Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

To expound on an earlier post, depending upon which water tool you use the EZB's yield can vary 15-20%. For example, yesterday I used a LW-15 arm bub which employs much more water and volume than the BW inline used today. The result is I'm averaging 6 rips on BW as opposed to 5 on LW per approximately the same sized load. The difference is the LW produces slightly larger hits.

I reiterate this because the VXC is designed for water tools. And the water tool you hook it up to plays a significant factor in "the type of yield" you get -- more hits or bigger hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J80ZExQtUys

Pappy said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J80ZExQtUys

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Geat Video Pappy!

Didn't know you sang! Really like that piece, looks nice with the cloud...and i gotta say, I'm always bobbing my head when I watch your vids.


Keep dancin!


Ps, every time i see one of your cloud videos, I want one sooo bad, then i have to Vape something in my eq to forget about it, lol This Vape is just amazing!

Purpl3_Haz3 said:

Pappy said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J80ZExQtUys

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Geat Video Pappy!

Didn't know you sang! Really like that piece, looks nice with the cloud...and i gotta say, I'm always bobbing my head when I watch your vids.


Keep dancin!


Ps, every time i see one of your cloud videos, I want one sooo bad, then i have to Vape something in my eq to forget about it, lol This Vape is just amazing!

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Thanks Purpl3! You're right, EQV ain't gettin' much love lately.

Another awesome video by Pappy.
your the man for putting up these vids of the vxc. I'm so stoked to get mine, expescially after seeing the sweet packaging its coming in release is getting closer..and of coarse watching you ripping huge clouds from your cloud in these vids really have me counting the days. It looks like your pulling a pretty hard on that swiss and she milks almost instantly thats very impressive..

One of the reasons I've been so excited for this vape is the people behind it. I mean you've got one of the biggest vapor enthusiasts out there who's used pretty much every vape in existence, a mechanical/electrical engineer from the aerospace industry, a "Silicon Valley corporate attack dog" and an angel investor. If one was to assemble a dream team to build a perfect vape, that's what it would look like, and to my knowledge this is the first time such a team has ever been assembled.

So the hype surrounding this vape is understandable, but when something is as highly anticipated as this there's always the danger of building it up to be so incredible that when you finally get it it doesn't quite live up to your expectations. After using this vape for 9 days, I can honestly say that it has surpassed mine.

In the 3 years I've been a part of this community and also in my personal experience, it seems that when someone tries a vape through water for the first time they're hooked right away. For most it becomes a regular thing, and many never go back if they can help it. The cooling, filtering and moisturizing effect makes a smooth hit of vapor even more soothing, which in turn usually leads to bigger hits and higher highs.

With a little effort it's possible to hook just about any vape to some sort of water filtration device, but it's still an effort, sometimes a pain, and often leaves something to be desired. To me that's why the Cloud is such a joy to use- it gets water filtration right, straight out of the box and does it better than any other vape I've ever used.

My close friends have tried lots of vapes too, and now they've tried the Cloud after listening to me gush about how great it's going to be for months end. Every single one has agreed that it's the best tasting vape they've tried (along with the vhw) and far and away their favorite direct draw unit. One of my friends has a DBV as his main vape and he swears by it. After trying the Cloud for a weekend he said "it's like the DBV is a K-car and the Cloud is a 350z".

I think any newbie who tries a Cloud next to another direct draw vape will simply say "I like this one (the Cloud) better", but to someone who's been around the vape scene for a while- this is a revolutionary product. Welcome to the VapeXhale era.



Yes there are still some rough edges, most of which have been talked about here, but the performance is no fluke. Honestly if the prototype I'm using was a production model I'd be perfectly happy, because it already blows the competition out of the water. But stonemonkey and his dream team are going to make it even better. Hang in there, it's worth the wait.

did anyone notice that the prices went up by $100?

Is there a tree-style hydratube that has a recessed joint?

roadrunnerpoker said:

did anyone notice that the prices went up by $100?

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Yes, it's been known for quite some time. That price was only for the first 1000 Pre-Orders and I'm pretty sure they even extended that way past the 1000 mark.

waveyvapes said:

Is there a tree-style hydratube that has a recessed joint?

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the sovereignty tree and the vxc brand tree will both have a recessed joint but Im not sure about the pricing

pakalolo said:

As far as the water risk is concerned, see Isn't it dangerous to suspend water in glass over electronics?

