Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

MarcellusWiley · Nov 15, 2011

Was just thinking about the cloud, saw the refunds coming in, and was wondering...

is there any sort of time-frame for when e-mails will go out to the $450-priced pre-orders? You had said a week after the other e-mails were sent out I believe, but I'm sure that with the credit card issues things got backed up a bit.

Just cuirous! thanks

stonemonkey55 · Nov 15, 2011

MarcellusWiley said:
Was just thinking about the cloud, saw the refunds coming in, and was wondering...

is there any sort of time-frame for when e-mails will go out to the $450-priced pre-orders? You had said a week after the other e-mails were sent out I believe, but I'm sure that with the credit card issues things got backed up a bit.

Just cuirous! thanks

Sorry to leave you guys out in the dark about that... Long story short, in case you haven't been following, we were forced to refund everyone's money and only process credit cards when the orders would be shipped. The $350 pre-orders will get emails around Xmas, once they have placed their orders, we will allow the $450 users to begin placing their orders. Hope that makes sense, let me know if you need more clarity.

MarcellusWiley · Nov 15, 2011

stonemonkey55 said:
MarcellusWiley said:

Was just thinking about the cloud, saw the refunds coming in, and was wondering...

is there any sort of time-frame for when e-mails will go out to the $450-priced pre-orders? You had said a week after the other e-mails were sent out I believe, but I'm sure that with the credit card issues things got backed up a bit.

Just cuirous! thanks

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Sorry to leave you guys out in the dark about that... Long story short, in case you haven't been following, we were forced to refund everyone's money and only process credit cards when the orders would be shipped. The $350 pre-orders will get emails around Xmas, once they have placed their orders, we will allow the $450 users to begin placing their orders. Hope that makes sense, let me know if you need more clarity.

Oh alright! I didn't realize that you meant that the "confirmation emails", stating that you could go order or "prepurchase", were going to be resent entirely. So things are just getting moved back to their more proper place then rather than giving us the confirmation so early without being able to purchase! Makes sense.

Irie · Nov 15, 2011

Excellent review on dopefiend podcast. Killer!
Nice to find the fiend as well and see him here!! Hey man!
You've only added to my anticipation!!

googlegrid · Nov 15, 2011

First post, been following the Cloud and this thread for a while and I can't wait to get my hands on one.

Stonemonkey, I just noticed your Youtube subscribers were at 420. You wouldn't happen to have anything to do with that, would you? ;D

biojuggernaut · Nov 15, 2011

"WTF is that noise! It sounds like a bloody submarine!" Hahahahaa! you guys sound like Love Fist from GTA Vice City lmao!

sunsett70 · Nov 15, 2011

@charlie - sorry, i misread you. yes, man, the whip i am partial to from my DBV use. i've got a big one that i hope can fit the opening of the cloud. just imagine taking bit hits thru the whip, wow.....also so much safer with clumsies.

dopefiend said:
I think it'd be a shame to have any Cloud attachments which don't pass the vape through water, as this is the major point of difference as far as I'm concerned- but I think it'd be possible to make some sort of bubbler with a whip attached (maybe even multiple whips, like a hookah) and a stand to hold the whole unit steady during use.

water is cool. i use some homemade bubbler thing on my lotus. yes, i feel it's always nicer with water too. also, tq for the podcast, i so enjoyed it in the absence of any new cloud vids/review.

charliedontsurf · Nov 15, 2011

sunsett70 said:
@charlie - sorry, i misread you. yes, man, the whip i am partial to from my DBV use. i've got a big one that i hope can fit the opening of the cloud. just imagine taking bit hits thru the whip, wow.....also so much safer with clumsies.

dopefiend said:

I think it'd be a shame to have any Cloud attachments which don't pass the vape through water, as this is the major point of difference as far as I'm concerned- but I think it'd be possible to make some sort of bubbler with a whip attached (maybe even multiple whips, like a hookah) and a stand to hold the whole unit steady during use.

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water is cool. i use some homemade bubbler thing on my lotus. yes, i feel it's always nicer with water too.

Obviously water is nice - I stated before that I use it 90% of the time when I vape. While I understand seeing it as a "shame" not to use water, it's also not looking at the big picture not to consider what the VXC can do dry through a whip, or with a specifically-made dry mouthpiece. And of course a hydratube with another female joint on top could be made, so that a mouthpiece or whip or even bag adapter could be at the top, so that you had water filtered whip or bag hits too. And dopefiend I hadn't considered a hookah; it'd be pretty to do with a little custom glass blowing, and I bet the super unrestricted air flow of the Cloud would be great for it.

