Squiby

Well-Known Member
What does this 110% conduction analog piece of witchcraft do?

I believe that the Vapcap is a hybrid; a combination of conduction and convection.

The SS tip offers the highest conduction ratio of the Vapcap line. With its slower heating and cooling times the chamber can cook the herb longer.

The ti tips, on the other hand, have more deep exterior tip channels as well as ground grooves allowing heated air to move through the herb, creating a greater convection action.
 

mrb

Accessory Maker
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Since I have figured out how to post pics...shout-out to @stardustsailor for awesome service and work

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SDS is really starting to put some awesome shinz out there!! Respect.

EDIT: Where are you @stardustsailor ? Working too hard I think :clap:
 

WarpaintFree

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Would like some advice on this ^^^

I've been using the omni through a hydratube trying to clear .05 with one hit. It's always 2 as the vapor just stops. I *could* clear in one if it would let me. I stop cuz the vapor stops?

I think I have a solid seal. Great 2 hits. When I carb I can see the restricted airflow in the bubbles and feel the pull of air through the carb. I draw until the cool down clicks.

Help...

In the conditions you describe, the difference between 1 hit and 2 likely comes down to the density and humidity of your bud, as much as anything.

I use my Omni through a beaker bong, and can toast a full capload of some material in one big, click-to-click pull, while others take 2 or even 3 to be fully extracted.
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Would like some advice on this ^^^

I've been using the omni through a hydratube trying to clear .05 with one hit. It's always 2 as the vapor just stops. I *could* clear in one if it would let me. I stop cuz the vapor stops?

I think I have a solid seal. Great 2 hits. When I carb I can see the restricted airflow in the bubbles and feel the pull of air through the carb. I draw until the cool down clicks.

Help...

In the conditions you describe, the difference between 1 hit and 2 likely comes down to the density and humidity of your bud, as much as anything.

I use my Omni through a beaker bong, and can toast a full capload of some material in one big, click-to-click pull, while others take 2 or even 3 to be fully extracted.
I agree. Try grinding some up and leaving it out to dry completely, and then try doing the 1 hit with a single-flame at the right spot on the cap. But make sure the material is completely dry. You'd be surprised at the difference in vapor between totally dry and "it was stored in an airtight container with a Boveda packet inside." Moisture can be a few hits' difference in my experience. I always did prefer slightly dry but not completely with VapCaps.
 

Dynalowrider

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steama, the Pyramid is the best, "in the wind lighter", I have found. When using the "notch" I hold my VC at a 45 degree angle to let the flame bath the cap. I love this lighter. I glued a Dynamag in the cup next to the torch, and have an old stand to hold the lighter cup up. Doc
 

Dynalowrider

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I take it outside, wind blowing, cup keeps flame from blowing out. It doesn't have to be labeled as such to work that way. The reason it's called "tabletop" is it is kinda big to put in your pocket. You could tie a string to it and carry it around your neck. Then it would be a "neck" lighter. Sorry but my "Mini" hasn't arrived yet. The Pyramid is lighter in weight and size than a "Mini" and it doesn't need batteries. Doc
 

pxl_jockey

Just a dude
SDS has been invisible lately. We wish you well, sailor! :tup:
He's consumed in new responsibilities/new job in addition to facilitating our addictions. @Diggy Smalls & I were crying over in his thread and he popped by with this knowledge-bomb. I'm sure once he's settled there, he will be around. I hate it when real life gets in the way of my time here. What did I do before FC?
 

Taazokaan

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I agree. Try grinding some up and leaving it out to dry completely, and then try doing the 1 hit with a single-flame at the right spot on the cap. But make sure the material is completely dry. You'd be surprised at the difference in vapor between totally dry and "it was stored in an airtight container with a Boveda packet inside." Moisture can be a few hits' difference in my experience. I always did prefer slightly dry but not completely with VapCaps.

I've some Cvault with bodeva pack too and this is just amazing ! There is so much difference between a "normal" weed and a weed who are stored and cured some months with boveda ! The taste is better and I can get some huge clouds with it :)
 

Smokey McVape

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Thank god, i am not the only one who thinks about the vapor of the VC.

