The ELEV8R from Elev8 Vehicles

I don't have nubs on my heaters and would not even attempt to pull and hold the heater with the sick clip......way too sketchy. I got some of the sprung loaded tongs and they work really good.

Now I just use a 4 x 1.5 inch piece of suede folded in half and tacked together on the loose end to make a mini oven mitt kind of a holder. Works 95% as fast as grabbing it with your own fingers! Just go to a fabric store or cut up some leather gloves...lol



I wont go back to using anything else now because it is so fast and easy....plus more safe than accidentally dropping or falling out of the tongs.

LabPong said:

I don't have nubs on my heaters and would not even attempt to pull and hold the heater with the sick clip......way too sketchy. I got some of the sprung loaded tongs and they work really good.

Now I just use a 4 x 1.5 inch piece of suede folded in half and tacked together on the loose end to make a mini oven mitt kind of a holder. Works 95% as fast as grabbing it with your own fingers! Just go to a fabric store or cut up some leather gloves...lol

I wont go back to using anything else now because it is so fast and easy....plus more safe than accidentally dropping or falling out of the tongs.

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Good day! Can I ask please- How are you keeping the coil in place on the heater with no nubs?

Alexis said:

So you have a coil rigged up for your Elev8r?

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i may have been misunderstood, i haven't got it yet but that's the plan.
I'll have coil and PID coming from Germany and a heater with a nub coming from Colorado.
Since seeing the Elev8r with a coil i've not thought about much else lol.

Alexis said:

Good day! Can I ask please- How are you keeping the coil in place on the heater with no nubs?

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Since the heater is not a perfectly round cylinder, and the tolerance of the coil size over it...pending on how you have to bend a 15.8mm instead of a full 16mm one.....it will/can be tight and not just simply slide off easily. So sometimes it will suspend in position just because it is being torqued on an angle with the coil wiring pulling downward and also the pressure of it hanging there. But if it does slide down all the way and rest on the sick clip.....good deal cause that puts quick heat closer to the load. And this is needed sometimes pending on how low you go with the heat setting on the coil.

Using a coil to heat the Elev8r is very different in vape use here. You are now micro managing the heat amount and time applied. So there are tons of variables compared to just torching the crap out of it and starting with a max temp and allowing it to quickly go down and then drawing at specific times/points of applied heat. This is where you will do a lot of experimenting to see the many differences in hits you get compared to torching it. So far I find that I can get much smoother smaller draws pretty easily. So it is easy to sip more draws out of a load if you want. And quite frankly....I really like doing that with the controller set to turn off in 30 minutes. I wish that setting was built in with the Newvape controllers......how many times have you been out of it and didn't realize you left your controller on needlessly? Me....all the time. haaa

I leave my PID on for about 16 hours a day religiously, just as all the desktop vapes I owned before it. I want a PID feature that gives a slow uptemp for desktop vaporizers, automatically ramping up in temperature over the course of a few minutes to a desired target temperature.

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I leave my PID on for about 16 hours a day religiously, just as all the desktop vapes I owned before it. I want a PID feature that gives a slow uptemp for desktop vaporizers, automatically ramping up in temperature over the course of a few minutes to a desired target temperature.

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That is pretty much how the RDK300 works. I just like it to shut off in 30 mins to remind me I'm slacking and need to finish the load......stop surfing the net and getting side tracked. That....or after the 2nd time it auto shuts off.....its pretty much telling me it's time to go to sleep cause i done be over medical-aided or something.....haaaa

I found that when the coil reaches to about 560 and is set to go to 668 (which it never does) it will settle at hottest about 580 to 612 on average. It will dip down to maybe 520 at times. And if it does this or when it quickly shows the temp dropping consistently for a moment.....I let the coil slide down on the heater and as soon as it touches the cooler metal sick clip..it instantly starts ramping the heat back towards max again.

So when you guys/gals start using a coil setup on the elev8r heater.....you will see some various temp ranges and ramping up and down. Take some time to experiment on finding the max needed heat setting on the controller to get the type of use you want to achieve with the vape. You will find this range of vapor results to be very wide open compared to torching this vape. It is fun, I still torch sometimes to get a few quick big draws when I don't have time to sit around.

