Multi-brand X MAX STARRY

simplywonderful

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hoy guys, I used the mighty as my main vape I have been satisfied but it broke just after few months, now Im thinking if it would be worthy to go the same way again, for that much so me have been thinking about getting some Starry v2 or Vivant alternate, any opinions on which to choose and why would be much valued.
Since the mighty broke I have been using fm v5
 
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simplywonderful

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starry because its mouthpeice doenst crack, also design wise it just feels much better, although now theres the xmax fog which is basically the starry but hybrid convection

Do you think the xmax fog is way better than starry? maybe on par with mighty? thank you
 
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His_Highness

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Do you think the xmax fog is way better than starry? maybe on par with mighty? thank you

I'm not 100% sure but I think @stickstones has been testing Xmax Fog so he may have some insight.

There's also the thread here http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/x-max-fog.25533/

For me the Starry (retailer branded or otherwise) isn't what I would consider a daily driver. I do like it for something stealthy when I'm out and about and for a quick couple hits to maintain a buzz because it's pretty fast to temp.
 

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I'm not 100% sure but I think @stickstones has been testing Xmax Fog so he may have some insight.

There's also the thread here http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/x-max-fog.25533/

For me the Starry (retailer branded or otherwise) isn't what I would consider a daily driver. I do like it for something stealthy when I'm out and about and for a quick couple hits to maintain a buzz because it's pretty fast to temp.
what is your daily driver?:) what would you consider a good daily driver?:) if that plastic would be only thicker, carbon ceramic mighty? :D cant imagine the price
 
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His_Highness

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@simplywonderful ... I have multiple daily drivers.

I usually get things started with one of my desktops (convection vapes) and then maintain the buzz with a portable (conduction or hybrid) as I go about my business.

Blastoff Desktop: If I'm flavor chasing, want to take my time and enjoy the session itself....I'll start with the EVO. If I want speed and laser sighted accuracy.... I'll start with the Herbalizer.

Maintaining That High Portables: Love the Starry as a pocket vape for out and about stealth and speed. If I'm chilling on the couch or behind the computer, etc.... I'll typically use the Solo.

It wasn't until you asked that question @simplywonderful that I realized which vapes I use on a daily basis is dependent on how patient I am feeling about getting happy. Another realization is that lately the Starry has been beating out the Solo because I'm busy and on the move more.
 

Jimmyweaese

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hoy guys, I used the mighty as my main vape I have been satisfied but it broke just after few months, now Im thinking if it would be worthy to go the same way again, for that much so me have been thinking about getting some Starry v2 or Vivant alternate, any opinions on which to choose and why would be much valued.
Since the mighty broke I have been using fm v5

I guess my flowermate v5os. Its not a for the price thing. I really think the vape is outstanding. .i just bought a starry,but just started looking for comments on smell thing. Dont really see why it would smell as much as it does after use. But its a nice vape.
I had a couple issues with a one yr old fm. I can say the customer service went way above what it could have been.
 

simplywonderful

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I guess my flowermate v5os. Its not a for the price thing. I really think the vape is outstanding. .i just bought a starry,but just started looking for comments on smell thing. Dont really see why it would smell as much as it does after use. But its a nice vape.
I had a couple issues with a one yr old fm. I can say the customer service went way above what it could have been.
When I received my FMs they for sure smelled like robot farts. I burned them in for 2 charges and it went slowly away, did you burn in your stary (washed the mouthpiece with iso? When I received mighty it smelled similar, after burning in it was away, I even got a new M but Im still hesitant to unpack it since my last M lasted 4 months, but this one seems to be the new improved model.Wondering if they done something to casing.
 

Jimmyweaese

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When I received my FMs they for sure smelled like robot farts. I burned them in for 2 charges and it went slowly away, did you burn in your stary (washed the mouthpiece with iso? When I received mighty it smelled similar, after burning in it was away, I even got a new M but Im still hesitant to unpack it since my last M lasted 4 months, but this one seems to be the new improved model.Wondering if they done something to casing.
I should have said smell escaping after a few puffs. But compared to fm I think temp needs to be turned down a bit. I'd say I get same results with temp a bit lower .But nice small vape. It' a fair price . I love the quickness. I haven' looked everywhere but on starry that middle oval on mouhpiece it pops right out for cleaning. And I thought u had to take that whole gasket top off..I found out by accident made it better.
 

