Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

hi sm55 and fellow stoners,
I am very intrigued by the vapexhale. a few months ago I was sure that I was going to buy an SSV, but after using my friends' daily, i discovered its drawbacks and decided to do some more research on vapes. The vapexhale looks awesome. If the price is right I might be one of the first 1000 owners.

I have a few questions that I am still kind of confused about.

1) is the power supply simply a cord running off the back of this? I never see the cord in the pictures..

2) how tall is the unit, with an average hydratube on it? is it intented to be able to stand on a table with a hydratube on it without tipping over? I imagine i might keep the two disconnected while in between hits because it would be too precarious..

3) will the VXC come with a carrying case or bag of any sort? i know this is a big one for me, i want something (even something simple) to be able to carry my glass around without adding 50 bucks to the price for a third party bag. I really like how the silver surfer bag works so well with the unit.

4)-(edit)- how durable is the unit, and how much would it cost/what would need to be replaced if the glass did break? for example, If i dropped it from my desk to the wood floor (lets say I had the hydratube not connected) would the inner glass pathways? if so would I just be able to buy a new glass stem or something, or would I need to buy a whole new VXC?

thanks, and sorry about my wordiness, I tend to do that when blazed.
im looking forward to the presale!

1- Pretty sure it'll have an internal power supply. It's big enough to accommodate one.

2- You apparently haven't read the thread conmoss. It's not that long a read. Page 4 - "the VapeXhale Cloud (VXC) will be approximately 7 inches tall, slightly different dimensions than the Verdamper." Hydratubes won't all be the same size, but it's also stated that you'll be able to hold the vape in one hand during use, and that the Cloud will be stable with Hydratube installed.

3- No case. At least not initially, and I think it's safe to say there would be extra cost, if they ever do offer one. It's a simple matter to buy a case and cut foam inserts to fit. The 7th Floor products are not the norm. There are few vape models, especially home units, that come with any kind of case.

4- Again, the answer is in the thread, at least part of it- page 3-"THERE ARE SOME GLASS ELEMENTS WITHIN THE VAPORIZER ITSELF BUT IT SHOULD BE INSULATED ENOUGH TO SURVIVE THE SHOCK OF A FALL FROM A DINING TABLE". Obviously, if internal glass is broken, the unit will have to be repaired, unless the company is willing to have owners open the unit and replace parts. You'd have to contact the company about your particular situation, but I feel safe in saying you'd never have to buy a whole new unit unless yours was somehow completely destroyed-not gonna happen with a simple fall unless you're far above ground level.

damn... you got me. I have read this thread through multiple times, and have followed it from the beginning. my bad

EDIT-
On another note, I have been doing some more research on the VXC website. I found a few interesting things.

1) From the website- We provide a 1 year warranty on all VapeXhale products. It covers product issues. Not if you drop it off the third story balcony, leave it outside in the rain, or give it to your rottweiler as a chew toy.

from sm55-

stonemonkey55 said:

Sorry for the delay in response, here are the answers to your questions:

8. What kind of warranty are you looking at? Parts, heater, etc.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE SPECIFICS BUT YOU CAN EXPECT SOMEWHERE IN THE 1-3 YEAR RANGE

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and 2) from the website- Starting price of the VapeXhale Cloud will be in the $350 range and up depending which water tool you choose.

and, I remember sm55 "assuring" us that in wouldnt be more than 300 with an entry level tube. Now I cant find the quote, maybe he edited it?

I realize that these changes are completetely understandable, but Im still slightly disapointed because warranty and price were two major selling points for me. :/

still really excited!

As long as you've read it we'll forgive you for missing or forgetting a couple of things. This vape obviously can't be as durable as the PD/MZ type, but internally, I'm sure it'll be tougher to break glass than with the Extreme, for example. sm55 has used/owned a lot of different vapes, so he's had a chance to judge the strengths and weaknesses of most of what the market has to offer. We the buyers, will benefit from his experience. The Cloud will be as tough as they can make it while still offering the glass vapor path, excellent heat retention so your draw speed won't be nearly the factor it is with most vapes, and a small enough size to handle with one hand-not to mention all the great glass options.

I realize that these changes are completetely understandable, but Im still slightly disapointed because warranty and price were two major selling points for me.

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Hell, everyone wants a long warranty, but I'm sure repair prices will be reasonable, and the lack of a digital controller should make reliability a lot better. S&B dropped their warranty down to 2 yrs. when they came out with the Digit.

