Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

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stonemonkey55

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There are a few reasons why we didn't include a digital readout into the Cloud, the most important being the fact that you can easily find your sweet spot with very little experimentation. We do not deny the fact that a digital readout would make things easier, but in our experience, vaporizers that have a digital display hardly ever display the temperature of the location where the herb is being vaporized.

On top of that, many different strains of herb vaporize at different temperatures and while one strain might optimally vaporize at 350, another might vaporize better at 360 or 370. Because of these two factors, we decided to forego the extra cost of putting in a digital display. Since most of our early customers are also experienced vaporists, fine tuning an analog vape to find the optimal vapor temperature is something most of us are used to.

Once we change the strategy of this company from one that is in start up mode, to one that is thinking about growing and maintaining a company, these will be features that we can add in the future but in order to give you guys more bang for your buck, we decided to forego this feature in the present model. Hopefully this sufficiently answered your question.
 
stonemonkey55,

Survivalism

Weapon Enthusiast
stonemonkey55 said:
There are a few reasons why we didn't include a digital readout into the Cloud, the most important being the fact that you can easily find your sweet spot with very little experimentation. We do not deny the fact that a digital readout would make things easier, but in our experience, vaporizers that have a digital display hardly ever display the temperature of the location where the herb is being vaporized.

On top of that, many different strains of herb vaporize at different temperatures and while one strain might optimally vaporize at 350, another might vaporize better at 360 or 370. Because of these two factors, we decided to forego the extra cost of putting in a digital display. Since most of our early customers are also experienced vaporists, fine tuning an analog vape to find the optimal vapor temperature is something most of us are used to.

Once we change the strategy of this company from one that is in start up mode, to one that is thinking about growing and maintaining a company, these will be features that we can add in the future but in order to give you guys more bang for your buck, we decided to forego this feature in the present model. Hopefully this sufficiently answered your question.

Am i still able to pre-order at a discounted price? I tried to pre-order when you first put the page up and my order did not go through and i forgot to put another one in.

Im actually kind of happy it has taken this long for it to be released, i didnt have to money to pick one up before but a Q1 launch is perfect for me. Cant wait to have a heavy hitting vape again!
 
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stonemonkey55

Chief Vapor Officer
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@surv - good to hear from you buddy, definitely sign up and I'll reserve your Cloud for ya!
 
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Shiz

Well-Known Member
stonemonkey55 said:
- The bowl system is very simple but very effective. If you imagine a thimble that is made of stainless steel mesh with a cap on top that you can put into the male glass on glass joint, that will give you a good idea of the bowl. The bowl works effectively with small or large amounts but obviously, if you want larger clouds, the more the better ;)

- The Cloud is an analog vaporizer that doesn't have any temperature markings. There will be different hash marks on the unit so that once you find your desired setting, you will be able to easily dial it in every time. The temperature/vapor will not be determined by how fast/slow you inhale, we have put significant time and energy into our heat retention capabilities so that once you select a desired temperature, you will get the same type of vapor whether or not you inhale slowly or quickly.

The bowl and heat retention sounds perfect...almost too good to be true.
doubledown said:
Any pictures of the Sovereignty Gridded HydraTree?
Waiting for this also.
 
Shiz,

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
Since most of our early customers are also experienced vaporists, fine tuning an analog vape to find the optimal vapor temperature is something most of us are used to.

Oh yeah, my thoughts exactly. No complaints. Many of the VXC owners probably already own a VHW, and the cloud seems it should be even easier to dial into perfection. How deep you pack your bowl, also will likely be a factor in what temp you use.
 
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Pappy

shmaporist
stonemonkey55 said:
There are a few reasons why we didn't include a digital readout into the Cloud, the most important being the fact that you can easily find your sweet spot with very little experimentation. We do not deny the fact that a digital readout would make things easier, but in our experience, vaporizers that have a digital display hardly ever display the temperature of the location where the herb is being vaporized.
On top of that, many different strains of herb vaporize at different temperatures and while one strain might optimally vaporize at 350, another might vaporize better at 360 or 370. Because of these two factors, we decided to forego the extra cost of putting in a digital display. Since most of our early customers are also experienced vaporists, fine tuning an analog vape to find the optimal vapor temperature is something most of us are used to.
Agree! Digital readouts are of negligible value due to manufacturing inconsistencies and variable sensor placement. I've seen more confusion produced by digital readouts than enlightenment.
 
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Nycdeisel

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Pappy said:
stonemonkey55 said:
There are a few reasons why we didn't include a digital readout into the Cloud, the most important being the fact that you can easily find your sweet spot with very little experimentation. We do not deny the fact that a digital readout would make things easier, but in our experience, vaporizers that have a digital display hardly ever display the temperature of the location where the herb is being vaporized.
On top of that, many different strains of herb vaporize at different temperatures and while one strain might optimally vaporize at 350, another might vaporize better at 360 or 370. Because of these two factors, we decided to forego the extra cost of putting in a digital display. Since most of our early customers are also experienced vaporists, fine tuning an analog vape to find the optimal vapor temperature is something most of us are used to.
Agree! Digital readouts are of negligible value due to manufacturing inconsistencies and variable sensor placement. I've seen more confusion produced by digital readouts than enlightenment.

I agree, Pappy. maybe we can look forward to a revolution in digital temperature display some day in the future(not just for bags)! But until then, Im handling the non digital vapes quite well.
 
