Discontinued Ghost MV1

darbarikanada

Well-Known Member
I'm seeing some common themes as people report on their experiences with the MV1:

- bigger 'bang' per hit
- smaller # of hits per bowl, even factoring in the size of the crucible

I'm a bit puzzled by the last one, since vape critic's reviews seem to indicate more hits per load than people are reporting here. is anyone keeping track of how many hits they're getting per gram? if it's true that the # is indeed smaller, that would explain the potency thing; it would suggest that the MV1 vapes the material faster, more like a vapcap - or even a bong hit.

(my preferred vape is a mighty, which yields about 1 hit per .01g. it varies a little from strain to strain, but not by much.)
 

Custom Flower Hardware

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
What is it your not getting until the 3rd draw? Taste? Decent Vapor? Try drawing fairly slow
I'm seeing some common themes as people report on their experiences with the MV1:

- bigger 'bang' per hit
- smaller # of hits per bowl, even factoring in the size of the crucible

I'm a bit puzzled by the last one, since vape critic's reviews seem to indicate more hits per load than people are reporting here. is anyone keeping track of how many hits they're getting per gram? if it's true that the # is indeed smaller, that would explain the potency thing; it would suggest that the MV1 vapes the material faster, more like a vapcap - or even a bong hit.

(my preferred vape is a mighty, which yields about 1 hit per .01g. it varies a little from strain to strain, but not by much.)
You can get as many hits out of the .1 or what the cruicible holds as you tailor. I get full extraction in 3 hits on red level 1 with flower. On amber level 3 I get 4. I'll admit I'm a horker:D. So others that maybe like less heat, amber level 1 chime in? I'll give it a whirl in a minute:tup:
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5 hits on amber level 1 till barely any vapor then red level 1. 3 more hits till this. .2 g
 
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LabPong

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With my excellent flowers......I would usually make a 0.1g load and use amber level 1.....6 draws with good vapor amounts....plenty actually. At that point....I would be 4x more medicated than 12 draws from my Air through water.

The heat and air extract at high levels with the MV1...and with minor issues of use difference going on now...things seem every which way with results.

I normally did 4-6 draws on amber 1 and then maybe a couple on level 2. I could go hotter and faster and cook the load quick if I wanted....but I go for max taste and finish up heavy at the end if needed. Also as I have stated I think my unit is running hotter than it should be. I am waiting patiently for the app to be released so I can reset the device and make sure I am running at temps I desire.

Notice how you get very different opinions and experiences with the vapor amount and # of draws....but there is an over riding theme of......"I'm totally baked though".

Keep that in mind as you read reviews and opinions from users now. There will be a few tweaks to fix the minor things and they will become non-talked about soon enough. Other aspects with problems some have....might be personal choice or needs as to why they accept it or not.
 
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jezmund

Well-Known Member
How’s performance if you pack less than a full chamber - say .05g?

Anyone tried some kind of spacer for that?
 
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WhyAreWeWaiting

Well-Known Member
I bought one of the final production units without Ghost knowing, the same one you guys are getting now, I got it Friday night. I won't post my packing list here but I took pics of it if you want to see it.

Two things are different with this latest one versus the units in my review videos, and they both have to do with tolerances being tightened up slightly too much.

1) The mouthpiece stem rubbing/scratching the ceramic - This is a new issue I didn't experience with my review units, and as soon Ghost got complaints about it they immediately told everybody new stems are being produced and will be sent to anyone affected for free. They were able to solve the problem by slightly recuding the diameter of the lip at the bottom of the glass stem, it's a hair too wide on the some them causing it to rub. The only part that will need to be replaced is the mouthpiece stem, no modifications or changes to the vape are necessary. If you are affected by the rubbing mouthpiece issue contact Ghost and let them know and they will put you on the list to be taken care of.

2) My door latch button is tighter - The door latch is definitely a little tighter on this latest unit, but the issue seems to resolve itself almost fully after the door is opened and closed a bunch of times. This is due to the tolerances being tightened during final manufacturing, and they're aware of this and addressing it, and anyone who feels that their door latch is abnormally hard to open can contact Ghost for help. After a handful of uses the door latch on this new unit is only slightly tighter than my review units.

Other than those two things this final production unit is performing exactly the way it should. Some people are reporting that their units are running hot, and in some cases this is actually true. Ghost is fully aware of this and actually put a notice out about it before they started shipping. Once the app is available and you can pair your vape to it it'll automatically reset all of the default heat levels to the correct temperatures. With a properly functioning vape and the crucible loaded the correct way you will not experience any charring or overheating.