EIDIT:

Here is a pic of my coil after I spread it out with a small flat head screw driver and pliers. It is the 15.8mm coil from Auber I got with the RDK300 controller.




And I have found that I can use smaller glass units with the the elev8r and flowerpot....by using drop downs. This one is currently my choice with the coil and elev8r.





And my standards for being small is:



When I hang on to the 2 lower sections...it is like holding a baseball as far as size. Uses a good amount of water for it's size, and I like the free flowing old school perc.....works well.

LabPong said:

And I have found that I can use smaller glass units with the the elev8r

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this is exactly what i wanted to see and hear, nice 1, what size screen are you using?

Buds of War said:

this is exactly what i wanted to see and hear, nice 1, what size screen are you using?

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3/4 inch SS....just slightly domed in the adapter/bowl I use.

Buds of War said:

this is exactly what i wanted to see and hear, nice 1, what size screen are you using?

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I can confirm that the SS fine screens I grabbed from Amazon for the smaller bowl mod- are also a perfect fit for the stock bowl. They are much sturdier and more robust.
The stock screens are quite flimsy and lose their form factor easiky from removal/insertion.

They also let more particulate through. The 20.62 mm fine SS screens dont let so much pass through. But they can be installed in 2 ways as well- flat like stock, or pushed in to be concave in the centre. This actually increases bowl size, and allows a more toppled load where there is more herb in the centre of the airstream.

I tried it both ways in the stock bowl, currently is flat as that seems better to keep the top of the load flat and closer to the heater. I much prefer the sturdier screens.

@LabPong thanks again for all your tips and advice dude.
I have tested out the smaller bowl mod several times now. It definitely is a more powerful exctractor and harder hitter. However, for me there is a substantial amount of throat and upper airway aggravation using this setup. Every time, even with less torching it doesn't seem to be avoidable so far for me and is way less forgiving of slightly longer heat up.

The stock bowl is remarkably forgiving in this sense. I am never really consciously worried about torching a little too long. I just get a denser hit and more wasted, but no lingering suffering or irritation really, even if my congested lungs feel it a bit on the exhale as an unnecessarily large cloud comes out in plumes.

This has just been my experience so far. I've not given up on the bowl mod- I just am preferring to keep my lungs as comfirtable as pos for now, day to day. I also did not get anywhere near the same magical flavour with the smaller bowl, on any one hit. It was more muted, less distinguishable.

I do suspect that despite our mutual feelings that the stock bowl could be improvedvwithna less bulbed base, and closer to the heater... that the stock bowl design- shape, load distance etc- is part of the magic when it comes to the Elev8r's unrivalled taste and smoothness.

But I want to see if I can push the screen down deeper into the bowl. Im sure the load is too close to the heater. The load sits prob 5 mm or more closer to the heater. Im sure if this distance was increased it should improve taste and smoothness. I will see if I can push it deeper down with a dowel.

Either way, Im so looking forward to the coil setup, not so much to trying to spread it apartb though. Hopefully I can manage it.

Alexis...cant wait for you to experiment with the coil setup. Will be interesting.

LabPong said:

Alexis...cant wait for you to experiment with the coil setup. Will be interesting.

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Thanks, Im genuinely looking forward to it. I badly need an easy way to get stoned now. The Elev8r has spoiled me so that it remains DD with supplemental vapcaps.

Until Im ready to get the Herbo, and coil on the go, torching it seems to be for the meantime!
It's just that Im in such a fatigued condition at present, and the torch routines to get my meds are too tiring on top. This shows how much I prefer the Elev8r, the other options seem to fall short.
God I can't make sense. I just really can't wait to have the superior quality, medicinal vapor on tap, better or tightly regulated, with ease and no physical energy or constant attention is required. THAT is what Im so looking forward to. The Herbo will provide this- Im hoping the coil mod will do so as well.
I just hit first full bowl and havent eaten all day (It's 11 pm!) Please forgive my glumness, just weary but all good!

