The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

Kiliam said:

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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No problem and thanks for sharing you opinion, it does not have to be a positive experience to everyone.
A good friend of mine who uses his volcano every day also needs to cough every time when he is vaping with my Mighty. The bag cools down the air A LOT more than the tiny winy straw of the Mighty. I dont have any problem with that personally. Besides I have a high tolerance, too, but 2 capsules keep getting me high enough, which is about .5 to .6g. If you dont like it I am willing to buy it from you for 200 bucks .

Kiliam said:

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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Transitions from smoking to vaping. Try taking a break from combusting and only vaporize. I have crazy coughing attacks with my mighty too.

Jack_72 said:

Thanks a lot for your reply!
I did the test you mentioned and basically the CU is leakproof but like you said when I wiggle the straw just gently, I can definitely notice a leak from the hole where the straw is put in.

Can you or someone else confirm that this leak is NOT normal even with wiggling?

Thank you very much for your suggestion of writing an email first, too, that's exactly what I am going to do now .

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I had the air leak in one of my two CU's. It became air tight after the resin in the CU got thicker. Now after I clean that CU I had saved some resin to put it around the mouthpiece to make it air tight.

Kiliam said:

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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First time I used the Mighty i filled the bowl with the finest grind and vaped at 180 Celcius. I generated a huge cloud and I was so wasted I could not vape the whole bowl in one go.

Using capsules the fine grind will exit the capsules straight into the CU leaving little to be vaped. Using the fine screens inside the capsules keeps the fine grind inside the capsule. Perhaps that is what you experience using capsules.

Kiliam said:

I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference

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Try not compacting it at all really, nice and loose. And anything that melts should be on a pad, but yeah Volcano is probably better for the pad work.

Kiliam said:

We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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It's funny it's enough to make you cough, but not effects.
Besides what was mentioned about sticking to vape only, I'd advise you to hold it in longer and play with it more on exhale.
Lower temp for less coughing and good taste, raise temp for faster extract or bigger clouds.
Or make sure the first thing you do in that day/evening is vape, then you'll know where any effect is coming from and not be all muddled looking for something from thin air style?

Kiliam said:

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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The transition from combusting to vaping is not easy, especially if you used tobacco. The nicotine gives a more heavy head buzz than plain weed. Vaping gives a more clear-head sensation and in the beginning feels somehow "light" compared to smoking spliffs. You have to give yourself time to clear from nicotine to fully appreciate the effects of vaping, then the experience becomes much more intense.
As for dosing, try filling the chamber without the capsule, put the liquid pad on top.
Also try starting at lower temperatures and gradually increase, to give your throat time to get used to it.

I have an abundance of ABV that has been collected over the course of a few years.

I'm wondering whether it retains its potency, and how best to extract it to cook with?

I know it is already active, but I don't want to just toss it into food as is.

How can I best extract the goodness into oil or butter to cook with at a later date?

And how much can I expect that it will reek when I do?

Thanks!

Kiliam said:

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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The problem you're having is that you associate the heavy head sensation that you get from carbon monoxide (smoke) and the effects of the nicotine in tobacco with the marijuana high - vaporizing will never mimic those sensations because those sensations have nothing to do with marijuana.

I used to feel the same way in the beginning because I switched from big bong hits of marijuana and tobacco to vaporizing, and I thought I had wasted my money on the device.

Slowly but surely I persevered and came to realize that I had been tainting my experience all along by combining it with the effects smoke and tobacco had on my brain.

Yes, the intensity of a high achieved through combustion and combined with tobacco can be greater, but the high is much less satisfying, flavourful and pure as compared with when you just vaporize marijuana by itself.

If you stop smoking and cut out tobacco you will come to realize how much more potent and fulfilling the vaporized high is.

It has nothing to do with the Mighty and everything to do with your brain being accustomed to a certain type of high, that in actuality is not a marijuana high at all, but more so the poison of smoke and nicotine.

hassan said:

I have an abundance of ABV that has been collected over the course of a few years.

I'm wondering whether it retains its potency, and how best to extract it to cook with?

I know it is already active, but I don't want to just toss it into food as is.

How can I best extract the goodness into oil or butter to cook with at a later date?

And how much can I expect that it will reek when I do?

Thanks!

