Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

psychonaut

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i think this was asked before, but couldnt find it on the search function. I currently have the whole showerhead setup and am planning to purchase the wraparound for my dnail halo tonight. Is there anything other than the wraparound that I need (like a 16mm or 20mm post???)? I already have the d-nail carb cap and sic/quartz halos. Thanks.

Unless things have changed, when I originally ordered my WA setup, I got these two parts last October, plus the coil cover -

D-Nail Wrap-Around Post for 20mm Coils (3075)

Center Post Coil Nut (9174)
 

buddingglasshead

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The 20 mm post is what you need.... I believe you need the post that has the smaller center for the wraparounds.

Needs the 16mm coil nut purchased one recently.

The standard WA for the import dish has recently changed from the 16mm coil nut to the 20mm coil nut, but neither the 16mm or the 20mm D-nail use it.

specs from that page state it as well.

  • Requires 16mm Coil Nut (sku 9174) I know it seems odd but we have to sell out our current stock

Unless things have changed, when I originally ordered my WA setup, I got these two parts last October, plus the coil cover -

D-Nail Wrap-Around Post for 20mm Coils (3075)

Center Post Coil Nut (9174)

Center Post Coil Nut (9174) is now sold as the 16mm coil nut
 

Hogni

Honi soit qui mal y pense
Is it a fact that the 16mm coil nut is just a sell out? Will the D-Nail WA get a 20mm post too?
 
Hogni,

NewVape420

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i think this was asked before, but couldnt find it on the search function. I currently have the whole showerhead setup and am planning to purchase the wraparound for my dnail halo tonight. Is there anything other than the wraparound that I need (like a 16mm or 20mm post???)? I already have the d-nail carb cap and sic/quartz halos. Thanks.

If you purchase the new WA with the 20mm post (3062), then you can use the same coil nut that you have with your current ShowerHead and do not need to purchase another.

Likewise if you purchased the older style WA (16mm post, 3073) then you would need to purchase the 16mm Coil nut to accompany it. See the WA (20mm Post) diagram below:

Hope this helps!


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biohacker

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If one were to purchase the SiC WA, would there be any reason to also pick up the quartz insert or pointless due to SiC being superior?

Also can anyone who's into convection dabbing compare how the experience is in comparison to the SiC? The highest level i've experienced is quartz, and while okay at lower temps, I feel that convection dabbing with hemp fiber wick is a much better experience.
 

psychonaut

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If one were to purchase the SiC WA, would there be any reason to also pick up the quartz insert or pointless due to SiC being superior?

Also can anyone who's into convection dabbing compare how the experience is in comparison to the SiC? The highest level i've experienced is quartz, and while okay at lower temps, I feel that convection dabbing with hemp fiber wick is a much better experience.


Looking over d-nail's temperature calculator, the SiC beats the quartz halo out in dish temp compared to PID setting, you can go lower with the SiC than the quartz. After talking a lot about this very topic with @invertedisdead who does a lot more research than I do in this area, SiC is going to handle low temp conduction dabs far better than quartz and with an enail it should recover faster. I've been hitting between 525-580F after hearing @shredder running his SiC halo between 470-570F. Personally I find the effects a little weak on the low end, I've not gone below 500F. 550-560F seems to be a nice compromise in effects and flavor without much pooling. So, personally I wouldn't go with quartz but it could be fun to play with. Flavors from 500-525F are pretty damn impressive!

I do remember convection dabs tasting superior.
 

muunch

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Convection dabs even on the SS pad give a much "fuller" feeling taste profile (I could really really taste the mango in my green crack crumble this way) but dabbing off the dish gives me much heavier and fuller effects.

There's my non-science, 1 sentence summary after an evening of testing.

edit: also according to my hexnail, i run my WA with the dish just below 500 degrees. very nice flavor and effects, but convection is def better for taste as we already knew.
 
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Vapetologist

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...SiC is going to handle low temp conduction dabs far better than quartz

Can you or @invertedisdead explain what this even means? Apples to apples, if both dishes are at the same temp how is one 'handling it better'? I kinda feel some of the perceived differences are psychological.

