.
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
I should also mention that, though they don't have as good threading as the ones y'all just mentioned, the SLX 2.0 only needs about a half turn to open.
I've appreciated that about it.
GreenHopper
20 going on 60
Same with the SW2. Short threading and a gap in the teeth for a bud.
The only issue with the threading and the bud gap is sometimes the initial torque to begin the grind can tighten the threads up so that opening the grinder can become troublesome. Only had that happen to me a few times though.
Brian Patrick
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Looking for a course grinder. Any suggestions?
I have been vaping a whole bud in my Arizer Solo 2, but would like to try a course grind for a change.
I have been vaping a whole bud in my Arizer Solo 2, but would like to try a course grind for a change.
ataxian
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I'm not a rich guy like some on this site.
Now I like the SOLO 1 a lot.
I stayed at a HOLIDAY INN once
Course MEDIUM FINE = 3 unit's to grind your Herb of choice
@lazylathe know's which one's to get!
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