next generation e-nails?
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nosmoking
Just so Dab HAppy!
Somebody else found it and posted this a month or so ago and I had to jump on it. I removed the hex nut as it was limiting my dab size. You can also buy just the dish.
https://www.thickassglass.com/produ...removable-silicon-carbide-dish-14-18mm-female
https://www.thickassglass.com/produ...removable-silicon-carbide-dish-14-18mm-female
Baron23
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I'm with the guys above....Auber RDK-200 or 300 (I have the 300 and don't really use the added features over the 200...well, at least not yet).
The ebay add doesn't provide enough insight into the control algorithm/type of control module used for me.
I know and trust Auber.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=45
thanks for the help guys. so this http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45&products_id=459 with the flat coil and this nail https://www.thickassglass.com/produ...removable-silicon-carbide-dish-14-18mm-female all for around the same price as my ebay find, perfect! btw what is the difference between the 200 and 300 wondering in case its worth paying a bit more
alittledabwilldoya'
Sapphire Powered Dabstronaut.
300 boasts an auto shut off feature and better aesthetics.
Plus I think the readout is blue on the 300 vs. red on the 200.
And the cord placement is opposite: 300 has both cords on the top, 200 both cords on the bottom.
But the PID is the same.
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EVlL 55
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...I kick myself daily for some of the decisions iv made concerning glass,and nails,and vapes etc...
One piece of gear that has payed off large is the rdk 300.
...I almost went way more expensive routes that wouldn't have made any differance whatsoever except for price.
That box is ridiculously cheap and the c.s. is great.
...for me,..the cord and coil in the rear are clutch for placement too.
....wouldn't it be nice if someone could put some sort of sensor in the coil that shows its life left on the box?...I would pay more for something like that,...or the hexnail looks like it's got all kinds of cool stuff goin on that might be useful to some users too....but I'd rather spend the differance on more glass.
One piece of gear that has payed off large is the rdk 300.
...I almost went way more expensive routes that wouldn't have made any differance whatsoever except for price.
That box is ridiculously cheap and the c.s. is great.
...for me,..the cord and coil in the rear are clutch for placement too.
....wouldn't it be nice if someone could put some sort of sensor in the coil that shows its life left on the box?...I would pay more for something like that,...or the hexnail looks like it's got all kinds of cool stuff goin on that might be useful to some users too....but I'd rather spend the differance on more glass.
PoopMachine
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The threads on that nail will not work with the Dnail SIC dish.
Thank you... I basically want to buy a safe nail that I can switch the dishes on (SiC and titanium) .. is that possible?
That SiC dish from TAG - can you switch dishes? I didn't see a titanium dish on the site.. any help is greatly appreciated
damm
Well-Known Member
D-Nail has several different options with the Halo; a Quartz Dish; SiC dish or the Titanium dish (dunno why you'd want it ..) when you buy the slim series nail the dishes are interchangeable. Lug nut secures the dish to the slim nail and tightens around a flat coil
Then you have a pretty good choice of bases to attach to your glass how you need it.
Is titanium basically worthless now? Something about SiC scares me (mainly cause I don't know what if is).
I appreciate the dnail suggestion ... anything cheaper perhaps? How do you feel about the TAG SiC one? ( I think interchangeable dishes).
I just wanna heat it up really high and rip like two in a row... I figured titanium would be good for that... or is SiC also appropriate?
Sorry last wuestions I promise - thanks though
seaofgreens
My Mind Is Free
Those that have tried the TAG SiC haven't liked it very much. The dish is small and deep while the retaining nut is oversized and makes it difficult to place dabs into the dish without hitting the nut or the deep side walls.
It is a lot cheaper though.... So I think you get what you pay for, which seems to be a SiC dish that will not perform as well as or have an appropriate form factor for decent sized dabs.
Here is some basic info about what Silicone carbide actually is: http://www.d-nail.com/info/science/silicon-carbide-sic/
Titanium will be fine for the situation you are describing. Torch or e-nail?
It is a lot cheaper though.... So I think you get what you pay for, which seems to be a SiC dish that will not perform as well as or have an appropriate form factor for decent sized dabs.