Nycdeisel,

Pappy

shmaporist
When all is said and done however I must say I love the remote control on my Q. ;)
Bongs and elbow bowls almost negates its use but is cute. ;) :D :lol: :cool:
 
Pappy,

Survivalism

Weapon Enthusiast
stonemonkey55 said:
@surv - good to hear from you buddy, definitely sign up and I'll reserve your Cloud for ya!

Done, cant wait to see the release man! I imagine its going to get crazy around here lol
 
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stonemonkey55

Chief Vapor Officer
Manufacturer
Beta units starting to come together! looking forward to getting some real world reviews from our beta testers. Waiting on some custom glass for these guys, but almost ready to send out.
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EntRance

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stonemonkey55 said:
There are a few reasons why we didn't include a digital readout into the Cloud, the most important being the fact that you can easily find your sweet spot with very little experimentation. We do not deny the fact that a digital readout would make things easier, but in our experience, vaporizers that have a digital display hardly ever display the temperature of the location where the herb is being vaporized.

On top of that, many different strains of herb vaporize at different temperatures and while one strain might optimally vaporize at 350, another might vaporize better at 360 or 370. Because of these two factors, we decided to forego the extra cost of putting in a digital display. Since most of our early customers are also experienced vaporists, fine tuning an analog vape to find the optimal vapor temperature is something most of us are used to.

Once we change the strategy of this company from one that is in start up mode, to one that is thinking about growing and maintaining a company, these will be features that we can add in the future but in order to give you guys more bang for your buck, we decided to forego this feature in the present model. Hopefully this sufficiently answered your question.

Thanks a lot, stonemonkey. This makes sense. I'm probably not the "main" market for the first run of the Cloud, as I'm very new to vaporizing. I only own a VaporGenie and my pre-order of the Cloud will be my first "high end" vape. I chose the Cloud because of the health factors of a true all glass vapor path and moisturized vapor (I vape for medical reasons) and the feature set for the price, which seems to be head and shoulders above the competition.

I understand there is a learning curve to any vaporizer and many variables in terms of optimum vaporization, but I'd really appreciate if the Cloud offered documentation, options, and settings conducive to anyone reaching maximum potency and flexibility, even new users who don't have the experience and "mouth feel" of veterans.

Everything is looking great so far and I'm excited to see such progress!
 
EntRance,

stonemonkey55

Chief Vapor Officer
Manufacturer
@EnTrance I totally understand where you are coming from and we were all new to vaporizing at one point. I wish fc.com was around when I first started so I could quickly accumulate vapor knowledge and not learn from trial and error.but I digress

We did try to make fine tuning the Cloud very simple, for example, the default temperature setting will be the 12 o'clock position. The knob will make a small "click" at the noon setting and for most strains of medicine, this will be a good starting point.

If you want more of a cerebral high, then you can turn down the heat, if you want something thicker and more heavy, then maybe turn the notch to 1 or 2 o'clock. Whatever the case, when you first get your Cloud, simply start at the noon position and from there, fine tuning it will be as easy as 1-2-3.

In addition to a set of instructions, I will be releasing a "how to" video for the Cloud that will cover all the basics. Watching the video will give you a good understanding of how to grind your medicine, how much to load, what temperature to use, how often you should stir, and whole bunch of milk shots with various glass pieces. Stay tuned!
 
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2EZ

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@stonemonkey55- I just heard about vapexhale and the cloud today and Im very excited for the cloud and vapexhale's future products, especially the rumored portable vaporizer that was mentioned at the beginning of this thread. Are there any updates on the portable vape and what is your best guess at a release date?
 
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doubledown

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SM55 cool pic of the housings. Are they all aluminum or is there plastic on there as well? And, still waiting on a pic or info on the SG tubes.
 
doubledown,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
Oh my!! The photos look great!! Exciting stuff here SM, very exciting :)
 
Lo,

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
@ SM, is the one in the bottom right missing a cover, or was it built with a silver color instead on black? Thanks
 
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george

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IAmKrazy2 said:
@ SM, is the one in the bottom right missing a cover, or was it built with a silver color instead on black? Thanks

Seems as though it was built that way on purpose. You can see the Vapexhale logo just like the black/silver models.
 
george,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
The Silver one looks special :o They all look great though!!

Can't wait to see the glass with them :p
 
Lo,

stonemonkey55

Chief Vapor Officer
Manufacturer
@2EZ - we have not begun work on a portable version of the Cloud but when we designed the Cloud, we made sure that we were using power sources that didn't require a lot of juice. There is no release date for the portable version but once we get PowerNerd working on it, I'll be sure to update you guys.

@doubledown - the housing is 100% aluminum, no plastic :D As for the SG HydraTubes, that is one thing that we will be keeping close to our chest. There has to be something to look forward to right?

@everyone else - how did I know I would get more questions about the silver Cloud...LOL. Long story short, the silver one is the one that gets all the firmware upgrades first and the one that I do the majority of the testing on. It was just an easy way for us to differentiate all the different Clouds we have been working on.
 
stonemonkey55,

moodswing

low tolerance is underrated
COUNT ME IN!

sm55 you got me excited with that pic so i had to finally officially pre-order. been reading this thread for a while now and its been great to witness your progress. did you guys decide not to go with that original grey/charcoal color scheme completely?

:brow: CAN'T WAIT! :brow:
 
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