Why is it so different?
Please, i really want to know.
It has a characteristic taste and smell.
Have you ever smelled on a fresh loaded cap after the click?
Oh wonder, it smells of metal.
Maybe the smell of titanium?
It is in the taste aswell.
Thats not the herb taste that is material taste.
A arizer solo or a mighty have a signature basic material scent/smell on them too.
Dont know.

What does this 110% conduction analog piece of witchcraft do?

You are not alone, i thought the same since the begining. I guess it's flirt with combustion, that's why I so love VC, it vapor seems like smoke but (i hope) it is not.
With most electric vapes the temperature inside the bowl drops when you take a toke - this is why you need to heat soak Solo's etc to get a good hit. However as one of our fellow vapcappers showed about 100 pages back the temperature inside the vapcap bowl INCREASES when you take a hit. I don't pretend to understand the science behind it but I think George has found the golden ratios for vaping in terms of bowl size, heat conduction inside the bowl combined with heat transfer via convection and when you add it all together it gives the most complete extraction available which is why I think the vapor is so thick - you are getting all the goodies at once - typically under a minute compared to an electric vape that can stretch a session out to 10 minutes. I find that my Omnivap will still get vapor from bud that has been run through my Solo 2 until it stopped producing vapor!
Got to love George 'The Wizard' Breiwa.
 
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hinglemccringleberry

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As vapecritic said, "It hits with the best of them".
I've some Cvault with bodeva pack too and this is just amazing ! There is so much difference between a "normal" weed and a weed who are stored and cured some months with boveda ! The taste is better and I can get some huge clouds with it :)
I agree that proper storage w/ Bovedas is a must for preserving your bud, but vaping it that way isnt as enjoyable. It vapes so much better when the bud is thoroughly dry and broken up. So my system is to put my main stash in mason jars w/ Bovedas, and take a weeks worth of bud out every week to go in a separate container with a silica gel pack to remove all the moisture. This is my 'secret' for getting big-ass clouds effortlessly with the VC and its just a smoother and more satisfying vaping experience. I get no flavor loss doing this either probably because its a short term stash.
 
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Kurtdigglur

Long draws
With most electric vapes the temperature inside the bowl drops when you take a toke - this is why you need to heat soak Solo's etc to get a good hit. However as one of our fellow vapcappers showed about 15-20 pages back the temperature inside the vapcap bowl INCREASES when you take a hit. I don't pretend to understand the science behind it but I think George has found the golden ratios for vaping in terms of bowl size, heat conduction inside the bowl combined with heat transfer via convection and when you add it all together it gives the most complete extraction available which is why I think the vapor is so thick - you are getting all the goodies at once - typically under a minute compared to an electric vape that can stretch a session out to 10 minutes. I find that my Omnivap will still get vapor from bud that has been run through my Solo 2 until it stopped producing vapor!
Got to love George 'The Wizard' Breiwa.
I almost gave up on vaping until I used the M. The electronic ones I'd have to keep at 460 degrees to help my symptoms. With the vapcap my symptoms are gone after second hit. Its revolutionary to the vape scene. It honestly should be recommended as a first especially for heavy smokers. It feels natural to light up and get blown the fuck up.
 

Smokey McVape

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I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I don't think the temp rises, the atmospheric pressure drops, thereby lowering the boiling point of the oils and vapors on the surface of the herb. Remember you don't cool things, you remove the warmth from it. Doc
@Dynalowrider - here is the graph I was talking about -
Shameless crosspost from the Vape Temp Profile Charts Thread.

I just charted a VapCap M being heated by @Pipes Jarhead induction heater.
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I had to use a makeshift screen that I poked a hole into, but I got the sensor right about where I wanted it.

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I then filled it with herb and ran the test. You'll notice that the first draw actually brings more heat into the bowl, while the second takes heat out of it.

I plan on running a similar test with the Ti Omni for comparison's sake. :science:

:peace:
I was just reading up on the Armstrong limit as well and you are right - many liquids and oils have a lower boiling point below a certain pressure. Its really intrresting to learn new stuff.
 
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