newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
Wow finally got a response. They said they are only in warranty requests from mid November. LOL. Guess I’ll see my hopper in November.
The key difference, as I was reintroduced whilst getting frustrated last night, is that a passively heated device is no good in the cold or wind. It does the job, and I got some satisfying bong hits, but it's very limiting compared to a hopper. More open airflow, much better flavour, larger chamber but it hits harder and just with a click on.It's funny that you mention the Dynavap M, because ever since I got mine about a week ago it has made me question if I even need a Hopper even with my VAS. My vapes are mostly around the house use so using an induction heater or torch lighter isn't a big deal, especially since it's about the same effort as heating a nail on a rig. Dynavap is also coming out with their own battery powered, waterproof induction heater which means no need to build your own coil or use a torch. If I'm going out to a ballgame, beach, bar or anywhere public I'm bringing a concentrate pen for ultimate stealth, but I also live in a medical state and have that access and understand others do not.
So do I really need a battery powered on demand one hitter vape? No, the M has exceeded my expectations and has been getting me seriously medicated with light packs, medium grinds, and on occasion adding some keif or extract like you mentioned but that isn't necessary for me as long as the strain is quality. It's also 4x cheaper, has no electronics to break and can be run over by a car and still work.
That being said, I've wanted a Grasshopper since I heard about them around '14/15 and have been hoping that they improved since I cancelled my order back in '15. The Dynavap M fits my needs for now but even then I still want a Hopper, but I remember the saying "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results isn't patience, it's insanity." I've seen this company do the same song and dance as a lurker on this forum for years. They announce they have changed and offer some huge sale to lure people in, and then when people start to receive the new and improved Hoppers, some are already reporting issues like on /r/GrassHopperVape, others get no response and the typical extended wait period whether it's warranty or a new sale. All I know is it's the same stuff, same company and a different day. I don't expect anything different unless something changes, that would be insanity.
The air restriction certainly helps, but really if you're getting the bigger clouds from a Dynavap you're getting a broad spectrum hybrid offgas with light charring occuring from conduction on the outer layer of the herb. It doesn't have the power or dynamic to evenly distribute heat through the chamber. It does do a pretty good job, but it's a basic concept which is noticeable from the vapour quality. The best vapour quality from a vapcap is short-lived, even with the SS tip which retains heat best. An active heater makes a big difference, especially when it's hard to overpower.I had an M for a while and can't even imagine it replacing my hopper. It's like saying an Athlon 64 from 2003 is just as good as an i7 8700k. Sure they'll both get the job done (eventually) but they'e really not comparable. The only reason the M even appears to milk things up so good is because of the insane draw restriction.
They might both make vapes, but HL is an electrical engineering start up and Dynavap is a mechanical engineering start up and their products have polar opposite complexities at play.One provides a how-to while the other provides a how-not-to
I'm pretty sure that'd be their key motivating factor. They obviously have passion, but they're aware of what they've at least designed.What I do find astounding, is that if GH ever gets their shit remotely together they will have a HUGE success on their hands. It's too bad they don't see that
This back up has been since Oct/Nov, before that problems were ripe but the turnover was reasonable.over the last three years as a small team controlling the bleed, catching up fulfilling orders of units and then losing money and time on warranty repairs that are backed up for months
Cut to the chase and get a Sublimatorif it can be better than that then I have no idea what's in store for me
Yeah sounds about rightWow finally got a response. They said they are only in warranty requests from mid November. LOL. Guess I’ll see my hopper in November.
You do know there is a Dynavap thread right? You're comparing apples to oranges, Hopper is a battery powered electronic pure convection vape. The M is an externally powered, non regulated conduction vape, there's a huge difference in function and experience from them both if you're not aware. Effects are subjective from user to user so I'm not going to tell you what you like best but in my experience the vapcaps come no where even close to the vapor quality of a hopper. The hopper design is much more advanced in all aspect than any other vape on the market, to expect a zero percent failure rate at any point throughout it's existence is simply unrealistic. Hope you get to try one out soon and then you'll get some user experience under your belt, cheers!My M milks bubblers, but I also have the 2018 with better airflow. I haven't used a Hopper so I have no direct comparison, but I do know that it work's 100% of the time. Availability is the best ability in my book.
I thought we're all comparing apples to oranges on FC. I'm fully aware of the difference between butane/electricity, convection/conduction, used both to vape over the last 10 years and of course I know there is a Dynavap thread but someone mentioned it in here and I like to compare vapes. There's a vape for every situation. I don't think there is a problem doing that in here. If I started this comparison over there, what kind of feedback would they give me about the Hopper? They would tell me to come here . Thanks to posting in here, I now know the M will be shit in the snow so I can avoid that. I'm not saying the Vapcap is better than the Hopper, I'm clearly ruffling feathers so let's make that clear, I'm saying that it works best for me right now. Like I said I still want a Hopper, I'm just not sticking with my order while this backup happens because I have no idea what is going on with the company and don't want to lose money if they are going under.You do know there is a Dynavap thread right? You're comparing apples to oranges, Hopper is a battery powered electronic pure convection vape. The M is an externally powered, non regulated conduction vape, there's a huge difference in function and experience from them both if you're not aware. Effects are subjective from user to user so I'm not going to tell you what you like best but in my experience the vapcaps come no where even close to the vapor quality of a hopper. The hopper design is much more advanced in all aspect than any other vape on the market, to expect a zero percent failure rate at any point throughout it's existence is simply unrealistic. Hope you get to try one out soon and then you'll get some user experience under your belt, cheers!
