The only complaint I have so far is that the vapor of the NO2 escapes easily through the tip. I am new to all this but I really don't like plugging the tip with my thumb throughout a session. Does anybody know where I could possibly buy some one-way whiptips? Thanks and advance and sorry if this is normal escapage and I am just being paranoid.
Discontinued Vapir NO2
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vape4health
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Ok , I vaped one load and have a very short review .
As far as the mechanical part , not talking taste/smell it works better then I was expecting , holds temp good when plugged in and ok on battery and gets to temp fast . I can cool it maybe 15F with a big fast hit on the battery but plugged in it only drops a little and comes back quick . If the taste/smell problem could be fixed I really believe it would make a very nice vape but the taste/smell is a problem for me , its not really the taste itself but I the whole time I cant stop thinking " wounder what that is " and it kinda weirds me out so I cant use it .
Vapir , fix the smell/taste and you would have a home run in my eyes .
Im on a mission to rebuild the heater with non-stinking ( magic ) , Ill be gone for a bit but when I get back I'll have a solution or will be working on it . I'll post any mods and pics .
As far as the mechanical part , not talking taste/smell it works better then I was expecting , holds temp good when plugged in and ok on battery and gets to temp fast . I can cool it maybe 15F with a big fast hit on the battery but plugged in it only drops a little and comes back quick . If the taste/smell problem could be fixed I really believe it would make a very nice vape but the taste/smell is a problem for me , its not really the taste itself but I the whole time I cant stop thinking " wounder what that is " and it kinda weirds me out so I cant use it .
Vapir , fix the smell/taste and you would have a home run in my eyes .
Im on a mission to rebuild the heater with non-stinking ( magic ) , Ill be gone for a bit but when I get back I'll have a solution or will be working on it . I'll post any mods and pics .
Only been smoking about a year, so new to this. I had been using a pipe or one hitter but started coughing a lot and hated the smoke. I researched vaporizers and decided I wanted to try one. I couldn't afford the expensive $700+ ones, plus I wanted something portable because I can't smoke in the house. I looked at the iolite and the vapir no2. I read just about every post I could find on them because I like doing research on products I buy. Because of the butane and the fixed temp on the iolite, I decided to try the vapir. I liked the variable temp, the rechargeable battery. I was fairly pleased with it.
I came across this forum and read every single page - lots of discussion over the smell/taste issue. I can't compare the taste/smell with other vaporizers, but I really taste the herb. Just to compare the taste of using the vape and smoking... after about two weeks of using the vape, I lit my one hitter up. Man - it was gross. I couldn't even finish it. So with that in mind, I'm extremely pleased with my vapir no2.
I have found that I get much more of a high keeping it around 370 and I use it without the rubber tubing. I'm able to get a stronger hit - or at least it feels like it.
The neatest thing is I can use it inside. The smell seems to dissapate very easily.
I came across this forum and read every single page - lots of discussion over the smell/taste issue. I can't compare the taste/smell with other vaporizers, but I really taste the herb. Just to compare the taste of using the vape and smoking... after about two weeks of using the vape, I lit my one hitter up. Man - it was gross. I couldn't even finish it. So with that in mind, I'm extremely pleased with my vapir no2.
I have found that I get much more of a high keeping it around 370 and I use it without the rubber tubing. I'm able to get a stronger hit - or at least it feels like it.
The neatest thing is I can use it inside. The smell seems to dissapate very easily.
Well to add insult to injury, the dealer that I bought the NO2 from now won't take it back. "Been more than 30 days" This thing has never been used with organic material. The dealer recommended this vape over the iolite... 
That's fine. Live and learn. I've learned that I'll never again buy a vape from ebay. I've learned that paying a little more from a reputable dealer is worth it. This is a service industry.
Now I just need to pick a reputable vape dealer.
Somehow this all seems like a fitting end to my NO2 experience.
That's fine. Live and learn. I've learned that I'll never again buy a vape from ebay. I've learned that paying a little more from a reputable dealer is worth it. This is a service industry.
Now I just need to pick a reputable vape dealer.
Somehow this all seems like a fitting end to my NO2 experience.
