Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

MileHighHuman

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Yes the dnail dish does work it is just slightly loose fitting. If there were 1-2 more threads on the flower pot head it would be perfect.

Perfect. This is what i want.

So what items do i need to purchase if i already own DNAIL and 16mm enail??

i know the FlowerPot body/base. But what else? is REQUIRED? (Not wanting to purchase anything unnecessary)
 
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Justpassedu

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Perfect. This is what i want.

So what items do i need to purchase if i already own DNAIL and 16mm enail??

i know the FlowerPot body/base. But what else? is REQUIRED? (Not wanting to purchase anything unnecessary)
That's really all you need to get started , a stand is reccomended to hold the head if your are taking Flower hits , but if you got a nail and coil already you can get started with the basics and add extras as you go.
 

Likes2vape

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Id like to see a video of what type of potential this thing has.

Especially now since it has dethroned the Sublimator.

There are a few milkshots out there i know, but if anyone is able to throw .5 of flower only into the chamber and see how huge of a rip it can really put out then that would help me understand the flowerpot's power.





So the DNAIL SiC dish will work? It'll just be a little more loose compared to the TAG dish?
.5 unground nug in 4 hits. Sorry for the crappy lighting.


 

Zow237

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@Likes2vape. Very nice! Love that this can vape more than just microdoses. This is very tempting but I think I'm going to hold out for the glass symphony. But I'm def torn here :(
 
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Cannabis-Hardware-Ed

Seeking Higher Ground
Manufacturer
@Cannabis_Connoisseur thanks for the 20mm coil suggestion

not a problem with the 20mm coil support. it will appear on the site after the NorCal cannabis cup next weekend (2 weeks).

I will also acquire the dnail sic dish and make the necessary changes to keep the dish from spinning.

Thanks @everyone for the inspiring ideas on ways to improve the flowerpot product



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has anyone else tested very fine grind. I find much better vaping results with fine grind herb. I believe this is because the surface area of the material has been increased with the fine grind. which allows the passing by hot air more material to come in contact with and increases any vape's efficiency. I'd love to hear other's opinions.
 
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Justpassedu

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has anyone else tested very fine grind. I find much better vaping results with fine grind herb. I believe this is because the surface area of the material has been increased with the fine grind. which allows the passing by hot air more material to come in contact with and increases any vape's efficiency. I'd love to hear other's opinions.
100% fine grind works great , been using your NV fine grinder and it happens to produce the perfect results and a heavy , dense cloudy hit but if you want a lighter session a more corse grind will provide that . I have tried several fine grinders and the reason I happen to like yours the most is 1 the quality is just unreal but the fact it doesn't use a kief catch and all those precious crystals stay with my flowers and provide a tastier session and probably get me more medicated. Also using the fine grind method really helps you extratct everything out of the flower allot quicker and more evenly. Good luck at the Cannabis Cup , ty for always making updates for us and doing it quickly , something most companies do not do for years to come . An ever evolving machine with a bright future ahead . Really loving this Flowerpot . Also as for the Sic , I have been noticing it has been a bit easier to clean compared to the quartz which helps allot , I still need some more rounds with it but taste is on par with the quartz so far and it's a great option to have .
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
@NewVape710 I'm totally digging your style man! It's pretty funny right - find out directly what the customer wants and then build it - What a concept! You'd think these multi billion dollar companies with a 300 person marketing department could figure it out.

Keep doing exactly what you're doing. Hope to get a FP in my own hands soon enough. I saw the new bowl on your site last night with the hempwick, just like we all talked about a week ago. So cool!

And I tend to agree fine grind = more surface area = better experience. I figure the easier you can get to those resin heads, the lower temps can be used which I'm a fan of.
 

anasrzi

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Can those who own there flowerpots confirm or deny something for me please. From what I've read and understood you leave the nail and nut to heat up separately away from the bowl, so the nail is hot, the bowl is cold is this right?

If that's the case has anyone tried to heat both the nail and bowl together much like you do on a sub to create thermal equilibrium? Perhaps they get stuck being at the the same temp? Perhaps they you get possibly more stuck if ones hot ones cold?

As I don't yet have the FP or any of its parts I wonder why it's advised to leave the nail off instead on making that thermal equilibrium so similar to the sub? This is especially true if you load it like the sublimator, heat up the whole unit (all that metal), toss in a pinch of herb, inhale then dump the load.
 
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Justpassedu

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Can those who own there flowerpots confirm or deny something for me please. From what I've read and understood you leave the nail and nut to heat up separately away from the bowl, so the nail is hot, the bowl is cold is this right?

If that's the case has anyone tried to heat both the nail and bowl together much like you do on a sub to create thermal equilibrium? Perhaps they get stuck being at the the same temp? Perhaps they you get possibly more stuck if ones hot ones cold?

As I don't yet have the FP or any of its parts I wonder why it's advised to leave the nail off instead on making that thermal equilibrium so similar to the sub? This is especially true if you load it like the sublimator, heat up the whole unit (all that metal), toss in a pinch of herb, inhale then dump the load.
I can confirm you are correct in that you leave nail and nut to heat up separate. Leaving them together for me just doesn't suit my needs as I am mostly a flower user and like to reload occasionally and the bowl portion would quite possibly get to hot to dump comfortably. As for the science part you speak of I am just to happy with how it's all working by leaving them separate to want to try leaving them together , I don't think they would get stuck if left together but it's possible , there is some clearance for thermal expansion .
 