Talking to others who have helps when it's this hard to get your hands on one@butts how can you compare the two if you haven't tried the Hopper yet?
I don't expect to get one for the time beingNot sure how you expect to get one if you keep cancelling your order.
LOL'd at "Tripping balls".
Well, I've not been here for a looong time, as my pre-order Hopper is still going strong (praise Odin).
Despite working flawlessly, I've always felt that the Hopper was missing one major feature, WOOD:
So I made myself these.
They're Teak, and a total b@~tard to machine.
I had to make a 'rolling carriage' for the bed of my lathe, as my drill-press only extends 50mm, no-where near enough to bore a hole the entire depth of the GH.
It worked, but I borked the fancy drill-bit I bought especially for the task (by forcing it into teak end-grain repeatedly , kept stalling my 370Watt lathe too!, which can't be good for it?)
Clearances are REALLY tight, as I wanted it to be as small as possible.
Failure happened more than success
Never mind, it was worth it.
I really liked my cheap plastic caddy from kfirrer, but I like to think this adds a little bit more class
I originally had plans to make some for sale, but the difficulty level, and tool attrition would almost certainly make them un-sellably expensive ( as compared to the price of other dugouts/stashes I've seen/owned )
I am interested though what folk here would consider a fair price for something like this?
Is this even something which interests you?
Or are you all already rocking fancy cases?
I made another couple of caddies before my drill bit became completely ruined, so I have 5 now.Any news about this project?
They said they are only in warranty requests from mid November. LOL. Guess I’ll see my hopper in November.
That is VERY disappointing...wow. mid-Nov...and no indication of the rate at which they are clearning their backlog. I guess I may see my end of Feb RMA sometime before the end of 2018! haha
I have been using my SB Jr in place of the GH for those late pain sessions and my morning CBD flower session. Fulfills pretty much the same niche....quick, reasonable load size, fast and strong extraction.
I would like my GH back...but I'm not pining for it.
Cheers
I'd just like to know they haven't forgotten about me or my hopper yet. This is very discouraging.
I haven't gotten a reply to my request for a shipping label in ~16 days. Last reply I got took about a month.
I'm probably biased since I got my first fully functional hopper but I say wait. I think it's worth it.Hi all, as I mentioned in a previous post, my Oct 17 hopper is mostly functional and even occasionally fully operational. I’m super picky, but have learned not to be with this amazing device.
That said, I recently ordered both a Fury 2 and and GH backup with the GH being only around $150 for the SST during the March sale. I received my Fury 2 and have started a brief love affair, but need to stay on topic.
I guess I’m on the fence as to if I let my March hopper order ride until X, or cancel and just stick with my current regime. With a mostly working hopper, Fury 2, and M it seems as if I may have all my basis covered? Of course it is ultimately up to me, but I have always valued this community’s opinion since a very long time ago. You could say I caught hopper madness from reading hundreds of pages which is why I paid a 100% markup on eBay back in early 2016.
Hopper works 2/3 of the time well, meaning no flashing blue lights, no back heat, and 2-3 loads per batt. However those times where all of the above is in the opposite direction just has me, well, nervous that I COULD be without a hopper.
So, I guess if you guys were perfectly happy with your lineup but we’re worried about being without a hopper, would you keep your hoppper order in queue or cancel and just be content?!
The SS case delivery was mentioned in their most recent HL update, where they said it (and the charger) would have to be revised to "second quarter, '18". Website still says Estimated Ship Time "March".When are these cases getting released?
I'm still having a "wait and see" approach to buying one, as I am considering waiting up to a year to see if Hopper Labs remains in business and can truly mend their reputation. I don't need a Hopper but like many of you I've discovered there is nothing else like it!
I just hope I get my hopper back before they fold. I can't imagine people are lining up to buy these things. I definitely can't recommend it to anyone.
Olivia just responded to me
Hi Joe,
My apologies I had not replied, I was out of the office. I can have your Grasshopper sent out today.
Kind regards,
Olivia
Hopefully its not an empty promise. Still saying processed but I'm not sure how much of an indicator that is. I must say that I'm getting excited though
The device is amazing, but I agree with this sentiment. The headwinds for the company appear severe: with at least a six month backlog of repairs, limited income, and the inability of management to directly and clearly address communication issues, the prospects of long term viability aren't exactly glowing. If I ever need to RMA my hopper, I wouldn't do it until they work through these current challenges.I just hope I get my hopper back before they fold. I can't imagine people are lining up to buy these things. I definitely can't recommend it to anyone.