I've been using my NO2 over the holidays and I gotta say I enjoy it.
The taste in my Vaporstar is better, but not so much that it bothers me. Its very handy on the bus, just have it in your insidepocket and put the tubing to your mouth, completely stealth
The battery is good to, kept my high for the five hour bus ride to my parents on Christmas.
It's quite annoying to haveto warm it up while its empty since I very seldom use an entire bowl, why is that anyway?
On the whole I would give it a 8/10 from my own humble experience, doubtless it would be a lesser score if I had used any of the other highend vapes out there.
The taste in my Vaporstar is better, but not so much that it bothers me. Its very handy on the bus, just have it in your insidepocket and put the tubing to your mouth, completely stealth
The battery is good to, kept my high for the five hour bus ride to my parents on Christmas.
It's quite annoying to haveto warm it up while its empty since I very seldom use an entire bowl, why is that anyway?
On the whole I would give it a 8/10 from my own humble experience, doubtless it would be a lesser score if I had used any of the other highend vapes out there.
I just bought one of these and I can say this thing blows my MFLB and Vapor Tower out of the water. Personally I do not understand at ALL all the vapir bashing in this thread. It heats up VERY quickly when plugged in (~ 1 minute) and heats up in about 2 minutes when on the battery. The temperature control is excellent and always goes back to target temperature after a hit very quickly, all the while producing a thick milky vapor. Also the smell goes away VERY quickly which is nice 
The only bad thing I can think of is that it takes a while for the battery to charge fully, but its never been that huge of a problem. Seriously, I dont get all the hate for the No2! It is only a few bucks more then the MFLB, I got mine for 120 on ebay). Plus the temperature is consistant and controllable, unlike fumbling around with those shitty chinese batteries that come with the MFLB
The only bad thing I can think of is that it takes a while for the battery to charge fully, but its never been that huge of a problem. Seriously, I dont get all the hate for the No2! It is only a few bucks more then the MFLB, I got mine for 120 on ebay). Plus the temperature is consistant and controllable, unlike fumbling around with those shitty chinese batteries that come with the MFLB
lwien
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jonscotch said:......this thing blows my MFLB and Vapor Tower out of the water.
......Also the smell goes away VERY quickly which is nice
........fumbling around with those shitty chinese batteries that come with the MFLB
So let's see.
To recap:
The No2 blows the LB out of the water
The smell goes away quickly
and
the LB comes with shitty batteries.
And.................this is your very first post here.
Um..........uh.............nah, not gonna say it. Don't have to, really. The handwriting is on the proverbial wall, as they say.
What is kind of amusing though, is that every time the No2 thread slips down about 10 spaces in this forum and begins to die, a brand spanking new member comes on board to bump the thread to the top again with a review that states that this vape is the best thing since sliced bread. They never contribute to any other threads, and then............they just disappear only to be replaced by someone brand new.
Gotta say one good thing for Vapir. They sure are tenacious.
If they had any kind of sense, they'd plant someone and develop them over a few months, working their way up to a hundred posts or so before even mentioning the NO2, then slowly begin to talk about how they're considering one, and then drop a positive review.
By the way, I really am starting to get interested in the NO2, and have been considering dropping some cash to decide on this taste/smell issue for myself. It looks like a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally impressive product.
By the way, I really am starting to get interested in the NO2, and have been considering dropping some cash to decide on this taste/smell issue for myself. It looks like a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally impressive product.
max
Out to lunch
If you really think the N02 produces thick vapor it must be the only vape you've used. You mention the LB, but only in incorrectly saying that it comes with shitty batteries, when actually MF supplies the best brand you can buy. I have it on good authority (from someone who's used nearly every brand name vape on the market) that one thing you don't get with the N02 is thick vapor.jonscotch said:
That's interesting, since others say just the opposite.
Pardon us if we're a little skeptical of your rave review. The N02 is certainly an acceptable performer as a portable, but when you claim that two weak points of the vape are either temporary or nonexistent, you don't have much credibility.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
So my friend has an issue with his NO2 after having it for a good period of time. The taste is still an issue, but not as strong as it once was, however once you know what it tastes like it's easy to tell it is still there.