Here is some basic info about what Silicone carbide actually is: http://www.d-nail.com/info/science/silicon-carbide-sic/
Titanium will be fine for the situation you are describing. Torch or e-nail?
damm
Well-Known Member
I paid for the D-Nail Halo's because I found they are worth the money. Many people have talked about the TAG SiC and the biggest downer about it is the nut. Yeah it's a different surface than you normally are dealing with; but it transfers heat beautifully. Performance is just stellar to me.
Regarding Titanium; I don't like seasoning my nails. That's pretty much it for me; there's the flavor thing. Quartz and other mediums can add their own flavor (the hotter the more you can taste it) ... SiC is neutral on flavor so you don't get that; and the D-Nail can take a lot of heat (3000F) shock is the only issue (dropping water on it when it's > 700 )
I have no experience in Sapphire so there is nothing said about it.
PoopMachine
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No one is going to agree with me but in the long run, this is your best option.
For fit and versatility, buy a Highly Educated Infiniti. Thats the nail the Auber is knocked off of. The threads on the center post are different.
Buy a SIC Halo to put on top of it. You'll probably never use the Ti dishes of the Infiniri but theyre nice to have.
The reason I suggest this is because Dnails bases SUCK. I have yet to find a drop down they will fit on. Ive bought like 4 already. The HE nail just fits and working in anything thats not 10mm. If you guy this combination, you will never need anything else.
herbivore21
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I own several d-nail slim series bases and they connect perfectly with all of my dropdowns and gongs, from factory made ones to hand worked dropdowns that are worth far more than I'd care to admit. Is there a particular base piece you are having trouble with?
I hate the long threaded centre path of the infiniti (which I also own), which gunks up with more reclaim than any nail that I own. I strongly advise all against the Infiniti and in my experience with multiple slim series bases, have never had problems with them fitting my gongs
1) would you know if the dnail dishes (SiC for example) work with the Infiniti nail from TAG? Not the HE one
https://www.thickassglass.com/produ...nail-14-18mm-male-female-e-nail-for-flat-coil
2)also would dnail dishes fit this nail (TAG two price domeless). The dabbing area on this one looks sketchy too I'm not exactly sure where you place the dab.
https://www.thickassglass.com/products/tag-2-piece-domeless-titanium-nail-set-for-enails-flat-coil
I really appreciate all the help - I'm reading more and notice people don't mind the SiC TAG dish if you remove the big nut at the top
https://www.thickassglass.com/produ...nail-14-18mm-male-female-e-nail-for-flat-coil
2)also would dnail dishes fit this nail (TAG two price domeless). The dabbing area on this one looks sketchy too I'm not exactly sure where you place the dab.
https://www.thickassglass.com/products/tag-2-piece-domeless-titanium-nail-set-for-enails-flat-coil
I really appreciate all the help - I'm reading more and notice people don't mind the SiC TAG dish if you remove the big nut at the top
seaofgreens
My Mind Is Free
First one might work depending on diameter of threaded rod and if you can find a threaded washer to hold the flat coil and halo dish more effectively. Hard to say though, maybe just works with provided stuff, it does say flat coil. Just looks weird.
Second one looks pretty similar to slim imo. If you use the staymelty coupon code on dnail site the slim base is just $10 more though. Just saying.
Sounds like you will be happy with either of your TAG options for now though, with a TAG SiC if you like... And if you decide to buy a halo in the future and need a new base for it, the main cost (halo) has already been passed and your TAG experience will let you know if you are set or want an upgrade.
Good luck and let us know what you decide and especially how you like the TAG SiC if you choose to get it instead of a halo.
@herbivore21
Just wondering. I thought D-Nail has a patent on direct coil to SiC dish contact? That was why the liger circumvented this with a non direct contact insert... So why is TAG able to offer a direct contact dish?
Second one looks pretty similar to slim imo. If you use the staymelty coupon code on dnail site the slim base is just $10 more though. Just saying.
Sounds like you will be happy with either of your TAG options for now though, with a TAG SiC if you like... And if you decide to buy a halo in the future and need a new base for it, the main cost (halo) has already been passed and your TAG experience will let you know if you are set or want an upgrade.
Good luck and let us know what you decide and especially how you like the TAG SiC if you choose to get it instead of a halo.