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thanks dude, it reads "The HydraTube design allows for these units to be safely and securely placed atop the Cloud. The HydraTubes were also designed to prevent splash-back. Water in the chamber will be kept there, and unless it is physically forced into the Cloud unit (by blowing down into the HydraTube) the water is on no danger of contacting the heating element or electronics. The electronics are completely separate from the vapor path so there is no issue there. "
so from an operational perspective, it is cool but i'm thinking about the risk of accidentally spilling water or when/if i break the hydratube and spill water directly unto the cloud.

a niggling issue for me, so will help if stonemonkey can say something on it.

other than that, me and my girl cannot wait to do a "Pappy swagger & the 10 count" thingy with the cloud anyone notice that pappy's voice sounds so much like jeff bridges, especially his laugh (when he forgot to put in a load in one of the videos)?

@pappy - dude, in your videos, how much is the average bowl load?

p/s - the cloud seems to be a specialist for 'Pow!" hits but i hope there will always be a place in the vaporising world for a soft-pulling quality, old-school, versatile & fun vape like the ssv/dbv.

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pakalolo said:

As far as the water risk is concerned, see Isn't it dangerous to suspend water in glass over electronics?

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thanks dude, it reads "The HydraTube design allows for these units to be safely and securely placed atop the Cloud. The HydraTubes were also designed to prevent splash-back. Water in the chamber will be kept there, and unless it is physically forced into the Cloud unit (by blowing down into the HydraTube) the water is on no danger of contacting the heating element or electronics. The electronics are completely separate from the vapor path so there is no issue there. "
so from an operational perspective, it is cool but i'm thinking about the risk of accidentally spilling water or when/if i break the hydratube and spill water directly unto the cloud.

a niggling issue for me, so will help if stonemonkey can say something on it.

other than that, me and my girl cannot wait to do a "Pappy swagger & the 10 count" thingy with the cloud anyone notice that pappy's voice sounds so much like jeff bridges, especially his laugh (when he forgot to put in a load in one of the videos)?

@pappy - dude, in your videos, how much is the average bowl load?

p/s - the cloud seems to be a specialist for 'Pow!" hits but i hope there will always be a place in the vaporising world for a soft-pulling quality, old-school, versatile & fun vape like the ssv/dbv.

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I handle the Cloud the same way you would handle any high end electronics device, very carefully. When you go for a certain amount of performance, there are always trade-offs. If you have an extremely powerful and fast car, your mileage suffers. If you take extremely high definition photos, you can't hold as many pictures on your SD card. The same holds true for vaporizers, if you want water filtration, you have to be careful not to get the water into the Cloud.

When handling any water around electronics, you always expose yourself to some level of danger. We've taken the necessary precautions that if used directly, your Cloud will continue to give you sweet vapor. The Cloud is water resistant to some level, but like most electronics, it is not waterproof. I always tell people to treat their Cloud the same way you would treat something that is really precious to you. You spent a lot of money on it, why wouldn't you treat it with care?

There are a million "what if" scenarios that you can go through in your head but the most common cause of death for Clouds currently is not educating your friends on how to properly utilize it. From a functional standpoint, it is very easy to use, but things to consider would be to always have a designated spot for your glass, and if you have animals running around, never leave the HydraTubes unattended on a table that the pets could knock off. Most glass lovers are meticulous about their glass, so if you are one of those stoners that just passes out with your stuff all over the place, then perhaps this isn't the best vape for you. There are plenty of other vapes on the market that are more durable and would be a better match for your lifestyle.

We aren't trying to be a one size fits all vape that everyone will buy, we just tried to design a vape that will produce the thickest, tastiest vapor along with the smoothest delivery mechanism. If you're the type of person that accidentally breaks a lot of their things, then I would most certainly point you in another direction. If you are the type of person that values the items that they spend a lot of money on and treat those items with care, then you will be one happy camper with the Cloud.

To answer your last question, the Cloud performs the same if you take soft or hard inhales so you are covered either way. The most common thing I see is that once people rip a glass piece hard and get huge hits, they don't really like doing the long, slow methodical inhale anymore. Once a baby can walk, crawling just doesn't seem as fun anymore.

@carbon - Follow our Facebook or Twitter, I'm in Socal from time to time and will post if I go to another dispensary.

Great marketing sub-head, SS.

