Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

yep pre-order sale price must be over. i expected it to be a lil more than that even to be honest.

Well, since this is the only vape I want to use I figured I'd better create some accessories. The biggest thing for me is what to do with the hydratube and ELB's between hits. So I unveil the official, licensed CloudCaddie! I can reproduce them for as little as $10 plus shipping. It's made of beautiful, exotic fifty year old pine that was just extracted from my kitchen wall I just demolished. Get them now before I raise the price once I figure out how to stop splitting the wood and burning up drills!

pakalolo said:

Can you give me approximate weight, with and without hydratube?

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I can do an exact weight when I get home, but it'll go up a little if they increase the power cord length to 10'.

stickstones said:

Get them now before I raise the price once I figure out how to stop splitting the wood and burning up drills!

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And that bottom piece makes a nice shelf for the Cloud unit. You should be in backorder status in no time. Better get busy tearing down another wall.

how much herb do u guys use per load?

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I'm gonna check that next session. I will compare it to what I use in my SSV.

herbzzzzzzzz said:

how much herb do u guys use per load?

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.030 to .040 g... I'm averaging about .034 g per load.

IAmKrazy2 said:

The VXC is just so far ahead of the competition. Being without it is tough, and medicating with any of my other wand types just have left me unsatisfied. The Supreme has been nice, but I broke a wire on the temp guage a long time ago. A litle tougher to get perfection without it. Apples and oranges, but the PD's are getting worked cause they're easy to use

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I was wondering if the vxc bowl works on the 18.8 joint of the MW? That would be sick

when will a unit of this be available? i thought i was able to wait, but my aromazap just died today and it looks like i'm going to need a new vaporizer soon. i'd really like it to be the cloud, but if i have to wait too long, i'm afraid i might have to pick another vaporizer instead

Pappy said:

herbzzzzzzzz said:

how much herb do u guys use per load?

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.030 to .040 g... I'm averaging about .034 g per load.

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Wow, guess you can conserve with the Cloud! How many hits are you
getting off of that amount? Also curious how much herb to fully pack
the bowl?

I probably did anywhere from a 10% bowl pack to a 90% bowl pack completely tampered down. Works great with any and all amounts, but i wasn't measuring weight.

The ELB fits snugly into the SSV wand and is the same height. So a 3/4 pack of the ELB (recommended amount) would get you around 5/8 full in the SSV wand. So far, I'd say they are both similarly efficient, especially when I load both bowls lightly.

wow that rivals pd efficiency but you get the all glass, mositure hit, crazy

iam goin on a t break to save up some cash and will make the cloud my primetime go to guy

Remember the old MTV add campaign, I think it was in the early 90's... it went "I want my MTV..."

I keep saying it the same way, but "I want my VXC..." I miss it

#8 VXC should have arrived back to the bay area today sometime. For sure there is more beta testers then i expected, but glad to see the overall response it very positive. Hey NoSmoke, aren't you in the mix somewhere too?

CORRECTION:
EVB load is .30 to .40 g...
I'm averaging .34 g per load, approximately 3 loads per gram. I get 5 to 7 rips depending on which glass.

CORRECTION:
EVB load is .30 to .40 g...

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LOL

i was waiting for that

i think that's about the same i load into my ssv.

weedemon said:

i think that's about the same i load into my ssv.

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Roughly the same here, perhaps slightly more, but I get ~20 hits from that in the SSV...

The Cloud looks truly mouth-watering but it's just the efficiency aspect I'm concerned about. I suppose you can always just use other vapes if you need to be sparing with your bud, and then whip out the Cloud when you're stocked up and want to get f*cked up!

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So far, I don't see the Cloud being any less efficient than the SSV. The difference is you can get it in fewer, thicker hits. Some will say that in and of itself is inefficient, and they may be right, but that is at the lung level. If my usage goes up, it will be because my tolerance went up like it did when I started using the SSV more than the PD. But I was able to load just a little into the Cloud and get a one or two hit session that was nice and thick as well, similar to how I can in the SSV.

This vape isn't going to replace anyone's PD, and it's not supposed to. This vape is radically different from anything else I have, and it took a few sessions to get used to. But now I love it and the new routines. Max has been saying for years that comparisons based on bowl size, number of hits, etc. aren't really accurate due to personal differences, and he's right; but never more right than with the Cloud.

The Cloud is in a class by itself, even a new category of vape. It will appeal to any vapor enthusiast and anyone wanting to get the tastiest, most satisfying vapor hits. Sure, it can blow through a stash if that is what you want to do, but it is not necessary to enjoy it (just like the SSV).

I think it will be most compared to the SSV and the Supreme, just because of the big hits. But I have seen the light, and monkeyman was right about how great an all-glass setup can taste.

stickstones said:

But I have seen the light, and monkeyman was right about how great an all-glass setup can taste.