The NO2 is his daily driver, taste don't bother him because... well he has no sense of taste. His issue is that the top cap/lid/mouthpiece no longer stays in his vape. It just keeps popping off now. For me this is a downside... seems like heavy repeated use can cause the mating between the vape and the top piece to slowly become loose. It has gotten to the point where my friend wants a new unit. If he could only taste I bet he would buy a completely different vape
The NO2 is his daily driver, taste don't bother him because... well he has no sense of taste. His issue is that the top cap/lid/mouthpiece no longer stays in his vape. It just keeps popping off now. For me this is a downside... seems like heavy repeated use can cause the mating between the vape and the top piece to slowly become loose. It has gotten to the point where my friend wants a new unit. If he could only taste I bet he would buy a completely different vape
Mine still smells very bad. I thought I'd give it another try (since I'm stuck with it) just heating it up. You can smell it across the room.
I vape for health preservation, so there's just no way I'm actually going to inhale from the NO2. I figure it can't be healthy.
I vape for health preservation, so there's just no way I'm actually going to inhale from the NO2. I figure it can't be healthy.
The vapor is not thick at all, though noticeable thicker with the herb I just got my hands on.
I've only been using hasch in it before. With the thicker vapor I'm a little bit more concerned about the stealth-factor, I'm not sure I would used it on the bus for example.
I lost my charger a couple of days ago and haven't bothered to look for it jet, just been puffing my Vaporstar I think Im gonna look for it today maybe, if I sober up (not so likely).
I've only been using hasch in it before. With the thicker vapor I'm a little bit more concerned about the stealth-factor, I'm not sure I would used it on the bus for example.
I lost my charger a couple of days ago and haven't bothered to look for it jet, just been puffing my Vaporstar
I think Im gonna look for it today maybe, if I sober up (not so likely).
max
Out to lunch
There's no evidence that the plastic gets enough heat to be a health issue. Historically, this company's products have mostly had plastic housings. If you're concerned though, or can't stand the taste/smell, it's best to avoid this brand. The vape market these days has safer (and affordable) models in every category, so vaporists looking for a clean vapor path have good options in the home or portable category.
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I agree. The simple fact that there is some kind of unusual taste in the vapor is proof that something in the air path is reacting and going into your lungs. It could be harmless, but personally that information was enough to make me look elsewhere when I started vaping.
I agree. The simple fact that there is some kind of unusual taste in the vapor is proof that something in the air path is reacting and going into your lungs. It could be harmless, but personally that information was enough to make me look elsewhere when I started vaping.
Alright after reading quite a few pages on this. Since this is the only vape I own. I'll toss in my two copper.
Lets see what I have to offer. As far as taste goes, my unit doesn't really have that plastic taste to it. I do abuse my unit and have run a few ounces thru it... one thing I haven't seen mentioned is dipping the plastic pieces into hot water before use. I've noticed that with new units and people being very excited to try it, this step is often missed. Other than that I haven't noticed a significant taste issue. (I'll leave it at that, as they are MY taste buds.)
As to the thickness of the vapor. Really I think that depends on how much you pack into the no2 as well as the temp you set it at. Not to mention the rate of inhalation. With that being said. I find after waiting a few seconds with fairly large bowl with the temp set at 390 you get very thick vapor for the most part.
Given it's design. As a portable it's awesome. I do want to get a MFLB since it looks like a better one hitter kind of design, and looking at some other units for home usage. With all that being said, I still like it more than the iolite or any other portable I've tried thus far.
If anyone has found a one way hose I'd love to hear where to grab one.
On another note. I've attached this thing to a water pipe and it makes for some great taste/effect. I even got all my combustible friends hitting it!
Anyone got any other tips/tricks on getting the most out of your no2?
Lets see what I have to offer. As far as taste goes, my unit doesn't really have that plastic taste to it. I do abuse my unit and have run a few ounces thru it... one thing I haven't seen mentioned is dipping the plastic pieces into hot water before use. I've noticed that with new units and people being very excited to try it, this step is often missed. Other than that I haven't noticed a significant taste issue. (I'll leave it at that, as they are MY taste buds.)
