Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

Danksta said:

We need a 30mm (barrel coil not flat) Showerhead. Plain and simple. It just makes sense.

A larger bowl with the current SH will just be a bigger bowl for the sake of being a big bowl. You will lose some flavor as the bowl goes. A 30mm would have bigger coverage and a party bowl could be wider and not just deeper (if that is the goal).

We would get terpier hits too guys.

@NewVape710 build it and I will gladly buy that. I don't see it as an upgrade ;-), just a larger size I want. Kinda like owning both Ligers. They both serve me purpose.

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While I definitely agree and would definitely buy one as well. I also think the party bowl should be what it has been shown thus far and well as a bigger one for a potential new SHFP. The ability to use different screen locations or multiple filters really gives all the options to customize the experience ourselves.


Do you have your thoughts about the two ligers you have anyone on the forum? I'd like to see your comparison if you have one. I'd still like to get a liger and initially was until I saw the wrap around SiC option and would rather wait for the the v4.0 of the liger (or whatever the next iteration is) which will have the locking nut issue fixed.

It's my understanding, and pretty sure I read it on here, that the D-nail sapphire can be used on the D-nail wrap around. I'm fairly tempted to go that route but the obsidian tech is something I'd love to try.



Does anyone have both the NV WrapAround and NV Dnail WrapAround and a comparison? A quick search and all of the pages I've read through so far didn't mention it afaik. I'm interested in the performance difference since the dish is thicker with d-nail but with the NV standard the titanium is thicker which I would assume would hold more heat allowing everything to stay at temperature longer and due to the great thermal properties of SiC it being thinner is moot due to the wrap around.


Looks like with little less stress in my life over just the past two days. I'm starting to remember all the questions I've been wanting to ask! haha

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@buddingglasshead,
I have the standard OG, the "Wraparound", and "D-Nail Wraparound" heads.
The only difference I am aware of is the diameter of dish that can be accommodated is a touch larger with the D-Nail wraparound head. I bought my D-Nail Wraparound head for an eventual D-Nail Sapphire Halo purchase which has not yet happened... so I cannot comment on performance differences between the two yet unfortunately.

steama said:

What the Shower Head taught me today.

I learned whole nugs are the most tasty. I am shocked at how volatile the terps inside the trichome glands are and how rapidly the flavors evaporate. I have noticed that a fine grind destroys a great deal of flavors almost instantly. To preserve flavor I have been scissor cutting nugs and once again I learned how volatile and delicate the trichomes are. As you cut a nug down the more you cut and the finer you make it will be a progressive loss of flavor with the fineness of the cut/grind. I had no idea how dramatic the loss of flavor is, but now I know better.

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I can confirm this. Ive been tossing whole nugs in there for a while. Ill break off what i want to vape and just drop it in the bowl. One good draw and its all crispy and brown. Ive tried everything from fine grind up to nugs and I think the less grinding the better. Ive been digging the Chewy for filling the FP bowl when I do decide to grind it.

@buddingglasshead good point. I guess we need two different party bowls.

Check the Liger thread. It's a hard to answer to give, they are both great for different reasons.

whole nugs FTW

Chicken #420 said:

@buddingglasshead,
I have the standard OG, the "Wraparound", and "D-Nail Wraparound" heads.
The only difference I am aware of is the diameter of dish that can be accommodated is a touch larger with the D-Nail wraparound head. I bought my D-Nail Wraparound head for an eventual D-Nail Sapphire Halo purchase which has not yet happened... so I cannot comment on performance differences between the two yet unfortunately.

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Really appreciate the feedback. Hopefully that changes soon and you can get to testing. I bet you're dying to! I'm sure the flavor won't be any comparison, but really interested in the heat retention in comparison and how long it actually takes to fully vaporize. At the moment, I prefer the whole experience with quartz and glass over an enail for just concentrates. Also made a killer set up that allows me to never waste. The ritual of it is something I enjoy as well. Granted I haven't had concentrates much since I purchased the SH. What little I have used was as

Danksta said:

@buddingglasshead good point. I guess we need two different party bowls.

Check the Liger thread. It's a hard to answer to give, they are both great for different reasons.

whole nugs FTW

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It takes three to make a party. LET'S GO EVEN BIGGER


Definitely will do. Been meaning to make it over there. Thanks!

Well damn. I feel dumb for just now trying out whole nugs.