Maybe my taste buds are fried from too many nights with the Pan Licker Association, but I can't tell the difference. Maybe I'm doing it all wrong.

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invertedisdead

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I think you could use lower temperatures with more complete vaporization with SiC then convection (air is not a great conductor). As far as flavors go, I do believe convection dabs are more of an uptemp style hit though from pulling the SH away and watching the extracts boil. I kind of question how much convection is even in a convection dab though, SS pads are quite conductive (many more times than quartz, for example) and the way the oil boils on it still seems like a lot of conduction to me. I still want to try a quartz insert in the bowl for hybrid convection uptemps.

I haven't found a convection medium I didn't feel was contributing its own flavors.

What do I know though, yesterday I was dabbing off a bubble cap as an impromptu nectar collector after watching too many episodes of Intervention.

Can you or @invertedisdead explain what this even means? Apples to apples, if both dishes are at the same temp how is one handling it 'better'? I kinda feel some of the perceived differences are psychological.

Silicon carbide has a much greater conductivity than quartz (over 100x better)
In practice that allows you to run lower temperatures, with more complete vaporization (less pooling)
If you use SiC at the same temp as quartz, you're not really taking advantage of its thermal properties considering how it more effectively transfers heat.
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
I have been using my newly acquired vapes as well as revisiting some of my older classics!
It's been a blast but.... Man have i missed my SH!!

Fired her up today, 638F and a nug pressed into an EQ bowl that fits inside the 18mm post from the PanHead, perfect for micro dosing! Although the nug was 0,1g...
Take a hit, the best flavor in town!! Light clouds.
Flip nug and repeat, sometime twice! great flavor and nice clouds!
Remove and crumble and reload...
Next few hits are seriously huge!! Not such great flavor but very acceptable!
Sweating up a storm presently!! (i am only on hit two, so still a full nug...)

Continually impressed!!
@NewVape710 Never thought i would LOVE Ti so much!!!
You are missed around these parts!
 

Larrytargeteye

Vapin' stevens
Ok so i got my showerhead up and running yesterday!i havent dabbed yet off it but ive tried .05 hits up to .3 sized hits with flower and at first i was not impressed with the flavour(i think this was down to my weed though).i left my kit to heat through for half an hour before i used it as well.anyway today it tasted much better,do these things need to bed/break in a little bit or something?the showerhead is 100% a KO artist,ive never had a t-break in years now and .05 in this did give a me bit a of a hi but i need more than that and this bit of kit is going to serve me well for those higher doses.i hope i dont get anyones back up when i say this though....my ssv with the ddave mod kicks its backside in the flavour department(down to the glass airpath and ceramic heat source as well maybe?)AND in the not so important cloud department as well in my opinion so might still end up being my daily driver!!!ive not wasted any money though because the flowerpot is the boss of high doses and i like big fat bowl for bed so will be used daily.cant wait to dab off it!!! @Alexis thanks for the tagging tip/correction lol
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
Ok so i got my showerhead up and running yesterday!i havent dabbed yet off it but ive tried .05 hits up to .3 sized hits with flower and at first i was not impressed with the flavour(i think this was down to my weed though).i left my kit to heat through for half an hour before i used it as well.anyway today it tasted much better,do these things need to bed/break in a little bit or something?the showerhead is 100% a KO artist,ive never had a t-break in years now and .05 in this did give a me bit a of a hi but i need more than that and this bit of kit is going to serve me well for those higher doses.i hope i dont get anyones back up when i say this though....my ssv with the ddave mod kicks its backside in the flavour department(down to the glass airpath and ceramic heat source as well maybe?)AND in the not so important cloud department as well in my opinion so might still end up being my daily driver!!!ive not wasted any money though because the flowerpot is the boss of high doses and i like big fat bowl for bed so will be used daily.cant wait to dab off it!!! @Alexis thanks for the tagging tip/correction lol

It all depends on the temp you are using, your draw speed and how good your herb is.
I use a fine grind and about 0,05 to 0,1g loads. Temp is around 640F.
The first hit is insanely tasty and then it goes down from there on.
You can also try not grinding and just break off some bits and hit it that was for better flavor! Break up the bits for extra vapor!

