E-Nano from Epickai

dutz3013 said:

Thanks for everything everyone! Especially @flotntoke. I tried using the hat trick, I couldn't get much vapor production as using the basket. Is there any real reason to change other than the screen gets less dirty? Maybe my screen is already too dirty for the hat trick, i'll pick up some new screens and re-attempt it. I'll also try picking up the e-pik once I can afford another gong so the shipping price is worth the order

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CLEAN SCREENS are a must! If you see anything at all on it while looking through the stem, it is probably over due for cleaning.

Drop your screen (or screen end of stem) into some ISO. Let it sit for 20/30 minutes, and give it a little movement if you can before you pull. If you can get at it easily in stem (or have screen out), hit it a little bit with a dry toothbrush using ISO that clings to it for better cleaning. Rinse very well with hottest water you can get out of tap. It should look pretty much as clean as new. Shake and blow through it, or let it sit until no obvious moisture present, and hit it empty on nano to evaporate dampness and fully dry. Then load and give it a whirl.

A cleaned screen will work almost as well as a new one. I usually only replace when they start getting torn up from going in and out of glass (many uses). But, if your screen is cruddy it will definitely affect performance.

There's a few other tips for screen cleaning that you can find here in the thread, but think I've written enough long posts this week! Nice to have a few spares on hand and they are cheap (5 for $5), so you should pick up some when you can. Always a good idea to pick up little shit (like E-pik and screens) when placing orders for GonGs or other accessories you might need, too. But, just using a clean screen will give much better results than a dirty one. You should notice quite a difference!

From post above about using screen in hat config:

flotntoke said:

Pros: screen stays much cleaner and is easier to clean, a bit easier to set and hold proper distance, can fit a bit more material, load only has glass retaining heat instead of metal screen retaining more heat around it. Cons: can be a real pain in the ass to get into the glass!

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And, much easier to clean your heating area between loads.

flotntoke said:

CLEAN SCREENS are a must! If you see anything at all on it while looking through the stem, it is probably over due for cleaning.

Drop your screen (or screen end of stem) into some ISO. Let it sit for 20/30 minutes, and give it a little movement if you can before you pull. If you can get at it easily in stem (or have screen out), hit it a little bit with a dry toothbrush using ISO that clings to it for better cleaning. Rinse very well with hottest water you can get out of tap. It should look pretty much as clean as new. Shake and blow through it, or let it sit until no obvious moisture present, and hit it empty on nano to evaporate dampness and fully dry. Then load and give it a whirl.

A cleaned screen will work almost as well as a new one. I usually only replace when they start getting torn up from going in and out of glass (many uses). But, if your screen is cruddy it will definitely affect performance.

There's a few other tips for screen cleaning that you can find here in the thread, but think I've written enough long posts this week! Nice to have a few spares on hand and they are cheap (5 for $5), so you should pick up some when you can. Always a good idea to pick up little shit (like E-pik and screens) when placing orders for GonGs or other accessories you might need, too. But, just using a clean screen will give much better results than a dirty one. You should notice quite a difference!

From post above about using screen in hat config:


And, much easier to clean your heating area between loads.

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I was playing around with the NANO and found a very sweet spot = CIVILIZED

BIG CAN; MEDIUM CAN; SMALL CAN = CAN NANO?
Yes it CAN!

But is there a difference between the glass retaining the heat rather than the metal of using the hat vs the basket?

dutz3013 said:

But is there a difference between the glass retaining the heat rather than the metal of using the hat vs the basket?

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Not too much really, but some in longer sessions or working with larger loads. Same with the minuscule additional amount of material you can fit in. But, much easier to stir, dump for next load and clean.

I do notice a difference in hits. At least enough to deal with the hassle of inserting in glass like this. Whether the difference in heat retention (which I think it is) or something else, I find it much easier to get those awesome BINGO hits with screen as hat. IMO less contact with screen is usually better with any vape, but you need the flat side so no getting away from that part.

Yesterday.... day purple with purple haze !! And trying my hook with the nano !!




Thanks @ataxian cogi your idea, it's perfect!



Does anyone know where to get the screens low cost in europe?
i read comments to ebay, but I am unable to find it ...