It's really nice. I just toss a bud in there at 630, rip, flip (the nug), rip, poke to break up, rip (repeat last 2 steps until finished)

Great flavor and vapor production is still there after breaking it down. I wish I had a microscope or macro lens to take a look at what was going on...

muunch said:

Great flavor and vapor production is still there after breaking it down. I wish I had a microscope or macro lens to take a look at what was going on...

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I got you, on my next session I'll get a pic of a fresh nug then what it looks like after 1 hit. It should show exactly what @invertedisdead said earlier with the trichome head vaporized with just stalks left.

#nugvaping, and #convectiondabs that's the real innovation here in this feed.

This feed sure moves fast and I hope it never slows down.

The new bowl only has one grove.
Our alpha sales rollout of the adjusta-bowl will consist of 10 sets being sold. The alpha customers will be able to return their parts for a full refund at newvape's expense if there not completely happy. We are hoping that the alpha customers can help us identify any hidden issues with the current design. The alpha customers will be provided any updates that happen during the initial rollout of version 1.0 @Chicken #420 's done a wonderful honest job of picking it apart and aided in progressing this process to the alpha rollout. His suggestions along with the other 9 alpha customers will be the panel used to ink the initial 1.0 revision. Our goal is to have this complete within the next 10 days so we may begin machining the next larger lot for the holidays. The previous TI showercap upgrade roll out was a disaster. I believe we made more people unhappy than happy with the way that was handled. Being inspired by Vapefiend's video I'm going to try and get over my camera shyness this weekend. If you see a 51 year old, fat, gray haired, hippie looking fellow explaining how to install the adjusta-bowl on you tube it will most likely be me. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

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Right on @NewVape710 I think your method of rolling out new equipment with the alpha program is going to be extremely helpful for all involved! I'd also like to sing your praises for being so open to our needs here on FC. I've mentioned this to others before, but I feel like we are very spoiled here in a way, there are lots of people who don't even know about FC and to have a manufacturer be as engaged with the customer as NV has been is really a treat. You have the tools and expertise to build the spear, and FC is the stone that sharpens it I think!

muunch said:

Well damn. I feel dumb for just now trying out whole nugs.

It's really nice. I just toss a bud in there at 630, rip, flip (the nug), rip, poke to break up, rip (repeat last 2 steps until finished)

Great flavor and vapor production is still there after breaking it down. I wish I had a microscope or macro lens to take a look at what was going on...

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This is before/after 4 rips at 550 with the SH (if the image appears?)
Still quite a few trics visible after. Its interesting that magnified the only difference you see is less trics, the colour change is not so prominent at this magnification.

I personally like the way newvape does things. It almost secretly gets you in the mindset of inventing, finding solutions from what you know how things work... and thinking of multiple designs for the designated function.

It seems to have top notch quality with the experience of dealing with a glass blower for a custom piece. Eventually things will calm down and every piece will be ready for mass production. I think thats the goal but im not sure...

Its rare to actually deal with a manufacturer and them actually consider altercations to their own design in a fast paced manner. This kind of product development will only result in a better end product and not withhold any changes for future renditions after a build up of inventory is depeleted.

For the blow back people are mentioning... i was thinking of some sort of secondary carb hole by twisting the bowl, opening a path for less heated air and bypassing the showerhead to an extent, depending on the draw speed. Might also aid in keeping the joint connection cooler... depends on how its designed i guess.

DrRishi said:

This is before/after 4 rips at 550 with the SH (if the image appears?)
Still quite a few trics visible after. Its interesting that magnified the only difference you see is less trics, the colour change is not so prominent at this magnification.

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Is that 550F capped or uncapped with showerhead?

Shooby said:

Is that 550F capped or uncapped with showerhead?

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That's capped with the Showerhead.

Awesome pics, thanks @DrRishi

some intact resin heads there in the second photo, but interesting that it's exactly as @invertedisdead described. just a field of trichs standing at attention with no heads lol

Alright, here's an idea. Sorry its a new bowl idea but could be interesting. What if a bowl had the ability to rotisserie a load with a screen cage loaded with herbs. The handle is basically doubles as a rotisserie cage inside the FP. It would not accommodate a lot of herb but we wouldn't necessarily want that for this purpose. Something akin to swirling a carb cap for a dab. A way to quickly vaporize up all the goodies without it concentrating on one spot.

Im still using the OG FP and i dont care that hes creating new products. Its not like the older products are unusable. Im not buying anything anytime soon though until i feel like i can settle on a design i like. I feel like the shower head needs dishes for me to be content if not ill just end up getting a SH and a Liger and call it a day.