MileHighHuman

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I can confirm you are correct in that you leave nail and nut to heat up separate. Leaving them together for me just doesn't suit my needs as I am mostly a flower user and like to reload occasionally and the bowl portion would quite possibly get to hot to dump comfortably. As for the science part you speak of I am just to happy with how it's all working by leaving them separate to want to try leaving them together , I don't think they would get stuck if left together but it's possible , there is some clearance for thermal expansion .

Wow i didn't even know that you heated them up separately!

And can you explain "the bowl portion would quite possibly get to hot to dump comfortably"
Are you referring to combustion??
Or just like, the metal handle gets too hot to hold from the heat transferring?

Having them heat up separately would create much more convection style vapor
Compared to if both parts were heated up together creating conduction
id definitely do some convection vs conduction testing to see the different results.
 

Justpassedu

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Wow i didn't even know that you heated them up separately!

And can you explain "the bowl portion would quite possibly get to hot to dump comfortably"
Are you referring to combustion??
Or just like, the metal handle gets too hot to hold from the heat transferring?

Having them heat up separately would create much more convection style vapor
Compared to if both parts were heated up together creating conduction
id definitely do some convection vs conduction testing to see the different results.
I have not left it on long enough yet with the handle bowl to tell but with the bowl without the handle that would definitely get hot if left on and than you'd be in the situation of not being able to empty easily when finished . I wouldn't say it would combust if left on although I never tested that , there def is some radiant heat entering the bowl portion but I believe it wouldn't be enough to cause combustion. It is when you start to draw , than that hot air is forced down into the bowl to cook your material . I am not expert to be honest , just trying to answer as Best as I can for you but you are definetly correct in saying if left on some confusion would play a factor and I happen to like that covenction aspect allot better. It's kinda like a hybrid with a little bit of both .
 

PoopMachine

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The Flower Pot is completely convection the bowl isn't getting hot enough for conduction. The radiant heat definitely aids in the convection to be sure though.

I will if you leave the head on it long enough.

This is seriously one of the best inventions ever. I did the same thing with a ghetto setup a few years ago and I asked Joda and I asked Oregon Glass Blower to make me an adapter to do this without my crazy setup. Neither one was interested. I did find, tho, that the only nail that setup worked with was the Happy Daddy Genesis nail. I think because it holds so much heat.

But the FlowerPot is awesome! Im going to buy another base just so I have one to use without concentrate. Taking that thing off and cleaning it when its hot sucks. The new base with the handle tho, is awesome. Ill be ordering one of those this week.
 

vaporist4LIFE

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IT'S TOO MUCH FOR ME GUYS LOL
Going to the bank today to deposit money that PayPal should have transferred by now urgh! Ordering this bad boy today no doubts there !!
Correct me if I'm wrong but it ships from Florida ? Not that far away ;)
Hoping to get it this week ! Any cleaning duties that need to be done before using first time ?
Very excited to compare flavor from this quartz, and for the first time sic! , to my daily quartz enail.
Today doesn't feel like a holiday weekend imo, but happy declaration day !
Never forget your history guys and gals , it always repeats itself in some way :)
Enough of that time to vape soon !
Heading over to the Supreme thread in 3..2.....1...
 

Melting Pot

Sick & Twisted
Today doesn't feel like a holiday weekend imo, but happy declaration day !
Never forget your history guys and gals , it always repeats itself in some way :)
Not trying to be rude but today isn't declaration day what ever the fuck that is.
It's fucking Memorial fucking day.
The day we give thanks to the soldiers & their families for giving up their lives for our freedom.
Now I'm aggravated and I'm gonna go fire up the sv3...
 

vaporist4LIFE

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Not trying to be rude but today isn't declaration day what ever the fuck that is.
It's fucking Memorial fucking day.
The day we give thanks to the soldiers & their families for giving up their lives for our freedom.
Now I'm aggravated and I'm gonna go fire up the sv3...
Lol you did the exact opposite of what I said about reading history my man. Before you knew it as memorial day it was declaration day.didnt become an official holiday until the 60's
Know your history ;)
:peace:
 

Melting Pot

Sick & Twisted
Lol you did the exact opposite of what I said about reading history my man. Before you knew it as memorial day it was declaration day.didnt become an official holiday until the 60's
Know your history ;)
:peace:
Got me there.
Just pisses me off most just think of it as a three day weekend and could give a fuck less.
 
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vaporist4LIFE

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Conduction vaporization happens when herb touches surfaces hot enough to vaporize the good stuff on contact. In the Flower Pot design only a small amount of herb is in contact with the bowl's hot metal sides that could possibly take advantage of conduction vaporization. People usually don't 'heat soak' long enough to heat the FP bowl to the point it would conductively vaporize herb. Also, leaving the nail on the Flower Pot bowl would bake everything that is good out of the herb before the metal sides reached conduction vaporization temperatures. A larger factor in this design is the effect of radiant heat.

If a person really wanted to push conduction effects with the Flower Pot a approach may be to preheat the bowl until it reached conduction temperatures, and then load and vape the herb. This doesn't make sense considering the convection is so over the moon excellent with this vape. My vapcap scratches my conduction itch very well.

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My favorite part is your illustration. In particular the happy sun heating the botanicals. You sir are an artist.FP inspired I'm sure ;)
 

vaporist4LIFE

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shit happens but once your FP arrives it won't matter much anymore :nod:
It's usps fault if anything :laughing:
They picked it up and decided to let it chill for a day before moving it , no worries I've been on a little break so I know it will destroy me when it does arrive ...which could be tomorrow :D
Very intrigued by this sic dish...never tried before only quartz so far for me !
 
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