I also use an EQ basket, which is a perfect load size for me.
Lots of ways to use this beast!
Give yourself a few days and you will see a huge improvement!
 

Larrytargeteye

Vapin' stevens
It all depends on the temp you are using, your draw speed and how good your herb is.
I use a fine grind and about 0,05 to 0,1g loads. Temp is around 640F.
The first hit is insanely tasty and then it goes down from there on.
You can also try not grinding and just break off some bits and hit it that was for better flavor! Break up the bits for extra vapor!

I also use an EQ basket, which is a perfect load size for me.
Lots of ways to use this beast!
Give yourself a few days and you will see a huge improvement!
Oh yes it will only get better,ive tried an eq basket inside the post and i liked it but think i had the temp a bit low for my draw speed but it was good and probably a good set up to convection dab im guessing.i have not tried the whole nug in the basket yet though.i will try it next!
 

Alexis

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@Alexis thanks for the tagging tip/correction lol
You're welcome dude looks like you are already a qualified expert! No major surprises that you say your SSV gives better flavour at this point. I personally thougjt the flavour with the Showerhead was excellent, but I was using 500-575 though where it really shines taste wise. I only say Im not surprised because others have said how they get better flavour from numerous other vapes (not referring to the Elev8r here).

@Zow237 has just recently become a very happy champion of the SSV, and was very surpised by both its amazing pure flavour AND the size of the clouds, having been through a few good vapes himself. I don't think he has the Showerhead yet though.

Zow you do crack me up dude, you are like a walking vape advert salesman at times, I can't keep up!:lol: You, myself and @biohacker certainly have been on a bit of a testing run with many falling by the wayside. I hope you can find total contentment eventually anyhow..

Sorry Larry, got sidetracked. I have to say though, even without 1st prize (or even 2nd or 3rd?) the FPSH is still a very special, exceptional vaporizer and I have no doubt personally that it would be my daily driver if it was possible.
And I would be here praising it every day.

So just keep playing with the variables to find your happy mediums. It will interesting to see how your opinion on it grows and how it fits in with your other vapes. It seems to be incredibly common, almost normal for people's first use and impressions of a new vape to be disappointing.

Even our grand master vaporist @lazylathe took a surprisingly long time to discover judt how much he loves the Showerhead- basically as much (or a little more I believe) than any other vape ever, (but please correct me if Im wrong Lazy and sorry for speaking wrongly for you in such case.)
 
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Larrytargeteye

Vapin' stevens
You're welcome dude looks lkke you are already a qualified expert! No major surprises that yoy say your SSV gives better flavour at this point. I personallg thougjt the flavour with the Showerhead was excellent, but I was using 500-575 though where it really shines taste wise. I only say Im not surprised because others have said how they get better flavour from numerous other vapes (not referring to the Elev8r here).

@Zow237 has just recently become a very happy champion of the SSV, and was very surpised by both its amazing pure flavour AND the size of the clouds, having been through a few good vapes himself. I don't think he has the Showerhead yet though.

Zow you do crack me up dude, you are like a walking vape advert salesman at times, I can't keep up!:lol: You, myself and @biohacker certainly have been on a bit of a testing run with many falling by the wayside. I hope you can find total contentment eventually anyhow..

Sorry Larry, got sidetracked. I have to say though, even without 1st prize (or even 2nd or 3rd?) the FPSH is still a very special, exceptional vaporizer and I have no doubt personally that it would be my daily driver if it was possible.
And I would be here praising it every day.

So just keep playing with the variables to find your happy mediums. It will interesting to see how your opinion on it grows and how it fits in with your other vapes. It seems to be incredibly common, almost normal for people's first use and impressions of a new vape to be disappointing.

Even our grand master vaporist @lazylathe took a surprisingly long time to discover judt how much he loves the Showerhead- basically as much (or a little more I believe) than any other vape ever, (but please correct me if Im wrong Lazy and sorry for speaking wrongly for you in such case.)
Well i quickly realised months back that one vape will not cover all bases lmao.

im starting to build a fair collection of vapes now.i started with a flowermate and moved straight on to a volcano digit,replaced the flowermate with a pax 3 and now ive got the ssv and f/pot as well(they all get used apart from the flowermate which i sold)but its about time i calmed the fcuk down with the VAS.

im buying an fc-186 to go with 3 other bubblers/bongs i own and thats me done i hope as far as big lumps of money are concerned.