To test for differences between the standard bowl and the "screen in the neck", I did a direct comparison and found that there are no differences in heating time, I even combusted with the standard bowl and because I thought I would need to head 5-10 secs longer. What I found was that the standard bowl works pretty good for loads starting at 0.08g with the taste appearing to be more round and full. I think this is because the herb is packed very loosely in the big bowl with a lot of surface area. With a very sparsely packed bowl, it is, however, essential to use a slow draw speed to avoid a heat channel at the center. The load was very evenly roasted.

I have found that the screen up further in the neck works better for really small loads. It's nowhere near as tasty as a whole bunch of flower, but yeah. I draw essentially the same conclusion as @Schroedinger that it doesn't perceptibly change the heat up time.

I love watching the herb shrink down as I vape using my bubbler. It puts that bowl part right at eye level. That is why I keep using the stock bowl with stock screen placement. I would love to have a sturdier screen come with the vape. It's nice they gave us so many, but they aren't very sturdy and lose their shape quickly. I would rather have less of higher quality.

I haven't used the v8r in like 4 days now. woah. lol When I hit it again it's going to floor me like the very first time.

Schroedinger said:

With a very sparsely packed bowl, it is, however, essential to use a slow draw speed to avoid a heat channel at the center. The load was very evenly roasted.

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This is why I never take more than 2 draws between stirring. Using a small piece of suede/leather to grab the hot heater and clip when I heat with a coil...makes stirring so quick compared to using tongs or other methods.

Diggy Smalls said:

I haven't used the v8r in like 4 days now. woah. lol When I hit it again it's going to floor me like the very first time.

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Hey man, I haven't used mine for about 10 days. The longer it goes the more nervous I am about hitting it again!

Diggy Smalls said:

I have found that the screen up further in the neck works better for really small loads

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Yes, you are right. However, for microdoses (< 0.08g) I have gone back to using my valued vaponic+ that gives me an excellent taste and effect without wasting so much butane for a pinch of herb.
But for bigger loads, the elev8r is the absolute best thing to use.

Schroedinger said:

Yes, you are right. However, for microdoses (< 0.08g) I have gone back to using my valued vaponic+ that gives me an excellent taste and effect without wasting so much butane for a pinch of herb.
But for bigger loads, the elev8r is the absolute best thing to use.

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Unless you have an enail coil setup for the Elev8r.....now I can do any size at any time......provided you give me just a few mins to warm up the coil. I still use the torch sometimes to get big quick pulls when I only need/want 1 or 2 hits. This also turns into a fight for use with my flowerpot...but the flowerpot takes much more time to use before and after the heat cycles.

I love both and also my arizers and vapcap in the rotation as well. No one vape does it all.....some come close....but not when you are old and have high T......

LabPong said:

Unless you have an enail coil setup for the Elev8r.....now I can do any size at any time......provided you give me just a few mins to warm up the coil. I still use the torch sometimes to get big quick pulls when I only need/want 1 or 2 hits. This also turns into a fight for use with my flowerpot...but the flowerpot takes much more time to use before and after the heat cycles.

I love both and also my arizers and vapcap in the rotation as well. No one vape does it all.....some come close....but not when you are old and have high T......

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What's the heat-up time difference between your 'v8r and FP?

The RDK300 heats and cools quicker just because the coil is exposed. But since I do not do higher temps and like to get smaller producing draws off the Elev8r with the coil.....I can usually get through a load just a little bit faster on the RDK compared to the stock flowerpot setup. But with the much longer cool off time the flowerpot takes....I normally do not use it when I do not have more than say 15 mins to deal with.

But since I use my coil and elev8r differently than the flowerpot.....it is only the difference in the cool off time for me right now. But that said....I like doing 1 to 2 draw loads on the flowerpot to keep fresh taste going through my sessions when they are more than 2 or 3 quick draws.

So I feel there is an even balance in use between the two...for me. But the cool down period will always be the deciding factor of what one I may use during the day when I have so much going on. In the evening it is not an issue as I have plenty of relax time.



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Also because I use the coil and elev8r at lower temps...it takes longer to get it heated up and needs a longer time to get the full vapor going...usually 2nd draw when I set the controller to 660-670F. If I went with 700F from the start...it would take much less time to get going. So on average....I hit the heat up button....then about 3 mins later I am going full on. I leave the coil on the heater about 30-60 seconds before drawing pending on indica or sativa and grind/dryness.