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Have a look here: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/suggestions-for-a-liter-container-of-avb-please.25951/

There is a smell but it's not that strong, or easily recognizable to everyone. YMMV

Kiliam said:

Hi guys.
My mighty arrived 24h ago and I am a bit disappointed.
I wanted to just stop smoking tobacco and weed and just start vaporizing but to be honest, the effects from one capsule are barely noticeable for one person. Even worse for two.
I tried compacting it some more but no avail. Already tried some finger hash in it but not much difference in high, just more time sucking at higher temperature.
I am using it most of the time at 180C and 195c at the end.
We have a high tolerance. And we grow our own.
I also have a volcano classic for about 10 years but only to use in party's mostly or end year. I cough a lot more with the mighty than with a volcano bag. Don't know why. Today morning in the car I almost broke my neck coughing, and still have now my neck sore.
We have the flu now maybe that's some motive.
Sorry for my rant.

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This is the very reason I found this site, I found solutions for coughing on the thread dedicated to that topic and for me, a straw stuck into the mouthpiece gave just enough distance to cool the vapor. I am going to order a silicon tube, but for now it's a straw from in-n -out - perfect size. I will add that I was vaping older weed earlier and had no coughing. Now I am using recently harvested and cured, waaaay more coughing. That was also a solution, dry out the weed a bit more, that makes sense now. Also, the cerebral effects are different but after just two days of exclusively vaping, I am liking it. The advice on the other thread was give it some time, so far, so good for me. Good luck, I hate buyers remorse on such expensive items, hope it works out.

Is it *really* necessary to grind and do all that? I just stuff a nice bud in the chamber and go, am I missing out on something fabulous? Seems so much work and all that sticky left behind is sad. Are grinding accessories necessary or just a style preference? Sorry to those who sell accessories...

lvb said:

Is it *really* necessary to grind and do all that? I just stuff a nice bud in the chamber and go, am I missing out on something fabulous? Seems so much work and all that sticky left behind is sad. Are grinding accessories necessary or just a style preference? Sorry to those who sell accessories...

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If you don't grind it up, you're not optimizing the surface area of the bud and will not achieve complete extraction.

A good (titanium) grinder in conjunction with a Wicca box will result in nothing being left behind and being able to collect all that delicious kief to use for whatever you deem appropriate.

I would always recommend grinding - and using a high quality grinder.

hassan said:

If you don't grind it up, you're not optimizing the surface area of the bud and will not achieve complete extraction.

A good (titanium) grinder in conjunction with a Wicca box will result in nothing being left behind and being able to collect all that delicious kief to use for whatever you deem appropriate.

I would always recommend grinding - and using a high quality grinder.

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ugh, ok, I guess being lazy and cheap is costing me...thanks.

lvb said:

ugh, ok, I guess being lazy and cheap is costing me...thanks.

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i actually prefer not grinding. the taste is alot better not grinded. you loose alot of the oils and terpenes when bud is grounded up. my mighty heats perfect brown when i cover nug with an extra net.

I'm waiting for mine guys today.. How much do I have to charge it when I take it in my hands? Would mighty be considered a better unit from pax and other great portable vaporizers when it comes to saving amount of herb etc? And last thing how long does a normal bowl last you? And what are your vaping temps and process (I mean how many draws you take to each temo)

Hey @Argi, welcome aboard. I can't remember what the hold over on initial charge was, but that thing charges fast. Under an hour, IIRC. The commissioning instructions will walk you through it.

A normal bowl, depending on a pack, will last me at least 1 session of approx 15-20 good pulls. I usually start at about 160 and work my way up to 185 2-3 draws of 5 pulls, then Jack it up to 195 or 205 to kill the bowl has been my go to with the Mighty. Always great even ABV.

Now, Pax and Mighty are two different vapes and hard to compare. One is designed for portability, the other is designed to be Mighty.

I think you will be very, very happy with your purchase. Don't look back

i mean pax has the ability to heat the product when it feels that you are taking a draw. what about mighty will the product get cooked without taking draws? is there a big leak of smoke when u not draw ?

So, it will. But not to the same extent I find. There is the capsule option which I find optimal for sess preservation. Just pop it out on a tough surface (or grab it in your shirt or pop the capsule on your jeans - hot but not burning). This will prevent a lot of residual heat transfer.

I also recommend turning off the vape and taking a draw to introduce cooler air. Also, pop off the cool unit for a moment or two. Just let the heat out. This is how I do it with my Mighty/Crafty, hope it helps. People here are very helpful and if you need more input, just wait

I see thanks a lot.. Forum has been really helpful. Btw I just received it and I'm charging it right now.. In the manual it said it need to be charged before any use but within few minutes the battery display has been full and it doesn't blink. Is it ready although some mind have past while charging?