"Once you can walk, crawling just doesn't seem as fun anymore."

Just cryptic enough. I like it.

lwien said:

Great marketing sub-head, SS.

"Once you can walk, crawling just doesn't seem as fun anymore."

Just cryptic enough. I like it.

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Thanks lwien, I guess every once in a while a nice metaphor pops into my head, must be because it's still early in the morning

Random question: any possibility of letting us know how many employees VXL has? I know Robot/Powernerd3000/SM are the foundation, but curious to how many more minds are internal to this project?

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We are currently a team of 5 people with myself, Robot, and PowerNerd being the most active on the Cloud design team. We also have a graphics guys helping with the website and packaging. Lastly, we have TAFKAGM aka The Artist Formerly Known as Glass Monkey making and assembling HydraTubes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J80ZExQtUys

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OK Pappy, you are starting to really piss me off, I am mad that you have all the glass pieces I want! Seriously, the Mobius, the Nate Dizzle Swiss Perc, I am really jealous. I really appreciate all the videos you have been posting for people to see, I know I am super excited when I get to see a new vid so I am assuming the rest of FC feels the same way. As always, great selection of music and we all love to see the Pappy Swagger.

One of the reasons I've been so excited for this vape is the people behind it. I mean you've got one of the biggest vapor enthusiasts out there who's used pretty much every vape in existence, a mechanical/electrical engineer from the aerospace industry, a "Silicon Valley corporate attack dog" and an angel investor. If one was to assemble a dream team to build a perfect vape, that's what it would look like, and to my knowledge this is the first time such a team has ever been assembled.
So the hype surrounding this vape is understandable, but when something is as highly anticipated as this there's always the danger of building it up to be so incredible that when you finally get it it doesn't quite live up to your expectations. After using this vape for 9 days, I can honestly say that it has surpassed mine.
In the 3 years I've been a part of this community and also in my personal experience, it seems that when someone tries a vape through water for the first time they're hooked right away. For most it becomes a regular thing, and many never go back if they can help it. The cooling, filtering and moisturizing effect makes a smooth hit of vapor even more soothing, which in turn usually leads to bigger hits and higher highs.
With a little effort it's possible to hook just about any vape to some sort of water filtration device, but it's still an effort, sometimes a pain, and often leaves something to be desired. To me that's why the Cloud is such a joy to use- it gets water filtration right, straight out of the box and does it better than any other vape I've ever used.
My close friends have tried lots of vapes too, and now they've tried the Cloud after listening to me gush about how great it's going to be for months end. Every single one has agreed that it's the best tasting vape they've tried (along with the vhw) and far and away their favorite direct draw unit. One of my friends has a DBV as his main vape and he swears by it. After trying the Cloud for a weekend he said "it's like the DBV is a K-car and the Cloud is a 350z".
I think any newbie who tries a Cloud next to another direct draw vape will simply say "I like this one (the Cloud) better", but to someone who's been around the vape scene for a while- this is a revolutionary product. Welcome to the VapeXhale era.


Yes there are still some rough edges, most of which have been talked about here, but the performance is no fluke. Honestly if the prototype I'm using was a production model I'd be perfectly happy, because it already blows the competition out of the water. But stonemonkey and his dream team are going to make it even better. Hang in there, it's worth the wait.

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Thanks for the feedback Vtac! I am very happy that the Cloud has been giving you a joyous 9 days. I was a bit worried when I heard that you received your package and then there was silence for about a week. I am happy to hear that you and your friends are taking tasty, monster rips and that the silence was just due to the testing period.

I will admit that the Cloud does still have some rough edges. We are trying to smooth them out and get it ready for prime time but all in all, I am pretty happy the way this product came out considering none of the team members have produced anything on a consumer level before. This gives me great hope and joy that our future products will only get better and better. There is a recent Apple commercial that I saw that sums up the Cloud really well. It shows the iPad being used by doctors, dads, teachers, etc etc and the to the doctor, the iPad is revolutionary. To the parent, the iPad is intuitive. To the musician, the iPad is a creative outlet. But to Apple, the iPad is just the beginning.