@shaolinmilk it shouldn't be anywhere near as hard as the FF2 to get good vapor from, I already learned my lesson from that experience.

Hi man, I'm expecting my MV1 to arrive tomorrow 25th in Ireland and having read the user comments I'm already concerned that this device is overhyped, and that I got carried away with your review.

I already own an Arizer Air and 2 Grasshoppers. The Air is a great workhorse but not convection. The GH is great (when it's working). I've RMA at least 15 times with mostly red straight to blue.

You said that the hot vapour doesn't go through the silicone. But the Ghost VDO shows that hot vapour DOES pass through the silicone. Also I've seen photos of Techno somebody posting showing gunge on the silicone. Any comment? Can the silicone be removed for cleaning?
 
WhyAreWeWaiting,

Bologna

(zombie) Woof.
I’m not going to reply for Bud, WhyAreWeWaiting, but I’ll give you my take:

All the talk (philosophy?) about silicone in the vapor path has been discussed in previous posts. I hear you cannot or should not remove the green seals (gaskets?) ADJACENT to the crucible holder but they can be cleaned fairly easily should the need arise. I know cuz it took awhile to figure out how to consume my concentrates....

Edit: for tag
 
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thx1138

Well-Known Member
I got on the list for a purchase many moons ago, now waiting and reading all this is getting me to think I am not really on the list.
edit - just made another res to be sure
edit #2 - just got a confirmation of my reservation via email, and didn't get that before so I mustn't have been on the list -f.y.i. if you didn't get a confirmation you might want to look into it
 
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Summer

Long Island, NY
I ordered mine on Friday afternoon. This morning, I received notice from Ghost that it had shipped. A bit later, UPS notified me that the scheduled delivery date of Tuesday has been revised to Monday. If all goes well, tomorrow night I’ll know whether or not it’s just hype.

I don’t have anything ground fine. Is that a key to success?

A medium-coarse grind & after grinding place it on a sheet of copy paper for a little bit until it dries out.
 

sweetherb

Well-Known Member
I realize it's early days still, but can anyone compare the vapor from the MV1 to the Cloud EVO?

Yes, I know the EVO is a plug-in unit that pulls 300W, but I am genuinely interested in the quality and potency of the vapor from the MV1.

Having used the EVO as my daily driver for the last 18 months or so, my Mighty is really not doing it for me anymore - regardless of temperature, load, draw speed, etc. If the MV1 can deliver that potent vapor at low temps like the EVO, I may consider one.
 

m0sh

Singer Song Writer Stoner
I realize it's early days still, but can anyone compare the vapor from the MV1 to the Cloud EVO?

Yes, I know the EVO is a plug-in unit that pulls 300W, but I am genuinely interested in the quality and potency of the vapor from the MV1.

Having used the EVO as my daily driver for the last 18 months or so, my Mighty is really not doing it for me anymore - regardless of temperature, load, draw speed, etc. If the MV1 can deliver that potent vapor at low temps like the EVO, I may consider one.

TBH, I doubt it, but I really want to be wrong.


An earlier member stated it compares to a balloon high. Cool and plentiful. Just like a herbie bag:drool:

haha, well, I have not used the herbie (I really really want one) , not to mention bags (years since)
Are you saying that a whip herbie is stornger than a bag harbie?

That's interesting...
 

passenger

is this thing on?
If I understand this right, this vape can not be set to exact temperatures yet like the Mighty can, am I right? That would be possible with the soon to be released App? What will the temperature range be? Also, can I set any temperature I want in the App, or are there only set intervalls? Is there an in deep review about that said App? Actually, to release it without the App is a bit strange, no? :rolleyes:
 

elykpeace

exVASted
If I understand this right, this vape can not be set to exact temperatures yet like the Mighty can, am I right? That would be possible with the soon to be released App? What will the temperature range be? Also, can I set any temperature I want in the App, or are there only set intervalls? Is there an in deep review about that said App? Actually, to release it without the App is a bit strange, no? :rolleyes:


https://www.ghostvapes.com/app/

The MV1 comes with 4 default temperature settings on the device (3 settings for herb and 1 for concentrates/ extracts). But with the GHOST app you'll open up the additional temperature controls to enhance and tailor your vaping experience.

2 favorite settings allow full control and flexibility of temperature for both herbs and concentrates. Change the temperature in between vapes and then save your ideal settings.