Whissmu said:

Yesterday.... day purple with purple haze !! And trying my hook with the nano !!

Thanks @ataxian cogi your idea, it's perfect!

Does anyone know where to get the screens low cost in europe?
i read comments to ebay, but I am unable to find it ...

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Nice set-up @Whissmu! I love the J-hook on the nano. The extra long glass cools the vapor.

dutz3013 said:

But is there a difference between the glass retaining the heat rather than the metal of using the hat vs the basket?

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I found basket up to be a pain in the arse. When you stir or load then you have to deal with all those sharp, wiry folds in the screen getting in the way. "Hat" is the better road to travel young grasshopper. It is the pyre on which you sacrifice your weed to the gods.

On another note, I tried my hand at making one of those little moonrocks.

I grabbed a small glob of CO2 oil with a dabber, then got a bunch of ground flower to stick to it. It was a little messy on the fingers, but I pulled that little macaroon off the dabber tool and dropped it in my dirty grinder, but only in the collection chamber where all the kief has collected. I rolled it around in there for a while until any exposed sticky areas got plastered with kief.

The little naughty meatball was then dropped on a small bed of herb on the "HAT" end of my gong screen. I then added nano and bubbler, and the rest is history. History that I've already forgotten. All because I got high. Skibby bee-bop, Do-wah.

I tried the hat twice and didn't seem to get my bingo hits as easily as the basket method. I will re-attempt later today. I also noticed that I think the screen gets dirtier with the hat method because little pieces of the herb get stuck on the side of the screen between it and the glass when normally it is confined to the insides of the basket. Just my observation! I'll report results later today and my screen is now clean

I'm a hat guy. Typically do an iso soak after 8-10 loads. Sometimes I push the screen out and do a dry brushing with a little tube brush in between soaks, if I think it's needed. I feel the basket orientation plugs off sooner and needs to be cleaned more often. ymmv

BabyFacedFinster said:

I found basket up to be a pain in the arse. When you stir or load then you have to deal with all those sharp, wiry folds in the screen getting in the way. "Hat" is the better road to travel

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This ^^ +1

dutz3013 said:

Is there a guide for eNano use? I got a list of questions on how to use it properly with the dry stem and an adjustable screen.

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Just notices your post about looking for a user guide . A good place to start is https://epicvape.com/e-nano-user-guide/ if followed you will have most of the information needed to form a functional baseline of use. After you are getting consistent results its easier to judge the performance of additional changes. Good Luck.

BabyFacedFinster said:

shove it up the poop chute

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LOL, nearly spit my evening tea everywhere! Classic... you kill me.

I also second Baby, @Baron23 & others^, "hat" is best for me. Worth the initial effort to make the rest of my time hassle-free. But, @dutz3013: YMMV, whatever works for you! Play with it.
In the dry stem, I use opposing force (a skewer from mouth end and the pick on nano end) to get the screen perfectly perpendicular to the glass. Way too uptight about this...

And I gotta say again, @flotntoke: thanks for taking the time to drop all that science. You rock.

I'm seriously in love with my Nano, my intended back-up has become my go-to. So powerful & flavourful, so easy & efficient. I'm going dry more often (to my surprise) than water tool, I'm a slave to flavour I guess... Really thought I would use water more with the Nano but I guess that's less GAS for me, or maybe down the road I evolve to become more Civilised like @ataxian with shiny clean glass everywhere! One can hope...

EDIT: @Whissmu, I thought I had a screen link for ya but US only. Wrote it all out, found the guy/linked it and then thought to check his shipping = Nope. Sorry man, too high to be useful!

pxl_jockey said:

LOL, nearly spilled my evening pot everywhere! Classic...
I also second Baby, @Baron23 One can hope...
EDIT: @Whissmu, I thought I had a screen link for ya but US only. Wrote it all out, found the guy/linked it and then thought to check his shipping = Nope. Sorry man, too high to be useful!

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Glass is class.
NANO is mirco and work's well with glass.

Just get medicated as much as you can!

Let the NANO take you into space.

