That is the way he's holding it. If I hold mine that way, I can't reach 12. 0% is at 1, and 100% is at 9.
Discontinued Zion vaporizer
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That is the way he's holding it. If I hold mine that way, I can't reach 12. 0% is at 1, and 100% is at 9.
Farkas
Do you know about the bird?
I use left my index finger to press the button, so 0% is 6 o'clock for me. Dial goes to about 2 o'clock when holding it that way. I like my thumb to be securing one side of the device and three other fingers holding the opposite side when in use. So I guess powerwise I'm using it at around 75% of max capacity that way.
HD Springer
Well-Known Member
75% is about where I like to be. Maybe 80%. Gives you the best of both worlds I believe.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
It is funny how many different ways there are to look at the same thing. During the beta run I don't think Ryan was completely consistent on the orientation of the heater so I just started with the knob all the way off and called that 6:00 on the clock dial and put a dot there. Than I put a dot at 180 degrees from that and called that 12:00. Fully on is then between 2:00 and maybe 2:30. My normal set and leave setting is between 11:00 and 11:30. I rarely change it unless I want to temp step for some reason or get flavor hits.
I think clock position is easier to understand than percentage as no calculations need to be made, and everyone knows the clock dial.
I think clock position is easier to understand than percentage as no calculations need to be made, and everyone knows the clock dial.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
But the starting points were inconsistent at first. You could have one Zion 6:00 position be an angle a second Zion knob could not reach... and alternatively the max of the second would not be reachable by the first etc...
Also for me clock face makes sense when you have 360 degrees. Here we got around 245 degrees of freedom only. Anyway we are nit picking aren't we?
Also for me clock face makes sense when you have 360 degrees. Here we got around 245 degrees of freedom only. Anyway we are nit picking aren't we?
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I agree, Kero, thats why I said this...
And yes, we are picking nits. Fortunately I got good at that working with children in very poor neighborhoods.
So, if fully off is 6:00, everyone is looking at the same clock.
And yes, we are picking nits. Fortunately I got good at that working with children in very poor neighborhoods.
AJS
Calm Consistency
But ... I'm stubborn and don't want to change my perspective of the clock
. But I agree. Percentages are universal but not perfectly accurate or simple here. Clocks take no thought but are subjectively perceived in this matter :/Anyway .. I start on about 40% when temp stepping and finish on about 65%.
If I'm trying to do quick water sesh between games or something I'm normally right to 65-70% for some quick 2 rip bowl killers.
grokit
well-worn member
My dial goes from 8pm to 4am, with noon as the mid point. That's looking at it perpendicularly, over the top of the heater/stem stash section. Petty normal, until you get to the part where my dial is always at 4pm.
I like the way it vapes @4pm, but want some versatility with the dial or it's useless. Compared to the norm it seems inefficient, as it also seem to take longer to heat up than it should; so back for evaluation it goes.
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I like the way it vapes @4pm, but want some versatility with the dial or it's useless. Compared to the norm it seems inefficient, as it also seem to take longer to heat up than it should; so back for evaluation it goes.
Vapenvy
Indie vaper
Yeah, i found it seemed to take longer than the Milaana too, but i think that makes sense, since Milaana is 'full on' as soon as you hit the trigger, whereas Zion seems to build heat (and build and build and...). This is offset, though, by being able to hit the trigger early on Zion to let the heat start building without fear of combustion (sometimes before i have even exhaled the previous hit).
With the power knob, rather than thinking of percentage or clock orientation, I found pointing the dial at the stem was around perfect setting for me. I can adjust up or down depending on mood, but found anywhere in this area as ideal and easy to remember.
I also find that the shape of the Zion leads me to use my left hand as the most comfortable way to hold. This is the only Vape i do this for, but surprisingly, I like it. Plus It frees up my dominant hand allowing me to do other things with my right hand while vaping (and that's not an invitation for the out-of-context thread...)
With the power knob, rather than thinking of percentage or clock orientation, I found pointing the dial at the stem was around perfect setting for me. I can adjust up or down depending on mood, but found anywhere in this area as ideal and easy to remember.
I also find that the shape of the Zion leads me to use my left hand as the most comfortable way to hold. This is the only Vape i do this for, but surprisingly, I like it. Plus It frees up my dominant hand allowing me to do other things with my right hand while vaping (and that's not an invitation for the out-of-context thread...)
virtualpurple
Well-Known Member
I have a hard time determining if I'm getting an adequate number of stems per charge. Last night I temp stepped for a bit and after 1 bowl my batteries were down enough to put the batteries at under 1/3. I think anyways, none of my chargers have a digital readout.
I thought I was getting more efficiency with the Zion when I first bought it. Maybe it's all in my head, but even with these newer batteries I'm not getting what I would expect.
I thought I was getting more efficiency with the Zion when I first bought it. Maybe it's all in my head, but even with these newer batteries I'm not getting what I would expect.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
But what do you expect exactly?
As soon as I got a Milaana to compare, I stated clearly here that given my usage pattern, I was not getting twice the battery life with the Zion.
Longer sessions not at full throttle mean a slower extraction and more battery drain. Plus even if it's very efficient some energy is wasted in the DC/DC conversion stage.
As soon as I got a Milaana to compare, I stated clearly here that given my usage pattern, I was not getting twice the battery life with the Zion.
Longer sessions not at full throttle mean a slower extraction and more battery drain. Plus even if it's very efficient some energy is wasted in the DC/DC conversion stage.
AJS
Calm Consistency
Hey guys, made a *little* cloud video microdosing in the Zion .. hope you enjoy!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ2Wv7FA67K/?taken-by=ajs_fc_
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ2Wv7FA67K/?taken-by=ajs_fc_
P.A.M.
Vapo Rising
Really nice ! Happy you like it! having followed thread, you've been more then patient for yours. judging by your videos and more so this microdosing vid, the end result is there ! Good to see you and hear you man, thank you for sharing.
Now have a piece of cake !! (If it is cake on the counter behind you lol ) it's well deserved.
AJS
Calm Consistency
Thanks man, really appreciate it. It's just a hell of a vaporizer, really is.
Also ... it's crackers on one of those cake platters hahahah. Thanks again man.
squidmark
Well-Known Member
Good to know. Thanks!
I must admit, I view this as a significant design flaw/oversight. Everything about this device screams portable. Not necessarily put it in your pocket portable, but throw in your bag portable. I've got everything I need in once nice container, stem, stirring stick and herb, except I need to put it in a case or take out the batteries to make sure it doesn't overheat in my bag.
Don't get me wrong, the Zion is an otherwise outstanding vape. Unfortunate when you make something this awesome the flaws tend to stand out more.
Out of curiosity, do you know why Ryan decided not to allow you to turn it off without taking out the batteries?
It does have reverse polarity protection so switching one (doesnt need to be both @KeroZen ? As you seem to be our resident battery guru) around will stop it from heating. I know this is not as quick as an off switch but at least its all still self contained.