As to the thickness of the vapor. Really I think that depends on how much you pack into the no2 as well as the temp you set it at. Not to mention the rate of inhalation. With that being said. I find after waiting a few seconds with fairly large bowl with the temp set at 390 you get very thick vapor for the most part.
Given it's design. As a portable it's awesome. I do want to get a MFLB since it looks like a better one hitter kind of design, and looking at some other units for home usage. With all that being said, I still like it more than the iolite or any other portable I've tried thus far.
If anyone has found a one way hose I'd love to hear where to grab one.
On another note. I've attached this thing to a water pipe and it makes for some great taste/effect. I even got all my combustible friends hitting it!
Anyone got any other tips/tricks on getting the most out of your no2?
lwien said:Einsteins definition of insanity comes to mind here.
Yes you keep doing the same thing over and over again? What do you have to contribute to this? Nothing new?
Actually I've done something different. I've made a suggestion as to why people may be getting a plasticy taste on a BRAND NEW machine. As I've noticed it no one has mentioned this step. Everyone cycles their machine but no one mentions this. (Rinsing the tip and hose in hot water) I hope it helps, but maybe that's not appreciated around here.
PS. If all it takes is being a jackass over and over again to reach over 100 posts... I should be reaching your post count rather soon. Then you'll trust me right?
DaveWaves
Vapor Noob
nr-cole said:
Same here. I read too many reviews that referred to the taste/smell issue. And pieces not fitting after awhile due to fatigue. And alot of other negative stuff. I have read almost no negative feedback about the MFLB, and there has been no funny smell with the LB from trench one. As has been stated here before, if you are tasting it, you're also probably breathing it. Reminds me of when I used a plastic soda bottle and plastic tubing to make my own bubbler, talk about a funny taste!
I also didn't like the fact that the NO2 is made in China...the country that has figured out the quickest way to world domination is through poisoning the consumers of your cheaply-made products! If they are putting lead paint on children's toys, just think how many other ways they have found to put profit over safety. After all, it's not like we're their friends or anything.
While I'm sure every vape has it's pluses and minuses, I look at the averages, and see certain vapes consistently coming out on top: MFLB, PD, EQV, SSV, etc. I decided to stick with a winner, and now own an MFLB and PD-clone, two purchases I have been very happy with.
And neither has a funny plastic taste.
lwien
Well-Known Member
Adaox said:PS. If all it takes is being a jackass over and over again to reach over 100 posts... I should be reaching your post count rather soon. Then you'll trust me right?
I'm really only a part-time jackass.
But in all seriousness, if Vapir would just quit sending in their proxies but rather send in one of their factory reps, have him/her identify themselves as such and address the on-going issues with this vape, then all this silliness can go away, that is, IF they come in here with a real desire to improve their product rather than deny that any of these issues exist.
DaveWaves
Vapor Noob
lwien said:Adaox said:PS. If all it takes is being a jackass over and over again to reach over 100 posts... I should be reaching your post count rather soon. Then you'll trust me right?
I'm really only a part-time jackass.
But in all seriousness, if Vapir would just quit sending in their proxies but rather send in one of their factory reps, have him/her identify themselves as such and address the on-going issues with this vape, then all this silliness can go away, that is, IF they come in here with a real desire to improve their product rather than deny that any of these issues exist.
Funny, but I have had the opposite experience with lwein in the week that I have been a forum member. He was one of the first to post to my first post, and did so in a welcoming and friendly manner.
I think when you spend time on a forum you get a sense for when people are shilling, and some of these Vapir posts seem to be just that. While some may be honest personal accounts from actual users, I don't blame anyone for being skeptical when a first-time, newly registered poster comes on and makes statements that are contrary to the vast majority of feedback about a certain product.
I'm sure if we stick around for awhile and let the other members get to know us, the skepticism will fade.
frogbmth
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Well I have to defend China. They will manufacture dangerous junk but they will also manufacture high quality world class products. You tell them what you want, what materials, what price point and they do it. It is unfair to say that something being made in China is suspect. It is also short sighted to think that something made in the USA , Europe or Australia is great quality or materials just because it is made there.