@herbivore21
Just wondering. I thought D-Nail has a patent on direct coil to SiC dish contact? That was why the liger circumvented this with a non direct contact insert... So why is TAG able to offer a direct contact dish?
PoopMachine
Well-Known Member
I own several d-nail slim series bases and they connect perfectly with all of my dropdowns and gongs, from factory made ones to hand worked dropdowns that are worth far more than I'd care to admit. Is there a particular base piece you are having trouble with?
I hate the long threaded centre path of the infiniti (which I also own), which gunks up with more reclaim than any nail that I own. I strongly advise all against the Infiniti and in my experience with multiple slim series bases, have never had problems with them fitting my gongs
I have bought multiple 14 and 18 male dropdowns and that base doesnt fit any of them. The taper on it is wrong. It will barely go over the tip of the joint, much less sit down on it.
The path on the Dnail bases arent that much shorter than the Infiniti. Ive never had an issue with any Infiniti Ive ever owned getting gunked up in the center tube. I have had the Liger get gunked up once or twice.
Maybe they make dropdown differently in Europe or wherever you live. Ive been to every shop in town and taken a new, unused base with me and Ive yet to find anything that it will fit, including dropdowns made by local artists.
@PoopMachine
Do you know if dnail dishes would fit this TAG nail? I trust your knowledge lol
https://www.thickassglass.com/products/tag-2-piece-domeless-titanium-nail-set-for-enails-flat-coil
Do you know if dnail dishes would fit this TAG nail? I trust your knowledge lol
https://www.thickassglass.com/products/tag-2-piece-domeless-titanium-nail-set-for-enails-flat-coil
seaofgreens
My Mind Is Free
@PoopMachine
Live in the US, have two dropdowns, one m2m from Texas, one f2f from China. My slim base adapters fit in both no problem. Maybe your adapter is mis-machined possibly? I do like the 14m adapter for the slim better though, but the female works fine.
Live in the US, have two dropdowns, one m2m from Texas, one f2f from China. My slim base adapters fit in both no problem. Maybe your adapter is mis-machined possibly? I do like the 14m adapter for the slim better though, but the female works fine.
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PoopMachine
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Ive bought 14mm male and 18mm male dropdowns and those nail bases dont fit. They do fit on the piece itself but they dont fit on any dropdown Ive been able to find. The glassblower said its because the taper on the glass joint is 19mm and not 18.8 but you can take that with a grain of salt. I solved the problem by buying a used Infiniti off of Ebay for cheaper than I could have bought another wasted dropdown.
Interesting enough, they dont fit 14mm or 18mm mail dropdowns so there is some kind of size discrepancy. But you can clearly see the differences in the joints if you put them side by side.
I doubt it and I probably wouldnt risk it. Ask them what the thread size is and it should be easy enough to figure it out.
EVlL 55
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...i also...and I emphasize " i " also think the female slim bases of the d-nail are total shit.
I actually think it's a hazard and won't use it...iv had the shit pop off...
Iv tried many,many dropdowns...%85-90% don't seat.
If I use a d-nail set it is on NewVape bodies and rods...i like the way the rod pushes the residue down past my joints...never gets stuck.
....some say the d-nail bases are great,..and they get very little to no reclaim up in there,....
...my findings have been very differant...it's up to 7 small parts including the coil with no diversion for reclaim.
....like I said these are my experiences,...it's pretty obvious results vary.....also,..iv tried this w/ 2 different female bases....same
I actually think it's a hazard and won't use it...iv had the shit pop off...
Iv tried many,many dropdowns...%85-90% don't seat.
If I use a d-nail set it is on NewVape bodies and rods...i like the way the rod pushes the residue down past my joints...never gets stuck.
....some say the d-nail bases are great,..and they get very little to no reclaim up in there,....
...my findings have been very differant...it's up to 7 small parts including the coil with no diversion for reclaim.
....like I said these are my experiences,...it's pretty obvious results vary.....also,..iv tried this w/ 2 different female bases....same
PoopMachine
Well-Known Member
Popping off is my main concern. They just dont sit down on the joint and I cant have a hot nail landing on my carpet halfway through a session.