MAX-FLIGHT = CIVILIZED

Whissmu said:

Yesterday.... day purple with purple haze !! And trying my hook with the nano !!

Thanks @ataxian cogi your idea, it's perfect!


Does anyone know where to get the screens low cost in europe?
i read comments to ebay, but I am unable to find it ...

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That pup has the look of, "What about me? Don't I get a little vapor?" on its face! I recognize it well, though my smaller furry friend is only inches away when he looks at me like this.

BabyFacedFinster said:

.... On another note, I tried my hand at making one of those little moonrocks.

I grabbed a small glob of CO2 oil with a dabber, then got a bunch of ground flower to stick to it. It was a little messy on the fingers, but I pulled that little macaroon off the dabber tool and dropped it in my dirty grinder, but only in the collection chamber where all the kief has collected. I rolled it around in there for a while until any exposed sticky areas got plastered with kief.

The little naughty meatball was then dropped on a small bed of herb on the "HAT" end of my gong screen. I then added nano and bubbler, and the rest is history. History that I've already forgotten. All because I got high. Skibby bee-bop, Do-wah.

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Great points on "hat" screen!

Moonrocks.... you can go even further with building them up if you dare. Roll a little piece of shatter (or gooey hash) in fine ground as you did. Let it sit for a couple hours to "tighten up". Then roll in a bit more goo, and roll in kief (have it in separate dish! not in your keif stash or bottom of grinder). You can build up and add layers as you like, and this seems to work a bit better for me if I let it rest for a while in between layers. Great in nano, and even better functionally in a decent portable if you'll be out vaping for a while (like at concert or out fishing). Be forewarned - your exhales will probably reek - in a very good way.

dutz3013 said:

I tried the hat twice and didn't seem to get my bingo hits as easily as the basket method. I will re-attempt later today. I also noticed that I think the screen gets dirtier with the hat method because little pieces of the herb get stuck on the side of the screen between it and the glass when normally it is confined to the insides of the basket. Just my observation! I'll report results later today and my screen is now clean

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Nothing personal, but unless you have quite the innate talent as a vaper, you probably haven't had what I would call a BINGO hit yet. It can take a little practice and control, or a bit of luck to hit one. I (and pretty much everyone else I know of) has said "Wow! that was a particularly nice hit. I'm getting the hang of this thing," early into their nano experience. But, when you get a true BINGO hit from a nano it is a whole different thing. Can't really explain it any better than that other to say when you get one, you'll know!

If you keep your screens in good shape (know it probably wasn't you that banged this one up) you shouldn't get that "ring around the basket" problem. Sometimes I re-shape mine on the end of a wood dowel, so they don't do this. Anymore, this is usually when I scrap them because I always have a few new ones and if you're careful with them it takes a long while to get to this point.

unsorted said:

I'm a hat guy. Typically do an iso soak after 8-10 loads. Sometimes I push the screen out and do a dry brushing with a little tube brush in between soaks, if I think it's needed. I feel the basket orientation plugs off sooner and needs to be cleaned more often. ymmv

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This is what I often do, too. What makes the whole process easier and still allows for a good screen cleaning, is to push the screen so just the face (flat side) is sticking out a little past the glass. Leave at least some of the side in glass all the way around. Do this before dropping in alcohol. Carefully hit the face and what you can reach with your brush after soaking without knocking it out of flat/perfect cylinder shape. Rinse and push it back down to operating height without ever removing it and having to jockey it back in! Your fingertips will love you for it, and you get away from the minute or so of frustration that can come with trying to get stubborn one back in glass.

flotntoke said:

Not too much really, but some in longer sessions or working with larger loads. Same with the minuscule additional amount of material you can fit in. But, much easier to stir, dump for next load and clean.

I do notice a difference in hits. At least enough to deal with the hassle of inserting in glass like this. Whether the difference in heat retention (which I think it is) or something else, I find it much easier to get those awesome BINGO hits with screen as hat. IMO less contact with screen is usually better with any vape, but you need the flat side so no getting away from that part.

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I agree and also it makes the screen alot easier to clean with a toothbrush (your method)

Has anyone tried using a vapcap as an enano stem?

