Divine Tribe atty's

cib

Well-Known Member
I've never had any atomizer short issues with AF builds, turning off chktcr is handy (though it doesn't sound like the same problem):

NFE said:
ChkTCR - check coil material TCR, switching this option to off can eliminate TCR Error on heavy coils

I really like smart profiles since I switch between my ecig tank and the DC pretty frequently. One problem I have is, if the DC is still hot, I have to wait for it to cool down or else it reads as a new coil and sets the resistance incorrectly when I swap it in. Not sure if there is anyway to fix that though. :\
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Beware that the 510 port is really the Achilles's heel of these Chinese mods. Switching your attys often leads to reliability problems and sometimes premature failure. Joyetech/Wismec/Eleaf being notorious for that...

It's also why many people use 510 extension adapters in the e-cig world, this way they can ruin the 510 port on the adapter itself and not the mod (since it's cheaper/easier to ditch the adapter)
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I've never had any atomizer short issues with AF builds, turning off chktcr is handy (though it doesn't sound like the same problem):



I really like smart profiles since I switch between my ecig tank and the DC pretty frequently. One problem I have is, if the DC is still hot, I have to wait for it to cool down or else it reads as a new coil and sets the resistance incorrectly when I swap it in. Not sure if there is anyway to fix that though. :\

I'm pretty sure it's an error in the 170510 build. I saw similar posts on the AF forum, which recommended an update. I tried to go back to the previous release but the Primo Mini is not included in that so I sprang for the nightly. I have AF on 3x Joyetech devices and was getting the Atomizer Short message on all devices, even with different atomizers. Haven't seen it happen once yet since I upgraded to a nightly build. The thing about Smart mode is I have my mod set to turn off very shortly, after like 30 seconds, so when re-booting to go in on another puff it would often load me into wattage mode or a different atomizer profile than the one on the mod. Possibly because the coil may be hot still? What are your smart mode percentage? I may try "Lazy" mode and see if that fixes anything.

I've always had check TCR off, it never seemed to like my DT donuts.
 

420time

Well-Known Member
does anyone have both the source nail and the divine tribe? Can the source nail's donuts be replaced with a 10mm donut from divine tribe? I have a source nail and the donut has split in two. Was wondering since it seems very easy to replace after taking it apart. Measured the donut coil from the source nail and it is 7mm. Googled around and it sent me back to ineedhemp, I'm ordering the 7mm coils from Matt soon and will report back if it is successful.
 
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nosmoking

Just so Dab HAppy!
does anyone have both the source nail and the divine tribe? Can the source nail's donuts be replaced with a 10mm donut from divine tribe? I have a source nail and the donut has split in two. Was wondering since it seems very easy to replace after taking it apart. Measured the donut coil from the source nail and it is 7mm. Googled around and it sent me back to ineedhemp, I'm ordering the 7mm coils from Matt soon and will report back if it is successful.
I happen to have both the DTV3 kit and the Source Quartz Nail also but I dont know if I have a 7mm donut from DT. I thought it was a 10 and 13mm that came in the kits. I do know from personal experience that you can put a SourceTerra 2 cup directly on the DTV3 base so I would imagine a DT donut would work as an easy replacement for a Source donut as long as the diameter is the same. They all work on a two wire lead system and can be operated in TC NI mode. I would verify the settings for the DT as I believe they run at much higher wattage if I recall.

Lastly, I have a quartz nail atomizer from source that came with the quartz cracked but is all intact otherwise that I had not tossed yet. If you want it, PM me and its yours free.
 

420time

Well-Known Member
On DT's website the ohm could be between 1.5 or .8. As long as the voltage isn't past 4.2 with .8ohm it'll be fine from my experience and i use it with the Ti bucket since i can just torch it clean 2-3 times a day easily. But normally i wont run it past 3.5v until after 5 hits at .8omh then up the voltage there. Recently won a source vape $100 contest and bought 3 ti buckets and the 510 attachment ;D. No money out of pocket, and im loving it. Just hope this cheap replacement will work out as buying new ones are 50$ for 3.....