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I have the starry. Like it, I think it is well made. But agree, there are better vapes for home. It fits great in a pocket and the lid stays on. It clogs quicker than most so does require cleaning. it is my steath vape right now since it is so small and thin. Thin is important. I think it is a good buy for the price. Not as efficienta s my CF but easier to have in your pocket and temp control is great. I like the count down time display too. Have to look at the fog too.
 

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I took the middle ceramic filter and surrounding Teflon seat off the Starry completely. I was cleaning that filter too often for my liking. So now I don't have to clean it every other day but the mouthpiece itself is getting reclaim coated much more. I've been using it that way for a few weeks now without doing anything other than brushing out the oven.

If you do take the filter and flexible Teflon seat/seal out you'll have to lower your temps. I used to start at 390 and now I start at 380.
 
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I took the middle ceramic filter and surrounding Teflon seat off the Starry completely. I was cleaning that filter too often for my liking. So now I don't have to clean it every other day but the mouthpiece itself is getting reclaim coated much more. I've been using it that way for a few weeks now without doing anything other than brushing out the oven.

If you do take the filter and flexible Teflon seat/seal out you'll have to lower your temps. I used to start at 390 and now I start at 380.

You must be using a stainless screen on top of the load I assume?? Are you using the screens that came with the Starry (the inside the mouthpiece ones?) I have been running top ceramic screen only, no stainless since the beginning. No complaints except the top ceramic cleaning intervals.
 

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You must be using a stainless screen on top of the load I assume?? Are you using the screens that came with the Starry (the inside the mouthpiece ones?) I have been running top ceramic screen only, no stainless since the beginning. No complaints except the top ceramic cleaning intervals.

Spot on Sloth....I'm placing one of the extra oven screens on top of the oven. Way easier to clean and I'm cleaning it less often.
 
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That is a good idea. I am going to try that. The other small holes do clog fast.

The trick is to push the screen into the oven top ... just a tiny bit ... so it lodges in the oven and won't come up when you hit it. Otherwise it'll get pulled into the mouthpiece. If it comes up it won't hurt anything but you will chew on the herb bits.
 
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Got a Spirit by Storm @VapeFiend.com version today.Neat little vape, only slightly taller and wider than a Pax 3.

Surprised how open/unrestricted the draw is on this device and how cool the vapor is (you don't feel it and it can catch you out!)

Flavour is quite muted to what I expected but then its not a premium device. It doesnt taste popcorny or robot fart like which is decent.

Going to try out the concentrate pad shortly, still testing this vape and getting to grips with correct pack/grind (any suggestions appreciated!)

Oven is quite large for its size, it wont replace my Pax 3 but I bought it as a back up device.
 

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@sNc - I tried the concentrate insert and it worked but it wasn't nearly as good as a device made specifically for concentrates. Be careful with the amount of concentrate used. I put a little too much in and it spilled over a bit. You might want to start with a half BB pellet sized first.

I put the concentrate insert in, heated it to max temp, waited about 30 seconds and then dropped the concentrate in. This allowed me to watch it melt into the insert before I put the mouthpiece on and took that first hit. That's how I knew I put too much in and could tell it was melted and ready.

Good Luck! Would love to hear how you made out.
 
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@sNc - I tried the concentrate insert and it worked but it wasn't nearly as good as a device made specifically for concentrates. Be careful with the amount of concentrate used. I put a little too much in and it spilled over a bit. You might want to start with a half BB pellet sized first.

I put the concentrate insert in, heated it to max temp, waited about 30 seconds and then dropped the concentrate in. This allowed me to watch it melt into the insert before I put the mouthpiece on and took that first hit. That's how I knew I put too much in and could tell it was melted and ready.