As for price, just make sure you're an early purchaser and you'll get the early bird discount.

yeah, if the price is right I will jump on it. Somehow I am doubtful that their early bird discount could be that substantial just based on the fact that they are already putting such a high quality product out there, and they have already spent alot of money on research to get this thing just right, and now they need to make a lot of money just to break even! again, completely understandable.

conmoss said:

yeah, if the price is right I will jump on it. Somehow I am doubtful that their early bird discount could be that substantial just based on the fact that they are already putting such a high quality product out there, and they have already spent alot of money on research to get this thing just right, and now they need to make a lot of money just to break even! again, completely understandable.

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Since the day I joined here I have been amazed at the amount of people on this site that are able to afford the amount of vapes they own, as well as some of the glass and accessories. I'm assuming most are over 35 or 40 which would make sense, but my impression is a lot aren't which makes me wonder how they are able to purchase an $1800 bong ya know? More power to those who can and I'm sure most worked their asses off for it, but my excitement for this product has been dwindling the more I have looked at the glass blower's on board work, it's all impressive as hell but sadly I am not a rich man.

For serious stoners i think it comes down to after bills and necessities are paid, what else are u gunna spend $350 on that u use more than a vape or bong? I spend $100 any night i go to the bars, and i would much rather just save this and buy a VXC. Some of you guys spend like $250-300 an oz for weed in the US and other countries, just cut back a bit each week and there ya go. Some people also save a little bit each pay check and buy themselves some new glass or a new vape every few months or so, and so many end up with large collections. Unfortuanately i don't have a huge beautiful glass collection like some people (not yet anyways), but if i keep adding vapes and accessories over time, one day my dream will come true One thing is for sure though, i've got some money saved for this puppy and its definately being added to my collection. And AgentofChaos, your interest is dwindling because you seen phenominal glass blowers on the team?? The price they are asking for their product including this great glass is very reasonable, and the price has remained stable as the list of blowers increases. Where i live they sell knock off ROORs for like $350, so for me its a no brainer really.

Where i live they sell knock off ROORs for like $350, so for me its a no brainer really.

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I agree. As high priced as vapes can get, glass prices can be ridiculous. Considering the quality you'll get with these Hydratubes, it amounts to a ridiculous bargain, IMO. There will be some pricey Hydratubes I'm sure, but I'm also sure they'll provide high quality glass with the stock kit.

AgentofChaos said:

Since the day I joined here I have been amazed at the amount of people on this site that are able to afford the amount of vapes they own, as well as some of the glass and accessories.

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Im only in college, but I am totally willing to drop 3 or 4 hundred on a quality vape. I figure if im using something all day, every day, then I want it to be quality, and fun to use.

Sorry guys I must have misinterpreted stonemonkey. I was under the assumption the unit itself with a very basic set-up would be around $300-$400, which certainly is a great price and I would gladly pay it. My only concern was the cost of some of the pictured items in this thread showing the talent of the glass blowers, which after searching online found their pieces to be well out of my pay range. If they will be offering those items around the $300-$400 then I retract my previous post.

Guys, my $.02...

An SSV is $275 on Amazon, a Volcano is ~$450-$550 (depending on the kit you get) straight off their website, and a Zephyr is $450. The VXC (by my guess) gonna end up retailing for $350-$400 once the first 1,000 units go (btw, sign me up for that pre-order discount). And this is for a vape that comes with custom glass water tools and an all glass vapor path?

Like I said: sign this kid up!

Stonebreaker6 said:

Guys, my $.02...

An SSV is $275 on Amazon, a Volcano is ~$450-$550 (depending on the kit you get) straight off their website, and a Zephyr is $450. The VXC (by my guess) gonna end up retailing for $350-$400 once the first 1,000 units go (btw, sign me up for that pre-order discount). And this is for a vape that comes with custom glass water tools and an all glass vapor path?

Like I said: sign this kid up!

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Correction: Zephyr is $360 or $305.00 with a coupon at puffitup.com

Stonebreaker6 said:

Guys, my $.02...

An SSV is $275 on Amazon, a Volcano is ~$450-$550 (depending on the kit you get) straight off their website, and a Zephyr is $450. The VXC (by my guess) gonna end up retailing for $350-$400 once the first 1,000 units go (btw, sign me up for that pre-order discount). And this is for a vape that comes with custom glass water tools and an all glass vapor path?

Like I said: sign this kid up!