So because I use a lower temp.....start up and use time is about the same as the flowerpot when I use at about 600F to 620F. Hope that gives you guys an idea between using these 2 diff coil setups. I think if you use a much higher heat than what I do on the RDK300....say 700-750F.....you would get vapor quicker for sure. But once I get the first 2 draws in.....I can leave the coil on the heater glass much less...just enough to get it back up to the temp I want to use as it stays at a certain temp range.

Diggy Smalls said:

I haven't used the v8r in like 4 days now. woah. lol When I hit it again it's going to floor me like the very first time.

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Mushroomturtle said:

Hey man, I haven't used mine for about 10 days. The longer it goes the more nervous I am about hitting it again!

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Guys, I admire your will power and discipline, but it only takes a day! Not even. I joke but on Thursday early evening I started a decent load of Think Different. Took some heavy hits and was wasted enough. I had an edible dose later but no more vapor that day- much lighter day than normal, I had to go somewhere Friday.

Didn't consume again until Friday 7.30 pm when I hit the remainder of the bowl from thusrday. 3 mass hits and wow- I waa so hammered, like the first times! A definite and noticeable tolerance reset in 26 hours!

I think the Elev8r hits so well, so penetrating is the delivery, that it cuts through tolerance on a daily basis as long as you back off a little to let the effects subside a bit.
That is my theory anyway. Respect your consumption, allow clear consciousness a peak, and the Elev8r will hammer you daily.

@LabPong thanks again for the insights on coil usage. You are really starting to get me excited now, wish it was all here already.

Has anyone tried this with a j hook?

Lazy Lighting said:

Has anyone tried this with a j hook?

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Yes there are some videos with a j-hook....and 7th floor sells a j-hook in the accessories tab for the elev8r. matter of fact here is a video for you:

hoyo77 said:

Yes there are some videos with a j-hook....and 7th floor sells a j-hook in the accessories tab for the elev8r. matter of fact here is a video for you:

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Thanks Brother! Just ordered it!

Lazy Lighting said:

Thanks Brother! Just ordered it!

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I really like the 7th floor j hook, it's narrow but the glass is nice and thick unlike that flimsy one from GRAV.

Lazy Lighting said:

Has anyone tried this with a j hook?

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Funny timing as I have today ISO rinsed my FIRST EVER J hook, from the gate. I bought it with the Vapcap in mind, with an ashcatcher. However, I didnt realise that the ashcatcher wont allow my Omnivap wooden VonG to fit in the intake as the Omni mouthpiece protrudes further out and the ashcatcher downstem narrows just below the joint.

Except I just realised- it should fit fine if I just remove the mouthpiece and keep the condenser in. But I have also intended to use the J hook and ashcatcher with some other vapes as well, not excluding Elev8r. I still have never used the wand yet.

But guys- yesterday I got my Auber rdk-300, only a week no added fees!
And unbelievably, today- the 16 mm coil arrived- FROM CHINA IN ABOUT 1 WEEK TOPS!

So I have the coil setup here unexpectedly early. @LabPong I did it- I stretched the coils apart good, remembering your tips. I just used some pliers and a rag to first tug at the open end/bottom coil to pull it up, then put a screwdriver in and prized the coils apart right to the top so they were all spaced.
Was a little tight but a good fit, but I wanted is loose enough to be no agro to remove so I did what you said and twisted it out a bit with the pliers.

I actually went a bit far, not by much. It is much easier to stretch it open than the other way round. I tried to tighten it a bit but was wary of deforming the coil alignment.
How did I do? You can mark me out of 10!




Im pretty amazed I did this good a job actually. This is a huge achievement for me. In just 15 mins or so after postman got me out of bed with only 4 hours sleep. I put my glasses on and got straight at it (or else I would have gone back to bed and dreamt of the dreaded task very likely.)

Not tested yet, gotta set rdk for the coil now. Im so tired though I may just try the Omni with Jhook first. I am going to keep the coil in a stable mug for now. Will report back soon.