BUT
Bad smells mean trouble, it means there is either residue from the manufacturing process or something is not chemically stable in the unit. Either way, count me out. It is reasonable to think that bad smells mean there may be safety issues. There is no excuse making something for inhalation what has a funny smell. It should be clean and stay clean.
I have never owned a Vapir device and likely never will if they continue to produce products with unexplained smells. My money goes to something that rings less alarm bells.
BUT
Bad smells mean trouble, it means there is either residue from the manufacturing process or something is not chemically stable in the unit. Either way, count me out. It is reasonable to think that bad smells mean there may be safety issues. There is no excuse making something for inhalation what has a funny smell. It should be clean and stay clean.
I have never owned a Vapir device and likely never will if they continue to produce products with unexplained smells. My money goes to something that rings less alarm bells.
DaveWaves said:lwien said:Adaox said:PS. If all it takes is being a jackass over and over again to reach over 100 posts... I should be reaching your post count rather soon. Then you'll trust me right?
I'm really only a part-time jackass.
But in all seriousness, if Vapir would just quit sending in their proxies but rather send in one of their factory reps, have him/her identify themselves as such and address the on-going issues with this vape, then all this silliness can go away, that is, IF they come in here with a real desire to improve their product rather than deny that any of these issues exist.
Funny, but I have had the opposite experience with lwein in the week that I have been a forum member. He was one of the first to post to my first post, and did so in a welcoming and friendly manner.
I think when you spend time on a forum you get a sense for when people are shilling, and some of these Vapir posts seem to be just that. While some may be honest personal accounts from actual users, I don't blame anyone for being skeptical when a first-time, newly registered poster comes on and makes statements that are contrary to the vast majority of feedback about a certain product.
I'm sure if we stick around for awhile and let the other members get to know us, the skepticism will fade.
Sure sure. I was just making a point. His has been made... over and over again. While you could stand to argue, that my points have also been made before. Sad part is that they are largely dismissed.
THE ONLY PLASTIC TASTE I'VE EVER encountered while using a no2 is when the hose/tip aren't cleaned upon arriving. This is after helping friends with theirs. (I was the first to get it, and all my friends seemed to like it well enough to buy themselves after trying.)
I'd love to have a vapir rep come in and make an official statement but that hasn't happened yet.
Oh one annoying thing about the no2 is you have to leave the unit on to charge. :/ that's a design flaw I have yet to see mentioned or addressed... but it is rather a let down.
Still this is my preferred portable vape for the time being.
With all that being said, I'm curious how many of these come with the smell issue and how much of this is being scrutinized due to it's being brought up so many times here. I can guarantee that most people don't go sniffing their new vapes for a "smell" other than this one. I furthermore speculate that most people don't read instructions all the way and don't remove any residual nonsense off the hose/tip before use and that adds to the plastic taste complaint. I'd really love for someone else to hit my no2 and tell me there is a taste... because there isn't.
The no2 isn't the best vape on the market. It is, for my money, one of the best portable options.
(With that being said I've only tried 3 of the 4 leading contenders. The VG, iolite, and the no2. The MFLB is on my list of things to try, and should be getting one within the next week or two.)
I'm here to learn and contribute as best I can, but if you don't like a vape then post your two copper and be done with it.
I'm more interested in what this unit CAN do. Oh and the main reason I like the no2 speaking of what it can do... it actually vapes my meds down to a nice brown for the most part. I abuse the thing, like I said. I'm a heavy hitter so it does make the most efficient use of my meds out of the models I've used.
lwien
Well-Known Member
DaveWaves said:I'm sure if we stick around for awhile and let the other members get to know us, the skepticism will fade.
You don't even need to stick around for awhile, Dave. As an example, I never had any skepticism about you, even from your very first post and that was about a knock-off of my most favorite vape.
The skepticism comes from HOW someone presents themselves when they first join up. When things are taken into context, the purpose of some of these brand new members become self-evident. With you, and many others, however, that is not the case and the skepticism is more the exception rather than the rule.