Argi said:

I see thanks a lot.. Forum has been really helpful. Btw I just received it and I'm charging it right now.. In the manual it said it need to be charged before any use but within few minutes the battery display has been full and it doesn't blink. Is it ready although some mind have past while charging?

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They often arrive with 60-80% charge already, so it does not take long to be ready to go. Some folks like to run it for a few minutes with an empty chamber (a 'burn-off") just to be sure there's no funky residual smell coming out of it (which would be extremely rare). You may detect a very minor taste (like plastic) at first, but this should go away quickly.

I made a little battery test drive with my Mighty.

Temperature , Session time , Capsules
After every session i let Mighty totally cool down. I used capsules with every session and with WPA i used Black Leaf 32,5 cm single honeycomb bong. Every draw was approx. 5-10 sec.
Temperature drop is about 2-4 celcius when i draw.

196 / 10 min. / 2 capsules
191 / 6 min. / 1
191 / 7 min. / 1
195 / 10 min. / 2
210 / 205 / 13min. / 2 / WPA
185 / 191 / 202 (WPA) / 16 min. / 2
200 / 205 / 14 min. / 2 / WPA
180 / 185 / 11min. / 2

After this battery icon starts to blink. So you still have time to take another bowl or two.

Overall time was 88 min.
Vaping time 74 min
Heating time 14 min
8 x heating
Heat up time: 1min 20sec to 195
14 capsules / about .1g - .2g
Battery charging takes from dead to full about 2 1/2 hrs.
I have 4 different vapes. Boundless CFX / CFV , Arizer Solo II and Mighty.
Mighty is clearly the best..no question about that. Super smooth with or without WPA. All of these vapes are good devices. I really like CFX and CFV..Solo II is decent too.

Is there a condensed version of this? Maybe a Wiki? I found out I am getting a Mighty as a present in a couple days. I'd love to get useful info, but I don't have the time to read 461 pages! Thanks

Danballa said:

Is there a condensed version of this? Maybe a Wiki? I found out I am getting a Mighty as a present in a couple days. I'd love to get useful info, but I don't have the time to read 461 pages! Thanks

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The best thing to do is to take out the time and read through the thread.

It'll definitely take a couple of hours, but it'll be worth it for the information you'll get.

Just received the filling set! Quite a lot of dingles in the box. It has the filling set (tray, plunger, spatula), XL herb mill, scale, 48 caps, and magazine. So my initial thoughts are positive. Everything is well constructed of course, nice package.

I like the herb mill XL. It is big thing, but seems easy to turn and has little evolutionary changes that make it a worthy, low cost grinder for anyone. It has a storage area up top, which just makes so much sense.

I did some unboxing pics I'll post up in an edit to show y'all.

Jack_72 said:

No problem and thanks for sharing you opinion, it does not have to be a positive experience to everyone.
A good friend of mine who uses his volcano every day also needs to cough every time when he is vaping with my Mighty. The bag cools down the air A LOT more than the tiny winy straw of the Mighty. I dont have any problem with that personally. Besides I have a high tolerance, too, but 2 capsules keep getting me high enough, which is about .5 to .6g. If you dont like it I am willing to buy it from you for 200 bucks .

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Thanks but, no thanks. I already paid way what i should for this one. About the capsules i think its a little weird to have to vape 2 capsules straight but, with the volcano the quantity is way bigger.

mixchu69 said:

Transitions from smoking to vaping. Try taking a break from combusting and only vaporize. I have crazy coughing attacks with my mighty too.

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I been using 165ºC almost always today and is really easier on the throat.

HushemFlupskluk said:

First time I used the Mighty i filled the bowl with the finest grind and vaped at 180 Celcius. I generated a huge cloud and I was so wasted I could not vape the whole bowl in one go.

Using capsules the fine grind will exit the capsules straight into the CU leaving little to be vaped. Using the fine screens inside the capsules keeps the fine grind inside the capsule. Perhaps that is what you experience using capsules.

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Not me, we tried it at 180ºC because it was the temp in the box image.
What do you mean by your second paragraph? I noticed my CU and even the tranport box for the capsules gets bits of very fine grind, and sometimes when i finish and remove the CU the little net underside the CU gets almost covered by little bits.
Like this:
https://imgur.com/a/T9ZTz

blackstone said:

Try not compacting it at all really, nice and loose. And anything that melts should be on a pad, but yeah Volcano is probably better for the pad work.