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I'd 2nd this big time!! I'm amazed

I did try small loads last night, I don't weigh tiny amounts but I'd say 2PD bowls worth or thereabouts. Provided very tasty hits and a good 8-10 of them. With this vape the hits feel so smooth but really hit you hard. I ended up quite happy after one small bowl and ended up waiting a couple hours to try small load again. The small loads also cooked very evenly without any fuss at all. I do think you could use this conservatively but the PD will still have a place in my arsenal, particularly with folks I'd be afraid to let near glass.

I did have to go out yesterday for awhile and took my IO's. Holy crap, after using the Cloud and then using the Iolite I realized the Cloud is spoiling me. I've been using IO's for almost 2yrs when I need to be mobile. Yesterday I just felt like I was sucking on a hair dryer...hot, dry air and I was missing the Cloud badly. I dare say this is spoiling me quite a bit.

^^maybe a portable with water filtration in the future? The cloud mini lol

Read my mind Havock!! I found myself grabbing an ice cube from my drink and keeping it in my mouth while hitting the IO to try and cool things down.

That wild be sweet though. Hydra tubes the size of pd stems lol

wilf789 said:

weedemon said:

i think that's about the same i load into my ssv.

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Roughly the same here, perhaps slightly more, but I get ~20 hits from that in the SSV...

The Cloud looks truly mouth-watering but it's just the efficiency aspect I'm concerned about. I suppose you can always just use other vapes if you need to be sparing with your bud, and then whip out the Cloud when you're stocked up and want to get f*cked up!

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How does one define efficiency? With the VXC i can brown through everything evenly and effectively. In my opinion, this is one of my top 3 most efficient vapes. I would put it in similar company to the Supreme, and a step bellow the PD. This will get you huge hits, but all the good stuff will be out of the med's with very little practice. can you run through herb? Yes. Can you take the thickest milkiest vapor hits ever, that get you from point A to point B quicker? Yes. Can you use small amounts? Yes. I am convident i would feel more ripped with less effort when using the VXC over something like the MW or LSV. i think this thing was very efficient at getting the good vapor out of the herb and getting all of it.

effeciency is different for everyone. it used to be my #1 concern when buying a vaporizer.

Since getting my magickwand and using it once, I see why many people like the variable vapes for thorough vaping. Getting the most out of a load is nice.

And if you enjoy using the unit, who cares?



nice to see this coming along, I wish I had sigtned up for the pre order!

stickstones said:

This vape isn't going to replace anyone's PD, and it's not supposed to.

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Lo said:

I did try small loads last night, I don't weigh tiny amounts but I'd say 2PD bowls worth or thereabouts. Provided very tasty hits and a good 8-10 of them. With this vape the hits feel so smooth but really hit you hard. I ended up quite happy after one small bowl and ended up waiting a couple hours to try small load again. The small loads also cooked very evenly without any fuss at all. I do think you could use this conservatively but the PD will still have a place in my arsenal, particularly with folks I'd be afraid to let near glass.

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You can certainly vape small amounts in the Cloud, but if I'm gonna load the amount I'd load in the PD, I'm gonna use the PD, if I've got one. The Cloud is meant for big, satisfying hits, not small satisfying ones-that's where the log vapes shine. While Lo was testing small hits, I was testing high temp hits, and they felt like low temp hits from my SSV-just really smooth. I imagine this was mostly due to the water filtration, which I'm not used to, so it's probably not a unique Cloud feature. OTOH, this is a great vape for those who, like me, may appreciate filtration but don't want to mess with a larger, bong type vape, or connecting a regular vape to a bong. Imagine a log vape, handling wise (larger of course, but in the same ballpark), with turbocharged hits and water filtration.

IAmKrazy2 said:

How does one define efficiency? With the VXC i can brown through everything evenly and effectively.

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This was one area I was really interested in, and I've been thrilled with the results. I don't want to have to remove the bowl from the Cloud to stir or shake, in order to get an evenly cooked bowl. This is necessary with the SSV, unless you have a small amount loaded and make an effort to evenly distribute the hot air stream. Even then I find myself not trusting it to provide an even roast unless I do stir. Whether I look at the Cloud's ABV after a 12 o'clock vape, or go to a higher temp, I get a very consistent color to the ABV. Granted, I'm careful to take the extra hit or three to make sure. If you quit as soon as you stop seeing a lot of exhaled vapor, you may be stopping short on the bowl. But from what I've seen, the Cloud seems to be as efficient as the herbalAire in bag mode, and herbie, IMO, is as good as it gets for thorough, even cooking.

Like sticks and Lo I'm coming to the Cloud from the SSV, as far as similar vape types. While I'd surely use the SSV a lot less if I have access to a VXC, the SSV with standard connection does allow a degree of control over your hits that you can't get with a gg connection. So I can see still using my SSV occasionally (maybe with the hydratube ). OTOH, if I'm a DBV owner, I'm probably going to prefer the VXC hits, and the DBV is going to get put away to collect dust.