Another idea is to brand a heating plate with holes on something similar to a health stone. Almost dabbing upside down as convection after a instant conduction. The porous material will create the switch from conduction to convection. Depending on temp the essential oils should try and scatter away. It'd be best if theres some sort of heat retainment along the sides and a cone shape pointed down to centralize everything. Hopefully the destined temp would flow thru the center... maybe a collection cup at the apex.

Since people are loving the degradation of temps and how compounds moves and try and escape to their some what flash point. Tricky because you almost want to apply heat from the bottom, maybe a twist lock with a mass and retainment and exchange.

Pictures pictures pictures. I get that a lot.

While flowers are perishable, a health stone would collect any buildup... i guess you can figure out the rest. Herb cools down so fast... i wonder what pulsing would do.

Since newvape has a in house glass blower now... no one has ever incorporated a water cooled glass joint with... a recycling of water activity. Liquid cooled. Almost all the perculation happens closer rather than further... short path is generally accepted as better.

Maybe it'd be more like steam?

Weirdly enough this plant is more catered to a equilateral climate... yet we're so instant to...

I used to say water is a good carrier... and it varies with temperatures.

Gratification.

I personally think theres less of a medical value when you want to convert in a moment, and rather in a series.

Its getting dark out, but its interesting to play with this specific thread.

I got a new rig today, very interesting how different the experience is in this vs my recycler. Overall I think the recycler was hitting harder, its a chugger whereas this is almost like there is no water at all. This thing is so smooth, no tickles. Still loving those dablets on top of a flower bed, freaking tasty!

@psychonaut,
That is a great piece, it's the first sidecar water pipe I ever bought!
I bought mine from a Washington headshop though... I hadn't discovered DHGate yet!

Hey TAG SIC users! When do you guys replace your dishes?

Will the new adjustable bowls fit into the caddy?

Grifo said:

Hey TAG SIC users! When do you guys replace your dishes?

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I don't know why I would. It is so easy to clean. I have to admit that since I have the ShowerHead I have not used it anymore. The occasional dab I still do goes straight on the SH. I am thinking about getting a few more parts so I can have both on standby but it would really be overkill. I am afraid I have a weakness for the stuff NewVape produce, as an engineer I just love the way its all made.

Wifey tried to have me committed the other day. Again. Here's the dr's notes from my discharge:

Clinical observation: 3 months ago, Patient had no awareness of NewVape and their products yet now finds all daydreams revolve around possessing and using them. Whilst describing these fantasies, Patient uses words like"touch","hold", and the even more revealing "caressing". Patient is exhibiting an unhealthy obsession known commonly as NewVape Acquisition Syndrome (NVAS), unlike normal VAS, it does not subside upon getting the basic kit as there is an ever-growing range of NewVape innovations to personalise and customise your experience. These upgrades are often found to be worthwhile, a continuing source of aggravation to the non-vaping life partner. Have informed Patient the condition is inoperable, aggressive and will likely worsen until he just gets the damn thing one way or another.

Quick wonder about the abv generated using flower on the Shower Head? Don'tcha just chuck it? I can't imagine there could be much goodies left the way the SH extracts. Basing that purely on video watching and pics of abv. Just doesn't seem worth keeping, the herb looks utterly destroyed. Am I wrong? What do you NV faithful do with your duff?

Then yous guys are talking of hearing the pollen heads popping and herb singing while you're hitting it. GTFOH!! That's insanity! I need that experience in my life! Geez, you guys are good salespeople! I'm hoping 2018 is the year I learn the secret NV handshake and take advantage of the good info here. You guys really do help new users have confidence & greater success more quickly. Always there with your experience to help. Sure hope this thread can retain its wonderful vibe of gentle respect, fucking funny insights and for me, the best part: I love the scientific findings here. So many people, so much smarter than me... * sigh *

Can you believe my wife wouldn't believe that this would be the last home vape I would ever want or need? She'd laugh in my face. The superior materials, precision machining, a unit that can change with you over time, drastically reducing the overall cost of ownership? None of that means anything to her. I won't lie, sometimes it hurts. Over 20 yrs and this is how she treats me?! I'll get there, 2018 is the year!

DrRishi said:

I don't know why I would. It is so easy to clean. I have to admit that since I have the ShowerHead I have not used it anymore. The occasional dab I still do goes straight on the SH. I am thinking about getting a few more parts so I can have both on standby but it would really be overkill. I am afraid I have a weakness for the stuff NewVape produce, as an engineer I just love the way its all made.

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Im not a fan of dabbing off of TI, I ended up switching my dish last night and i judging by the sizzle and huge cloud i got it was definitely time.