That's taken from their site. Kinda vauge
There's a pic of the app and it shows a temp looks like you can only cycle through the present temps and the app "unlocks" two other pre set temps.. so basically as it came with the 3 Amber 3 red light temp settings .. it was my understanding that the app allowed for custom temps. If this is not the case I might return it .. also ghost has said that the battery issues and charring/combustion can be remedied with the app. I'm hoping the app drops this week since the MV1 is inboud. Vapecritic has extended the trial to accommodate extra time needed to work out tweaks with the app ..



So, so far issues I see; App issues (overheating, Charing, battery life ) the mp scratching against the ceramic.. and the crucible being a pita untill you get it down.
....Am I missing something :hmm:
 

LabPong

Well-Known Member
Do all reviewers get a free Ghost hat? Or are you legally required to wear one when reviewing this vape? Just wondering ... :hmm:

Yes....all authorized Ghost reviewers must wear corporate attire. The attire includes officially licensed hat, underwear, socks and bath towel. So if you are watching any MV1 review vids.....and they do not have said required attire.....it is a fake review and you should not take it with any truth or legal standing.

;)
 

Custom Flower Hardware

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
TBH, I doubt it, but I really want to be wrong.




haha, well, I have not used the herbie (I really really want one) , not to mention bags (years since)
Are you saying that a whip herbie is stornger than a bag harbie?

That's interesting...
Not stronger, just faster delivery with fan assist whip plus inhaling
 
Custom Flower Hardware,
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WhyAreWeWaiting

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I’m not going to reply for Bud, WhyAreWeWaiting, but I’ll give you my take:

All the talk (philosophy?) about silicone in the vapor path has been discussed in previous posts. I hear you cannot or should not remove the green seals (gaskets?) ADJACENT to the crucible holder but they can be cleaned fairly easily should the need arise. I know cuz it took awhile to figure out how to consume my concentrates....

Edit: for tag
Hi. Thanks for that. How is it cleaned? I saw a photo on techno something with a lot of gunge in the silicone.
 
WhyAreWeWaiting,

Baron23

Well-Known Member
Mmmkey, so hello again :)

Certainly an interesting day this was. Thank God my shift is over and I can now chime in with some further feedback, particularly customer support and customer experience.
But before I get there, let me introduce myself in a more personal way as was originally desired for being able to express my opinion without getting harrassed.
I am your random guy, thrash metal fan, pretty old, pretty diabetic with a diagnosis of Irregular sleep–wake rhythm. Plus a fair tinnitus. Giving up smoking many years ago now, vaporizing became the thing for me and have had a desire for a perfect device for my everyday needs ever since. Participating in many forums I quickly realized major flaws during the baby-steps of vaporizers. My endless curiosity and thirst of understanding quickly led me to the conclusion, that actually not many people really cares about those particular aspects of vaporizers which I do. I have to admit that purity is priority for me. "Vaporizers Reviewed" videos were porn for me. I am working 6 days a week, 8 to 12 hours each, sadly not for long now. Therefore I am probably more cautious with my spendings, and maintain a tight budget for each one of my hobbies/habits. Straight to the point: after my many failed attempts for a reasonably priced, reliable vape, I decided to dedicate a FC profile, and a video channel for the sole purpose of having a loud voice, which can be heard so far as manufacturing standards.
To comply with forum rules I am trying to avoid statements at all costs, therefore I do not discuss material safety (anymore), I do not label flaws or features of devices though I do express my criticism censored, with the sole intention of being constructive.

Heres one statement though:
I am not associated with any vaporizer company, retailer, website, shop, blog whatever. I do have a personal YT channel where I publish ridiculous quality (trying to improve!) videos, I did also monetize them in hope of gazillions of Googlemoney, but my main goal was and is that I want a perfect electronic vaporizer! And I want it in this life, so I buy the promises, and unveil their breaks. Ghost MV1 was one of this great promise for me, and I do feel being let down.

So customer support following up my public observations of my purchase:

"We have also contacted legal to look into this and will be making a statement in due course.
In the event that someone has intentionally altered, interfered with or intentionally misused our product to damage our reputation, we will take the strongest possible course of action."


Thanks, I do feel threatened, even though damaging reputation is only possible, if you have one. At present, you are about to earn one for a vape just over a week old. Regardless how far a company can reach within personal data and privacy abuse, my true identity is probably already known to you. Even though you could have respond in a professional manner (like posting a Safety Data Sheet and/or Material Certificate of the "medical grade materials" used), or simply addressing at least some of the points I made, promising a solution - you choosed to accuse forgery, and promised retaliation.

Wow. Just wow.