I know exactly where the showerhead is going to fit into my day/night and thats at bedtime when i intend to break out the concentrates or just have a massive MASSIVE treble or quadruple dose.

I didnt realise you could go as low those temps,im enjoying the honeymoon but as soon as i get back to normal ill be happy also because im going through some amount of bud whilst playing with my new toy lol.

I need to try a glass bowl out also.can you just buy them from dhgate or isnt it that simple?i know the fit would need to be bang on!
 

Alexis

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Well i quickly realised months back that one vape will not cover all bases lmao.

im starting to build a fair collection of vapes now.i started with a flowermate and moved straight on to a volcano digit,replaced the flowermate with a pax 3 and now ive got the ssv and f/pot as well(they all get used apart from the flowermate which i sold)but its about time i calmed the fcuk down with the VAS.

im buying an fc-186 to go with 3 other bubblers/bongs i own and thats me done i hope as far as big lumps of money are concerned.

I know exactly where the showerhead is going to fit into my day/night and thats at bedtime when i intend to break out the concentrates or just have a massive MASSIVE treble or quadruple dose.

I didnt realise you could go as low those temps,im enjoying the honeymoon but as soon as i get back to normal ill be happy also because im going through some amount of bud whilst playing with my new toy lol.

I need to try a glass bowl out also.can you just buy them from dhgate or isnt it that simple?i know the fit would need to be bang on!
When you get your FC-186 just be awate that the model Newvape sell and use themselves is slightly different to the tallest 34 cm one by Popular glass.
It is a little shorter, with a less angled mouthpiece which should make it easier to see the tube milk and clear. Maybe a slightly easier pull as well.

You can get at least 5 or 6 different models of the 186 on dhgate. Varying heights and mouthpiece designs. I would probably choose a shorter model now, similar to the Newvape one. I was looking at them all when I bought my 186, but decided to grab Steven's one in the end. I would however recommend a shorter model.
 

Justpassedu

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Ok so i got my showerhead up and running yesterday!i havent dabbed yet off it but ive tried .05 hits up to .3 sized hits with flower and at first i was not impressed with the flavour(i think this was down to my weed though).i left my kit to heat through for half an hour before i used it as well.anyway today it tasted much better,do these things need to bed/break in a little bit or something?the showerhead is 100% a KO artist,ive never had a t-break in years now and .05 in this did give a me bit a of a hi but i need more than that and this bit of kit is going to serve me well for those higher doses.i hope i dont get anyones back up when i say this though....my ssv with the ddave mod kicks its backside in the flavour department(down to the glass airpath and ceramic heat source as well maybe?)AND in the not so important cloud department as well in my opinion so might still end up being my daily driver!!!ive not wasted any money though because the flowerpot is the boss of high doses and i like big fat bowl for bed so will be used daily.cant wait to dab off it!!! @Alexis thanks for the tagging tip/correction lol
Congrats on acquiring one of my favorite desktops ever & welcome. No need to break anything in , in fact when its clean is when you will get the best flavor notes. I will say i have had a few Ssv's in my lifetime way back but feel the flavor was better using my Flower Pot so maybe play with some temps and also remember the glass you are using , material , draw speed ect... can all play a roll in the flavor department. I personally enjoy a temp of 640F - 675F tops wihile using a carb cap.
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
@Larrytargeteye what temps were you trying? My back is far from up, it’s too broken to be up! LOL. The FP for me has resulted in most of my other vapes gathering dust. If I want flavor I’ll dig out my FF2, but given I am a stickler for getting as much goodness out of material as possible the FP is where I spend most of my time and it’s likely I drag my bowls out far too long before changing out for fresh material.

I have a DaBudha, I may have to look into @DDave mod, unfortunately the DaBudha has been sitting idle longer than my Herbalizer, well except for the DaBudha I left down in Jamaica.. Respect! -YaMon
 
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