I know I'm getting way out there at this point, trust me. :lol:

Bigmikerican · Nov 15, 2011

so just to clarify sorry lost here we are going to have to wait for an email click the link purchase again and get a NEW? order number or like for instance i ordered a sov package it says i was order number 83 so that order number is no longer valid and just wait for the email to reorder? or just sit back my order is still number 83 and you guys will email once ready to ship and you will recharge my card just trying to get a clear picture btw ty SM and all the vxc team i dont care about these hiccups cause u guys are puttin out a great product that marries the love of vaping with my love of glass PROPERLY!!!

stonemonkey55 said:
MarcellusWiley said:

Was just thinking about the cloud, saw the refunds coming in, and was wondering...

is there any sort of time-frame for when e-mails will go out to the $450-priced pre-orders? You had said a week after the other e-mails were sent out I believe, but I'm sure that with the credit card issues things got backed up a bit.

Just cuirous! thanks

Click to expand...

Sorry to leave you guys out in the dark about that... Long story short, in case you haven't been following, we were forced to refund everyone's money and only process credit cards when the orders would be shipped. The $350 pre-orders will get emails around Xmas, once they have placed their orders, we will allow the $450 users to begin placing their orders. Hope that makes sense, let me know if you need more clarity.

Silver420Surfer · Nov 15, 2011

@SM---
Little bit confused, do you mean the "special" pricing folks go first, or that all $350 orders first then $425 sov packages will follow. Sorry for asking, just not understanding. I was #79 with Sov package with preorder price of 425.
Thanks

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mongorian · Nov 16, 2011

^^

The "special" pre-order price for the SOV package was 425, not 450.

The normal price for the other two packages is 450.

I don't remember what page, but somewhere it was indicated that your choice of tube and place in line would all be preserved when the time comes to officially "order".

charliedontsurf · Nov 16, 2011

mongorian said:
I don't remember what page, but somewhere it was indicated that your choice of tube and place in line would all be preserved when the time comes to officially "order".

What about those of us who hadn't placed a CC order on their preorder yet, because they were agonizing over tubes and there were like 3 days left? I don't have a number or a guaranteed place in line or a tube choice stated. I know we're dealing with the chillest vape company ever so I'm not the least bit concerned truthfully.

sweetdreams4.2.0 · Nov 16, 2011

woot woot! got my money back, i have to say though i'm a little sad this is the first time i want someone to take my money. Hopefully the cloud comes in time for a very green christmas

Elluzion · Nov 16, 2011

Dopediend, your podcast was great. Made me laugh when you guys mentioned the one sided darth Vader thing. I think that the cloud is hard to compare to the volcano though because they both have there set purposes, and imo, the volcano is already years behind.

weedemon said:
*EDIT: I'm gonna leave this up cause it's good for a laugh, but don't waste your time, it's not a CLOUD MANUAL. haha i'm a stoner.

abo27495 said:

Can anyone post the instruction manual for the cloud?

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http://www.planetvape.ca/omicron-vaporizer-double-kit.html

click on FAQ and dl the 2 pdf files these manuals are subject to updates however

HAHAHA weedemon, you don't' understand how long I laughed at this. I was at work when I read this and literally couldn't stop hahaha. People were looking at me like I was crazy. Sooo funny

Choism · Nov 17, 2011

Nice, Stonemonkey. I see that the cloud debuted on the JRE yesterday, AWESOME!

Why was the red light still blinking even after the 2 hour mark.
Joe didn't have a comment, i think he took a weak hit, but our stoner friend Doug Benson approved it!

Anyways, can't wait, son! Im still waiting for my email to put in my order.

:peace:

vf25 · Nov 17, 2011

Choism said:
Nice, Stonemonkey. I see that the cloud debuted on the JRE yesterday, AWESOME!

Why was the red light still blinking even after the 2 hour mark.
Joe didn't have a comment, i think he took a weak hit, but our stoner friend Doug Benson approved it!

Anyways, can't wait, son! Im still waiting for my email to put in my order.

Yeah, that was unexpected but very cool.

http://vimeo.com/32244433

They bring it up at 12:55-13:18 and then again at 1:58:56 - 2:03:00

JDSupreme · Nov 17, 2011

Choism said:
Nice, Stonemonkey. I see that the cloud debuted on the JRE yesterday, AWESOME!

Why was the red light still blinking even after the 2 hour mark.
Joe didn't have a comment, i think he took a weak hit, but our stoner friend Doug Benson approved it!

Anyways, can't wait, son! Im still waiting for my email to put in my order.

Great! I worship Rogan.

stonemonkey55 · Nov 17, 2011

vf25 said:
Choism said:

Nice, Stonemonkey. I see that the cloud debuted on the JRE yesterday, AWESOME!

Why was the red light still blinking even after the 2 hour mark.
Joe didn't have a comment, i think he took a weak hit, but our stoner friend Doug Benson approved it!

Anyways, can't wait, son! Im still waiting for my email to put in my order.