Oh yeah, a nail atomizer last me roughly 3 weeks and 3-4 days with rough use. Probably around 7gram was run through it and was suggested to replace it after 7grams by their "customer service".
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
and was suggested to replace it after 7grams by their "customer service".

Source sure loves that planned obsolescence business model. This part could easily be designed to last years, but there's no money in that. I was reading an article yesterday about additive 3D printed turbine blades, produced from a high-temperature-resistant, powdered polycrystalline nickel-based superalloy; able to withstand the high pressures, extreme temperatures, and centrifugal forces that arise during turbine operation. Source's engineers can barely make a metal cup stay hot. I had one, you can tell the little undersized donut is just designed to fail. Not to mention they should have used a ceramic plate instead of a donut for more even heating of the bucket, instead of the cold spot in the middle. With the Divine Tribe atomizer you don't tend to load in the middle so it's not a big deal, but on the Source Nail it definitely created pooling in the corners for me.
 
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420time

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They do have a ceramic heating plate, but that is only for the XXL models, which just came out recently. Well with what is currently used with the source nails is just a ceramic cup under the ceramic donut inside the atomizer. Even though its a very simple design im pretty happy with it so far, with the hits i can get from a 3 second warm up and 17+ draw gives clouds but the airflow has to be around 1/4 of a hole and best to a small dabber size loaded. It can load over .2-.3 but it will overflow into the top piece a little bit. If source Nail was user serviceable their reputation wouldn't be so bad i guess. The way their atomizers are built practically the same as all the other wax pens out there......
 
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420time

Well-Known Member
That is true but it looks more stoner proof. Since the smaller nail i use i tend to always touch the metal ring on top or a oil drops and miss when loading. The increase in size of the XXL dish i feel it may increase the load amount but also just create a lot of reclaim taste unless they explain to users to use lower voltage as compared to their recommended voltage of 4.2v on start up. True the flavor is good in the first hit on 4.2 but after that it goes downhill there. Also 4.2v tends to make the bowl bake up with visible residue quicker.
 

420time

Well-Known Member
That is what i use to do with the ceramic cup i had from puffco. plus. Now the ti bucket i can just take it out and torch it clean whenever i feel like.
 

cib

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure it's an error in the 170510 build. I saw similar posts on the AF forum, which recommended an update. I tried to go back to the previous release but the Primo Mini is not included in that so I sprang for the nightly. I have AF on 3x Joyetech devices and was getting the Atomizer Short message on all devices, even with different atomizers. Haven't seen it happen once yet since I upgraded to a nightly build. The thing about Smart mode is I have my mod set to turn off very shortly, after like 30 seconds, so when re-booting to go in on another puff it would often load me into wattage mode or a different atomizer profile than the one on the mod. Possibly because the coil may be hot still? What are your smart mode percentage? I may try "Lazy" mode and see if that fixes anything.

I've always had check TCR off, it never seemed to like my DT donuts.

I have smart mode set to 15% (the resistance of my coils are pretty far apart though).

Just did a test using the "lazy" setting. I think regardless of which mode, Arctic fox will update the base coil resistance if the ceramic is still warm and you're putting the tank on or powering the device, which causes problems with accuracy regarding proper temp. I normally wait until the resistance stabilizes before I take another draw to avoid burning my herb. AF also shows a live resistance reading which is handy in these situations!
 
my v1 DC dry herb tank has stopped working.
it happened before but fiddling seems to bring it back to llife.
it got worse and now it seems totally dead.
trying other tanks on my VTC worked fine and without complaint
so i put my digital meter on on the DC tank and found no continuity at all.
i only used the thing for a a couple weeks if that.
what is the max recomended wattage to use with the version 1?

geez man i cant afford to buy a new one every month.
 

Critronton

Well-Known Member
Matt: I'm about to make a large purchase. Are there any discount codes available? Feel free to PM me if necessary. Thanks in advance!
 