@LetsAllMeltDownTogether A VapCap wouldnt work with an Enano. It has different measurements than the Woodscents. The Enano has a larger heater stem/post and oven.

The VapCap would have to have a larger Ti Tip.

I'm working on some Grand Daddy Purp in my Nano right now. I love the berry taste.

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A j hook is always a nice addition and they are very inexpensive. You just need a GonG.

LetsAllMeltDownTogether said:

Has anyone tried using a vapcap as an enano stem?

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No, that wont work. Wrong size

The vapcap is a smaller diameter, its too small....... wont fit over the metal heater tube on the Enano

@flotntoke I can't seem to get my hat configuration to work as good as my basket, in regards to getting perfect bingo hits. Every time I use the hat my herb does not get as vaped, i've tried all temps between 5-8. Its either slightly green or if I leave at 7.5 for a few seconds it combusts. To do the hat configuration I just take out my basket, reinsert it upside down. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Maybe I should just stick with the basket because I can get it to consistently work better. And i'm still getting a few specs stuck between the wall of the hat config and the glass, especially when I am adjusting the height of the screen. Thanks for all the help

The hat is the proper way, the load sits on top of that. Not in the basket like a screen bowl holding the load.
Set it to the heat that consistently was working for your basket method without combustion or charring, and find the right height of the screen in hat mode for that temperature. Actuallyl, set your screen to the right height according to the e-oic, and find the temperature for that height. That is the key for me. You have to learn where the sweet temp spot is on your nano, mine is 5.75, higher I'm charring, lower and I've got whispey yanks and super light abv. YMMV.
It's in there, it is just a glass tube with heat traveling through it. How can flipping a screen make it that much harder to find a decent screen position? Do some work, you can do this.

Loving my evening Nano yanks. After butane travelers the ease and power of the Nano are a great combo to just chill with.
My man says Girl Scout Cookies in stock. Tonight's gonna be a good night.

I've tried maybe 4 packs and the screen/glass tube always seems to get messier with the hat trick and less burned abv even at the same distance when compared to the basket. I'm gonna try and flat the screen out a little more now and go for the 5th attempt and report back. Gonna use temp 6 and minimal distance between herb and heating element.

All vaporizers work on the principle of draw speed vs. temperature control. The faster you like to draw, the faster the air will flow past the ceramic heating element and the higher you will need your unit turned up......Remember that from the quick start guide., so set your screen height at the suggested depth and work on controlling the cook temperature via your draw rate. One of the keys to success with the Nano is consistency.

I've got to add my 2 cents worth. I'm not a hat fan. I prefer the basket style, less mess and easier for me. I've found the way I love using my Enano. Temperatures between 6 - 6 1/2 seems to be my sweet spot depending on the cannabis. A medium grind with the SLX grinder. I have some strains that might need a hair below 6.

The built in glass screen stem works well but I've gone through two, that when dropped seems to break right where the glass screen is. It seems to be more fragile that the other basket style (with metal screen) glass stems. Clean glass brings better vapor flavor, so do your due diligence. Keep your glass sparkling clean unless you are working on a medical hot cocoa stem.

howie105 said:

One of the keys to success with the Nano is consistency.

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CarolKing said:

I've got to add my 2 cents worth. I've found the way I love using my Enano. .

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^^^ These
Like building a golf swing, you just want it to be consistent, and repeatable. How you get there doesn't matter. Screen orientation really doesn't make a difference.

I agree whatever way works for you is the right way. Something we will all agree on that the Enano is an awesome vaporizer.

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@dutz3013 i got OK hits it was messier and more eneven ABV. I use my unit as a session vape. I stir half way through my 10 min session anyway for better extraction. If the hat method works for you, keep using the method that works best.

With vaporizers there's no wrong way if it works for you.

@CarolKing did you have a problem with getting consistently good hits on the hat as well? It seems messier for me similar to what you just wrote, and harder to get perfect hits and a perfect roast on my herb. Usually I have been getting a perfect brown (not combusted, not barely vaped) with the basket config but not the hat config. Tried the hat again earlier and seemed to get good hits but not perfect hits, again it is not fully roasted but I have roofers right outside my window so I can't test further at the moment.