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Yeah, that was unexpected but very cool.

http://vimeo.com/32244433

They bring it up at 12:55-13:18 and then again at 1:58:56 - 2:03:00

I sent Rogan and Dopefiend's unit out on the same day before my vacation and was in a bit of a rush. After I got back, I realized I grabbed one of the old beta units that was in for repair and hadn't been disassembled by mistake. Hoping to meet up with him at the UFC this weekend to personally give him his unit but if I can't, he'll have a brand new one early next week to use. Not sure how Doug Benson got a hit at all, maybe he is higher level stoner and was about to pull some vape out of a broken Cloud. :ninja:

Hoping to see the VXC make another appearance on the JRE.

BTW - I never saw the part with the blinking red light...was that in the beginning or end?

eLiguL · Nov 17, 2011

stonemonkey55 said:
vf25 said:

Choism said:

Nice, Stonemonkey. I see that the cloud debuted on the JRE yesterday, AWESOME!

Why was the red light still blinking even after the 2 hour mark.
Joe didn't have a comment, i think he took a weak hit, but our stoner friend Doug Benson approved it!

Anyways, can't wait, son! Im still waiting for my email to put in my order.

Click to expand...

Yeah, that was unexpected but very cool.

http://vimeo.com/32244433

They bring it up at 12:55-13:18 and then again at 1:58:56 - 2:03:00

Click to expand...

I sent Rogan and Dopefiend's unit out on the same day before my vacation and was in a bit of a rush. After I got back, I realized I grabbed one of the old beta units that was in for repair and hadn't been disassembled by mistake. Hoping to meet up with him at the UFC this weekend to personally give him his unit but if I can't, he'll have a brand new one early next week to use. Not sure how Doug Benson got a hit at all, maybe he is higher level stoner and was about to pull some vape out of a broken Cloud. Hoping to see the VXC make another appearance on the JRE.

BTW - I never saw the part with the blinking red light...was that in the beginning or end?

So it was the Cloud he was trying? Oh how small the world has become and ya Benson seemed to think he got a hit out of it.

BTW - I never saw the part with the blinking red light...was that in the beginning or end?
Its somewhere in the middle when Benson says we should vaporize.
Edit: 01:05:00 they mention it, they say the red light is still on.

SD_haze · Nov 18, 2011

I'd like to posit SM55's statement earlier mentioning the VXC's conductive heating

stonemonkey55 said:
Due to the nature of our ELB and the way we utilize both convective and conductive extraction methods, it improves the extraction efficiency and we produce thicker vapor while leaving the ABV a lighter color.

First off, isn't it true that the ELB can be handled almost immediately after taking a few rips out of the VXC?
I'm confused on how that would be possible if its utilizing conductive heating.

At first I just thought its just so thin, less mass=faster cooling, but then the crucible bowl for the Herbalaire is super thin too, and that takes a long time to cool down. Granted it is constantly being heated the entire time, but wouldn't the ELB still have to get significantly hot during the hit to contribute to conduction heating?

Does the ELB simply get a little hot, just nowhere near as hot as other convection/conduction hybrid vaporizers? (log vapes, supreme, iolite, HA, etc)

If so, does that mean, compared to the other convection/conduction hybrid heating systems, the "heating equation" is simply more convection+less conduction (but still both)?

I can see that being a great explanation for both its effectiveness and efficiency :tup:

Pappy · Nov 18, 2011

I can confirm the ELB is tolerable to touch directly after extraction. It's hot, of course, but cools rather quickly.

t-dub · Nov 18, 2011

SD_haze said:
At first I just thought its just so thin, less mass=faster cooling, but then the crucible bowl for the HerbalAire is super thin too, and that takes a long time to cool down. Granted it is constantly being heated the entire time, but wouldn't the ELB still have to get significantly hot during the hit to contribute to conduction heating?

Finally, something I have experience with to comment on. I find that if you dump the crucible out of the HA and use lab tweezers to set it on an appropriate heat sink, it cools within seconds. But if you leave the crucible in the HA . . . there might not be much left when you come back. One thing I did notice was to reduce the smell I put a glass over the top, using direct draw method, and a nice amount of honey oil collected while the HA was cooling. If I wouldn't have put that there it would have just gone into the atmosphere. Now, the only reason I leave a crucible in the HA when I walk away is because its cached. Otherwise, out it goes to cool. I am really looking forward to the Cloud rectifying this problem for me.

t-dub

dopefiend · Nov 19, 2011

I've left the ELB in the Cloud, while it's on, for about half an hour, then come back to it, and have found that there's very little, if any, goodness lost. On average a full bowl gives me about 20 average size hits, and I don't notice any less when I leave the chamber in the Cloud compared to when I remove it between sessions.

It's warm when you take it out, but not too hot to touch or dismantle, so that shows that it only really heats up when you're drawing.

Lo · Nov 19, 2011

I also found I could remove the ELB while it was hot, felt hot but not so much so that I couldn't handle. This vape has so many things about it I love.

Guest · Nov 19, 2011

so joe roegen gets one free but the rest of us have to pay 500 and wait for months, you have something brown on your nose bro lol.

how about giving a dozen to a club for patient review? instead of a millionare ... and if i had to bet a socal company you are.

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