Critronton,

divinetribe

We are trying our hardest to become Medical Grade
Manufacturer
Matt: I'm about to make a large purchase. Are there any discount codes available? Feel free to PM me if necessary. Thanks in advance!
email me with your exact order and I will give you a quote if you like that quote I will make you a PayPal invoice
 

divinetribe

We are trying our hardest to become Medical Grade
Manufacturer
my v1 DC dry herb tank has stopped working.
it happened before but fiddling seems to bring it back to llife.
it got worse and now it seems totally dead.
trying other tanks on my VTC worked fine and without complaint
so i put my digital meter on on the DC tank and found no continuity at all.
i only used the thing for a a couple weeks if that.
what is the max recomended wattage to use with the version 1?

geez man i cant afford to buy a new one every month.
i guarantee the base for one year on that piece but first off I need to know what your exact settings were and what mod you were using
 
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Safetybreaks

Active Member
Ok. Been using and enjoying the v3 since the end of last year. Been working out great for me.

Now, digging around I saw this...care to share any more information?

 
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OF

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What a crock of 'fake facts' from the usual self identified experts using fake names...... Reminds me of why I don't haunt 'lesser Forums'. For instance, after explaining the the pending patient information on DC is a fraud to scare off copiers, we get these useful 'facts':
To justify getting something patented you have to have "intelligent property" of which there is NONE in the waxpen game.


in fact all waxpens are pretty similar in design atm, wouldn't they all be infringing on saionara and divine tribe designs?


No need to take this clowns word for it, look it up? "In the language of the statute, any person who “invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof, may obtain a patent,” It has to be useful, and "not obvious" ('to those skilled in the trade'). Patents force you to publish your secrets, the processes you wish to protect.....hence the protection (you've exposed your secrets to get there).

Any IMPROVEMENT counts, like say the construction of the 510 connector? Or screws holding the cover on?

The reality is you can patent most anything (the government is happy to take your money and give you a number) but you have to 'defend your patent' (in court). You can go bankrupt that way, I know just such a fellow that had his pioneer video game (a golf game done with film strips) in Japan destroyed by Bally (the Jukebox guys) who simply 'jumped the patent' and force GolfIn to 'take them to court'. They won, but the Lawyers got all the money and the company in the end. Because of this (being bankrupt by a 'deep pockets' competitor many companies opt to keep it all secret and hope.

But there is no requirement for "intelligent property",whatever that is. Perhaps the expert meant 'intellectual property'? But you can't patent ideas (look it up), only processes, IP is copyrighted........

Sorry to rant, but I think it's kind of scary that folks take such places as sources of reliable information.

Excuse me and the above rant, I've got to get back to enjoying my DT atty, I just dropped by...... But I much appreciate the responsible discussions with useful information typically found on FC.

OF
 

karmakid64

Active Member
I ordered my DV/V3 and I just can't wait! I also ordered a eVic Primo mini I found at a good price $40 on eBay. I'm coming from using yocan donuts on an eleaf Istick 30w. then I discovered temp control. I used the yocan donut on Ni 18w 390 and it tasted pretty good. but I'm betting the DV/V3 is going to blow me away! HA!
 

karmakid64

Active Member
The Primo mini is about $34 shipped on fasttech, unsure you really got a good price unless it ships faster from your ebay seller >> https://www.fasttech.com/product/7374100-authentic-joyetech-evic-primo-mini-80w-tc-vw-apv
yea I've seen this but the one I ordered is coming from California and this one looks like its shipping from china. I don't want to wait.
the blue screen doesn't look orginal. and a reviewer complained about receiving one that was chipped and the black grip portion coming unglued. So for 10 dollars more I have a US seller with eBay buyer protection.
It shipped yesterday, ill have it by Thursday :rockon: for those who might be interested here is the eBay link:peace:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Joytech-eVic-Primo-Mini-Mod-Battery-Kit-80W-USA-Seller-Fast-SHip/292218717659?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=591140496660&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
 
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