The Cloud itself, the heat mechanism, the air flow, the ELB, these have all sparked new creative ideas for future VapeXhale products. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself but if you guys think the Cloud is great, just wait to see what we put out two years from now

^ awesome man, if you guys could make an affordable portable all glass vape, you would crush the market

@SM55- Two years worth of dreaming? I'm guessing 3 years till anything you put out except maybe the Rain, but prove me wrong. I just know you guys leave no stones unturned, something that is very time consuming. But if the VX crew has the new luxury and income to concentrate on all vapes all the time with no other outside work? The Clouds success is inevitable so......... hmmmmm, this is possible with a quicker turn around.

Bottom line? Whatever Vape Xhale comes out with next, I'll almost certainly be buying it.

Do i think the VXC needs a party bowl? Not at all. If they came up with one? I'd probably buy it. I love the merchandise, just ask Tom or Pammy. Four PD's, a pandora, billy bowls, porta billys, t-shirts, buzz butter, extra stock stems, small stems, marked stems, stem screen replacements, lots of freebies along the way, and probably some stuff i'm forgetting. I wouldn't take back any of it, great company in many ways, that i enjoy supporting.

VX alread has a similar feeling in many ways... translated to? I'll get a Cloud production unit when it comes out. Vape Xhale Rain? I'll buy that for sure. Even if they need beta testers again also Portable made by VX? i'd buy it, although something like that probably would be years in the making. Bag blowing upgrade for the Cloud? Something i would almost never use, and really would have no need for but... I am pretty sure i'd buy it. (this is just based on the observation that of course you can rig a way with a little thought to get most vapes to blow a bag with an external pump, this is only desirable if you want a jack of all trade vapes, and master of none. I guess except for the Cloud which would still be master of one, at least. Remember Sega Genesis and the 32X upgrade? And Sega CD upgrade? This was the turning point, where Sega was no longer a legit contender against Nintendo. Draw your own conclusion.)

Bottom line, when good companies, come out with good ideas, for great products, made in the united states, i'll likely supports them over and over again until their products quality tells me otherwise.

I've started selling off my desktop units and glassware to friends in anticipation for the cloud Just sold off my buddha! Pretty soon I'll just have my MFLB to tide me over until this thing comes out. I am foaming at the mouth for this thing

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I've started selling off my desktop units and glassware to friends in anticipation for the cloud Just sold off my buddha! Pretty soon I'll just have my MFLB to tide me over until this thing comes out. I am foaming at the mouth for this thing

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Are you drinking your foggy Cloud colored kool-aid already? Sometimes the hype leaves me let down, hell it happens all the time i'm a Lions fan (great season upcoming BTW, drinking the Honolulu blue kool-aid, another let-down?)

This time i think the hype will be met.... the public will speak! (I mean for the Cloud, not the Lions)

stonemonkey55 said:

I handle the Cloud the same way you would handle any high end electronics device, very carefully. .....

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thanks sm55, just what i need to know. i guess the cloud may have to be 'off limits' to some of my clumsier friends who have a habit of breaking bongs. bring it quick, man!

I am abstaining from vaping until i get the Cloud.

Smart? Probably not.

Next level maneuver for maximum Cloud enjoyment? Fuck yeah it is


Loving your videos pappy, keep em coming!

Just did some digging on the vaporpedia and answered a question I had earlier, which I think some others might be curious about. It relates to temperature range:
"The Cloud has a wide temperature range, from 1-500 degrees F (1-260 degrees C)."

This is great since it allows it to be useful for low temp things like hops and high temp materials like salvia (ick). I was worried it would be too low for hops but this is great to see.

abo27495 said:

waveyvapes said:

Is there a tree-style hydratube that has a recessed joint?

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the sovereignty tree and the vxc brand tree will both have a recessed joint but Im not sure about the pricing

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This is conflicting info - couple posts back the answer was 'protruding'. Can someone clear this up? I'm not 100% on it either.

ThouShaltVape said:

abo27495 said:

waveyvapes said:

Is there a tree-style hydratube that has a recessed joint?

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the sovereignty tree and the vxc brand tree will both have a recessed joint but Im not sure about the pricing

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This is conflicting info - couple posts back the answer was 'protruding'. Can someone clear this up? I'm not 100% on it either.

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the vertigo tree has a protruding joint

Survivalism said:

I am abstaining from vaping until i get the Cloud.

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I thought about taking a break in anticipation but figured it would be too long and would color my objective opinion of the device in the end.

SM: seeing how your located in the bay area, would local buyers have the chance to purchase them in person when it is released? thx