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As a disclaimer, I'll probably pre-order at or less than 450, but if it's more it will have to wait until I've done some work on my motorhome (gf's actually).

Niether of the vapes you've mentioned mean anything to me yet (I plan on getting the SSV and maybe the Zephyr when the whip comes out for it). The custom glass doesn't mean anything yet. I've never used one, so other than a curiosity factor (I want to learn) it currently doesn't impress me.

What gets and holds me is how open the design/management has been publicly open with is. I like a company that is open and honest with the public, and that includes setbacks (heat shield not exactly working as an example). I also like seeing beta prototypes, production tests and design statements.

Tom

tdavie said:

Stonebreaker6 said:

Guys, my $.02...

An SSV is $275 on Amazon, a Volcano is ~$450-$550 (depending on the kit you get) straight off their website, and a Zephyr is $450. The VXC (by my guess) gonna end up retailing for $350-$400 once the first 1,000 units go (btw, sign me up for that pre-order discount). And this is for a vape that comes with custom glass water tools and an all glass vapor path?

Like I said: sign this kid up!

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As a disclaimer, I'll probably pre-order at or less than 450, but if it's more it will have to wait until I've done some work on my motorhome (gf's actually).

Niether of the vapes you've mentioned mean anything to me yet (I plan on getting the SSV and maybe the Zephyr when the whip comes out for it). The custom glass doesn't mean anything yet. I've never used one, so other than a curiosity factor (I want to learn) it currently doesn't impress me.

What gets and holds me is how open the design/management has been publicly open with is. I like a company that is open and honest with the public, and that includes setbacks (heat shield not exactly working as an example). I also like seeing beta prototypes, production tests and design statements.

Tom

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If the glass doesn't impress you get learned

Remember folks, this vape will not be for everyone, as no vape is. It will be the most unique vape on the market, imo. It's not a whip vape, bag vape, hybrid vape, log vape or portable vape. It's the only vape, or one of the very few, that has a truly 100% glass airpath and the only vape that addresses water right out of the box.

With the talent on board, this vape could easily outprice a Volcano, and probably will with some of the high end glass that will be made available. But given how much good quality glass costs, I'm amazed that this unit will be under $400 for a basic setup. That someone could get a top notch vape with glass by these guys for less than my brother spent on his big glass bong is beyond me.

The cherry on top is my confidence in the vape's performance, given it is being done by one a long-standing respected member here with a sick ass personal vape and glass collection.

I have to agree that I would be impressed (considering the superior level of performance that I am imagining the VXC having) if the unit itself has a MSRP of less than $400 without the hydra tube (let alone including a basic tube). Just look at what people pay for the DeVerdamper (despite its lack of teperature control) and the Volcano (despite it's bag-only limitations). With improved technology and means of production, prices tend to drop and quality tends to increase, but it still seems like a sweet deal.

I am sure that a select group of people really appreciate being able to take their herbs to the brink of combustion, and I wish the 'Cloud crew' the best with the adjustments they have to make to the unit in order to accommodate that group.

As Tom Petty sang "the wa-a-aiting is the hardest part", but I am confident that we are in for a treat with the release of what seems likely to be the top performing vapeorizer on the market (the VXC).

I appreciate all of the efforts of the VXC to keep us apprised of product changes, pricing, and release dates, athough they are merely predictions (and for being responsive to the feedback of potential customers). Please do keep us posted about your progress.

the only vape that addresses water right out of the box.

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Not really, but the two that come to mind- Aromed and Vapor Snake, aren't in the same ballpark, as far as water filtration goes. The waterpipe part of the Vapor Snake was what I liked least about it. For some at least, the Hyrdratube will be the best part of the Cloud.

My first post on FC, I've been lurking a bit. Nice place here. I'm, needless-to-say, very excited about the Cloud and am looking forward to the final word from our three intrepid 'Vaporneurs' that the buy button is ACTIVE!

I am currently puffing on a Magic Flight Launch Box and while I love it to death, I'm normally used to taking big hits off of glass, at least when I combust. Quite honestly, I don't like combusting as much as I used to and am really looking forward to this beautiful meld of glass/water artwork and technical sophistication.

In any case, a truly exciting time to be in the market for a new vape. All the goodness of pure glass AND the health benefits of no combustion.

Peace!

Welcome GanjaRunner. You've arrived on the vape scene at a good time. You have a great portable, which is fairly new to the market, and now you're just in time for a great vape version of the classic high quality bong. This design incorporates the best features of the many models that sm55 has gone through in the last few years.