It's funny it's enough to make you cough, but not effects.
Besides what was mentioned about sticking to vape only, I'd advise you to hold it in longer and play with it more on exhale.
Lower temp for less coughing and good taste, raise temp for faster extract or bigger clouds.
Or make sure the first thing you do in that day/evening is vape, then you'll know where any effect is coming from and not be all muddled looking for something from thin air style?

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Did today just like you said at lower temps, very nice for flavour and easy on the throat.
I ordered the mighty and a box with capsules for liquids, i only have two with the pads for finger hash from harvest, and the rest ready to use during the day.

curubelo said:

The transition from combusting to vaping is not easy, especially if you used tobacco. The nicotine gives a more heavy head buzz than plain weed. Vaping gives a more clear-head sensation and in the beginning feels somehow "light" compared to smoking spliffs. You have to give yourself time to clear from nicotine to fully appreciate the effects of vaping, then the experience becomes much more intense.
As for dosing, try filling the chamber without the capsule, put the liquid pad on top.
Also try starting at lower temperatures and gradually increase, to give your throat time to get used to it.

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hassan said:

The problem you're having is that you associate the heavy head sensation that you get from carbon monoxide (smoke) and the effects of the nicotine in tobacco with the marijuana high - vaporizing will never mimic those sensations because those sensations have nothing to do with marijuana.

I used to feel the same way in the beginning because I switched from big bong hits of marijuana and tobacco to vaporizing, and I thought I had wasted my money on the device.

Slowly but surely I persevered and came to realize that I had been tainting my experience all along by combining it with the effects smoke and tobacco had on my brain.

Yes, the intensity of a high achieved through combustion and combined with tobacco can be greater, but the high is much less satisfying, flavourful and pure as compared with when you just vaporize marijuana by itself.

If you stop smoking and cut out tobacco you will come to realize how much more potent and fulfilling the vaporized high is.

It has nothing to do with the Mighty and everything to do with your brain being accustomed to a certain type of high, that in actuality is not a marijuana high at all, but more so the poison of smoke and nicotine.

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lvb said:

This is the very reason I found this site, I found solutions for coughing on the thread dedicated to that topic and for me, a straw stuck into the mouthpiece gave just enough distance to cool the vapor. I am going to order a silicon tube, but for now it's a straw from in-n -out - perfect size. I will add that I was vaping older weed earlier and had no coughing. Now I am using recently harvested and cured, waaaay more coughing. That was also a solution, dry out the weed a bit more, that makes sense now. Also, the cerebral effects are different but after just two days of exclusively vaping, I am liking it. The advice on the other thread was give it some time, so far, so good for me. Good luck, I hate buyers remorse on such expensive items, hope it works out.

Is it *really* necessary to grind and do all that? I just stuff a nice bud in the chamber and go, am I missing out on something fabulous? Seems so much work and all that sticky left behind is sad. Are grinding accessories necessary or just a style preference? Sorry to those who sell accessories...

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Just like you say i agree that tobacco is the main culprit here and not the mighty, i have been bashing it but its a great device no matter what.
Our consumption for many years have been the same and has to change. Now we need another vape for her since i am avoiding a cigar with a capsule. And only 3 joints today, very good for us.

Thank you all for your help, and just like "lvb" says this forum has very good vibe.

Guys this device is a monster (I don't even remember how many bowls I tested) and we were passing the mighty through the while crew.. No one could take long draws at high temps and everyone coughed. Battery for many bowls 6+. Very happy with this guys I suggested for everyone plus that it's priced has dropped enough

I want to give my 2 cents regarding the tobacco/joints high vs the vape high. Yeah I think combusting gives indeed the feeling that your high is more intense than when you vape. But I strongly disagree with the fact that smoking a joint with tobacco gives you a more intense high.

Basically what I did was comparing the different kinds of ingesting. The joint with tobacco and weed gives me a very mild high. Very mild. When I got my Bong and I ran my Mighty through it I seriously felt how it was to be high again, in a very long time. All those years I had basically wasted my weed, that is how I felt.

When you hold your breath when you take a big hit, you get almost the exact same high as when you smoke, at least in my experience. I feel that the only thing that the joint gives you is oxygen deprivation, which gives the feeling that you are more high, but after a couple of days of strictly only vaping I can only feel that is just plain rubbish.

I just felt to chip in, vaping honestly completely changed my weed experience. Fuck tobacco, seriously.