However please let me remain supportive, and share my response for that:
I genuinely believe that I either received a bad unit, or there is an unnoticed/uninspected flaw in design. Until noone else is able to repeat my test result, I consider my case unique, though still a fault.
However, if you could offer help and cooperation at this point (instead of threat) I would have numerous suggestions of solutions.
You can probably tell by now that I quite have my mind into the subject.

Going forward with this "legal" threat-thing however will only possibly cause you more discomfort later,
if more people would happen to chime in with same observations.

To help with this test:

-Turn on a flashlight, preferably with a neutral white light, with a straight beam (not too spread. I used a headtorch with one big single LED)
-Remove crucible and heat exchanger. Press your front button 3 times repeatedly. Green LED comes on.
-Turn off light in your room, then hold the flashlight behind the vaporizer, shining upwards and forward, towards you about a 45° angle, so you lit the air above your vape. Remember to keep the source of light below your vision, in cover behind the vaporizer, so you don't go blind.
-Now press back button for heat, and watch.

Removing the crucible and the heat exchanger should not make any difference in the given physical properties and tolerances of materials used in air/vapor path. Leaving them in though would obviously obstruct the off-gas and prevent to fly up on its own, though would still be there, but not observable.
In fact, with the crucible in there is way more heat trapped between coil and bottom of crucible, as during heat-up (flashing green LEDs): there is no inhale - no airflow either.

Describing the airpath (where air comes in) and vaporpath (where vapor exit) it was mentioned only safe materials. Closer look and better understanding of things in here:
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So please just stick to science and facts. I have no intention to slander or damage your business by any means: a few exchanged faulty unit is still more affordable, than going to court with each complaining customer :D

But again, I genuinely believe that I either received a bad unit, or there is an unnoticed/uninspected flaw in design. Until noone else is able to repeat my test result, I consider my case unique, though still a fault.
After recent experience I am not entirely sure though if I dare to contact you. I am glad though I choose a public platform for a discussion, should be way more definitive. FC is a serious base of collective knowledge and world's finest bunch of vapers :D

My words on the accuse:

Please take another look of my video and think. (and click the adverts if any, I need more Googlemoney!!)
As you see, it is a continous 1:50 footage, uncut. You see and hear the device heating up, reaching temp, than glowing, twice in two minutes.
Than gassing off after each glow, clearly visible in the dark room, with a beam of white LED light shining over the opening of device.
If accusing, please be more specific on "how" I could have forge such results?
"1 small piece of something, tobacco, hair, etc " is quoted from the relevant forum, and I wonder, wouldn't any of that flare up? Wouldn't it leave ash, residues behind, charred marks maybe? Oil, wax, plastics all with a lower ignition point than the glowing coils temp? What could one possibly
use to still produce fumes after 2 minutes of glowing and high heat? If anything would burn there the smoke would be uneven, lot and dense first, then significantly less and less. What I see is thin, but constant, even fume.

Keep in mind:
I have never used the unit with any material. Still in factory condition, both crucible is immaculate, so as the ceramic parts (there are two, one around the coil, and one inside the removable heat exchanger) are spotless white. Heated some 20-odd times now, still produces offgas. If still insisted that I am fakeing this, I am happy to follow anyones instruction how to test again on video to prove my truth.

Peace,

Gibs
Wow....I didn't think they accused you of anything, but they did put out an "if/then" statement. To wit,

This is the "if" statement:

"In the event that someone has intentionally altered, interfered with or intentionally misused our product to damage our reputation,

This is the "then" statement which logically only follows if the "if" statement is true

"we will take the strongest possible course of action."

You seem like a very reasonable person and I don't disagree with much of what you wrote. I do think that perhaps they were precipitous and perhaps overly aggressive in putting out this statement and that it may have been better to reach out to you and see if any facts could be determined and possibly reach agreement on what is and is not valid criticism here.

My only thought, having watched many threads and posts on this vape since the first marketing announcments is that perhaps they didn't put their best foot forward due to fatigue (I have been through product launches and its hell), communication overload as they have been flooded with inquiries, and frankly there has been a good bit of character assassination and innuendos bandied about (not by you) throughout this whole period and I would presume that their butts are a bit chapped.

Not making excuses, per se...but perhaps offering some mitigating circumstances.

I did do a burn off on mine, and as noted earlier, with my unit there was no vapor nor any chemical smells. But that is just my one unit.
 
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Vaporcussion

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Just got the email offering the fast charger for free with purchase. Now, If you go through Bud, do you still get a fast charger for free, or just the buy back guarantee? I want both :)
 
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