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I have to agree that I would be impressed (considering the superior level of performance that I am imagining the VXC having) if the unit itself has a MSRP of less than $400 without the hydra tube (let alone including a basic tube). Just look at what people pay for the DeVerdamper (despite its lack of teperature control) and the Volcano (despite it's bag-only limitations). With improved technology and means of production, prices tend to drop and quality tends to increase, but it still seems like a sweet deal.

I am sure that a select group of people really appreciate being able to take their herbs to the brink of combustion, and I wish the 'Cloud crew' the best with the adjustments they have to make to the unit in order to accommodate that group.

As Tom Petty sang "the wa-a-aiting is the hardest part", but I am confident that we are in for a treat with the release of what seems likely to be the top performing vapeorizer on the market (the VXC).

I appreciate all of the efforts of the VXC to keep us apprised of product changes, pricing, and release dates, athough they are merely predictions (and for being responsive to the feedback of potential customers). Please do keep us posted about your progress.

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Well I have got and bought in the following order:
1. the aromed (350):
-all Glass (apart of siliconetubing which could be replaced with glass if you find a part that fits)
-water-filtration,
-digital temperature control
-borosilicate screen to vape oils (ordered seperately)
best taste due to all glass but no big hits guess mine was scewed up a little from the beginning 'cause a friends of mine hits better

2. Volcano(no need to describe I guess)400:
vapor from this always tastses stale (compared to the other two) . good hits compared to my aromed but the same as my friends. hits kinda get boring so I kept going up to higher temps which meant worse taste. If my aromed were like my friends I'd prefer it to the volcano(might change the bulb which is the heating element in my aromed and test it again.

3. DeVerdamper special offer I got the big DeLuxe version for 280 instead of 400:
-looks more like a shisha
-apart from the heating element (which is said to be safe I think its called nichochrome but you can look it up in the Verdamper thread if your interested in more details).
-Heat is adjustable by roughly 10C by covering the top of the heating element. I can vape from very light to very dark brown but never combusted no matter what I tried ;-)
-Best Hitter of all three
-Tastes great but not as good as the aromed especially the last hits tend to taste stale.
All in all DeVerdamper is my absolute favourite and the only one in use.

My wife uses the aromed for aroma therapie and i lent out my volcano before it just idles.


AND STILL I NEED A CLOUD REALLY BADLY :-)
What I've seen and read on FC especially in this thread and in the vriptech one (that would have been my next vape if it hadn't all these problems with heating elements dying after no time. and as i live in Germany shipping etc. could become quite a hassle.) The cloud is number one favourite for me at the moment. I mean just look at SM he's doing the human tests as far as I've seen;
and by george this man does know i little about vapes, how they hit, how durable they are, how handy ....

The only thing I really need to know from SM55, PowerNerd300 and VapeXHale (robot) (hope I got all names right --- quite overvaped ATM:
When can we sign up for one of those 1000 special offer introduction units???
And maybe something about customs if shipped to Germany. As I think to have read you will have retailers in Europe(that could become expensive I think); will I be able to sign up for one of the first units and wait till they are sold in Europe and still get the discount and goodies???

Hope this post wasn't too long and boring

@rhygin - Great to hear from some friends in Germany! The pre-order will be up very shortly, follow us on Twitter or Facebook if you want to be first in line.

If you haven't already, you can sign up here:

http://www.facebook.com/vapexhale

and/or

http://twitter.com/vapexhale

I had a chance to sneak into the glass shop and saw of few pieces that Steve from Sovereignty left behind. It's a bit blurry but yes, those are gridded trees

I feel like a kid looking at the Sears Christmas Wishbook. $450 is outside my pay scale. I can be happy though because I got Da Buddha for $169 plus $15 for a miniwhip from Vapor Bros and I am VAPOPALOOZIN'!!!!!!!!

I really want to be one of the first in line but I don't play facebook or twitter, I'm always checking this thread like 346837468346^457 times a day though.

Those gridded trees look nice, I can't wait for this to come out. Almost done with school for summer and got my stash all saved up for the whole summer, just need a vape to supplement my diet of mostly eaarl.

I really love to look at this thread every morning when in the metro to go working.
I m drooling on my cell with this pic today... with a big smle on my face... again
It already feels like I m gonna miss it when the cloud will be released... high in the sky !

Like so many I m checking this thread so many times daily ... I will be one the 1000 !

put me down for one of those gridded tree hydratubes

lol