Good Luck! Would love to hear how you made out.

No issues with concentrate function for me I meant more on the dry herb front for tips and tricks.
 
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No issues with concentrate function for me I meant more on the dry herb front for tips and tricks.

Here's my personal preferences.....

- Medium grind - Loosely packed to allow unrestricted air flow.
- Start at 390F
- Once it reaches 390F - Hit it if you flavor chase, if you're not chasing flavor let it heat soak for 30 seconds before taking the first hit.
- Allow at least 15 seconds between hits to heat condition each draw.
- I don't stir the bowl but I will lightly tap it between hits.
- When vapor slows I temp step 15F degrees to 405F.
- I finish off the bowl at 425F but it tastes like ass.

Best suggestion I could give you for additional tips/techniques would be reading this thread backwards. Lots of good stuff in the thread beyond my personal choices.
 

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Here's my personal preferences.....

- Medium grind - Loosely packed to allow unrestricted air flow.
- Start at 390F
- Once it reaches 390F - Hit it if you flavor chase, if you're not chasing flavor let it heat soak for 30 seconds before taking the first hit.
- Allow at least 15 seconds between hits to heat condition each draw.
- I don't stir the bowl but I will lightly tap it between hits.
- When vapor slows I temp step 15F degrees to 405F.
- I finish off the bowl at 425F but it tastes like ass.

Best suggestion I could give you for additional tips/techniques would be reading this thread backwards. Lots of good stuff in the thread beyond my personal choices.

Yeah I have read a bit of the thread already just wanted some fresh input.
Im yet to find the right balance of flavour and vapour as I'm mostly a flavour chaser..I've found so far at lower temps neither flavour nor vapour is satisfactory for me...more experimenting with load size and pack required I think.

I find the draw a little to open for my liking and think this may be hindering the flavour and vapour production at lower temps...going to try out what someone else said a few pages back with regards to obstructing some of the air intakes.
 
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Yeah I have read a bit of the thread already just wanted some fresh input.
Im yet to find the right balance of flavour and vapour as I'm mostly a flavour chaser..I've found so far at lower temps neither flavour nor vapour is satisfactory for me...more experimenting with load size and pack required I think.

I find the draw a little to open for my liking and think this may be hindering the flavour and vapour production at lower temps...going to try out what someone else said a few pages back with regards to obstructing some of the air intakes.

The other option is "sipping" or just slowing your draw. During the first few hits does any light vapor drift out of the mouthpiece? I find that once the bowl is heat soaked the first few draws leak a tiny bit of vapor at the tip end. The reason I mention the slight leak...it's how I know I'm at the optimal point.
 
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The other option is "sipping" or just slowing your draw. During the first few hits does any light vapor drift out of the mouthpiece? I find that once the bowl is heat soaked the first few draws leak a tiny bit of vapor at the tip end. The reason I mention the slight leak...it's how I know I'm at the optimal point.
Haven't noticed that (I know what you mean as I get that with the Pax 3) but isnt always easy as Im mostly an outdoor consumer.
 

Jimmyweaese

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Haven't noticed that (I know what you mean as I get that with the Pax 3) but isnt always easy as Im mostly an outdoor consumer.
I do around 380 whole time.dont really jump around to much. Definitely don' go over 400. Because it seems to me that the way it heats up is super efficient and a bit higher then what the ape shows. Plus I'm not ever going to get a high temp that might combust. Not going to happen
 

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unboxing review and session on the spirit by storm
My 28 month old Gen II Summit is falling apart a bit and I am needing to have a back up. The Spirit looks pretty good after watching this review a few times, but I would like to try an IQ or just stay cheap with a Summit Plus.
Vapefiend will currently ship the Spirit to America for $124.
Dazza78 could you try it with .05. I know .3 fills it, but I don't use that much at a time and wonder how the Spirit is at a very small amount. The Summit has been and still is pretty amazing.
Wish it was as tough as Vapium says it is.

We should start another thread for the Spirit.
 
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