Dynavap VapCap

So in order to recognize other members of our tribe I just have to look for black fingers or is that only the cheap so and so like me who is using a Bic? Seriously, does better butane and lighter help?

@TeeJay1952, I used a bic lighter when I took my vapcap with me on vacation. It worked, but a torch is definitely preferable. Worth the couple bucks for a cheap lighter and a can of butane. With the bic I was finding it took forever to click and I needed to heat for several seconds after the click to get good vapor. That, and the black soot from the bic got everywhere! Definitely a better experience using a torch.

Just my

needalift said:

Do you like this torch ? This was my first torch and I had to fill it either everyday or sometimes if I was lucky , every other day . I was afraid to leave with it on me without a backup . Maybe I just got a dud , but I wasn't very impressed and it turned me off of Zico for sure . I hope you are getting better results


I'm using a triple torch right now with the ccd in the second position . I use the suck like a straw method to load ( not a tight pack ) . I also continually spin just above the actual flame in the light ghost flame and it only takes 10-12 seconds for the first click . 5-7 seconds for additional clicks if I don't let it cool too long .

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Yes that's my number one lighter when I'm out around where noise needs to be@ a minimum. It last for a day and half for me but I was a heavy vaper then. I still use it, just not at the moment. Other than that if noise isn't an issue I have the triple flame, it just takes a few more seconds to heat up, I like the faster heat up time of the quad though. Just my

MinnBobber said:

OK, is there such a thing as a faulty clicker?
Are there supposed to be 2 clicks for heating and 2 for cooling?

Mine absolutely/positively only has one click each direction and the heating click is like 1/5 the volume of the cooling click and the heating click has almost no vibration.
- I get the one faint heating click after about 4 seconds of triple torch. I continue for another 3 or 4 seconds and no second click.
- when cooling I have the unit up to my ear and get a little scratch noise/almost imperceptible, followed a second later by a nice volume pop AND and nice big vibration.

With the one cooling click I see/hear/feel what it should be like but the heating click ain't even in the same ballpark for noise and vibration. I need a seismograph to feel the single heating click.

Frustrated so far...

Could someone please verify there should be 2 clicks each direction??
And should the heating click(s) be as big as the cooling clicks?

Thanks

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Read the top comment and the replies: https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/...o_the_vapcap_caps_work_how_do_they_make_that/

MoistLumps said:

Read the top comment and the replies: https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/...o_the_vapcap_caps_work_how_do_they_make_that/

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Yea I try to help the riff raff over on vaporents as well

I admit they can be a rather unruly bunch sometimes though

There are some nice people over there, but unlike you fine folks on FC (particularly this thread) not everyone is so good at keeping positive vibes

My Omni has arrived and it really improves the experience of using the vapcap out of my water pieces. While I've only had one session with the piece it is already evident that I will be heating more towards the middle of the cap for better taste and more heat cycles. I'll have more to say once I get back and spend some more time with it. For now I'm more than impressed with the ability to vary the choke on the carb, it's a game changer for me. I have it nearly at full choke and it's so smooth.

I wasn't able to sell this piece due to a large crack that formed right down the carb hole, so I'm using it as a test mule.

14mm Blackwood Slim VonG Body

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PS: I just did a SS CCD swap since I put a 3 pack of them on my order and they're very easy for me to install. I ended up using a sewing needle and I was able to push it via the center hole, there by evening out the force and getting the CCD in the exact groove I wanted.

Now that I can compare the Ti CCD and SS CCD I noticed that the Ti is quite a bit thicker than the stainless steel. When I hold them between my thumb and finger to test how springy the materials are, the stainless flexes and returns to its original position. The Ti on the other hand takes a set and stays bent, almost no spring to it at all. This leads me to think that Ti isn't the best material to be making the CCD out of as it needs to have some spring to it in order to make easy installation possible.

TeeJay1952 said:

So in order to recognize other members of our tribe I just have to look for black fingers or is that only the cheap so and so like me who is using a Bic? Seriously, does better butane and lighter help?

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Yes, a torch lighter really improves usage so much!!! Heating is faster, heat is spread much uniformly and you don't get soot on your fingers.

I already tested Bic lighters with a VC, and to me this is the ideal backup. I do not see a Bic as a primary heating option. The same applies to campfire. Works, but is not so good as a real nice triple torch..... Try it and you'll see

Cheers

MinnBobber said:

Could someone please verify there should be 2 clicks each direction??
And should the heating click(s) be as big as the cooling clicks?

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The cap contains two disks. When the cap is heated the disks buckle, creating a clicking sound. The second disk is a built in redundancy. A fail safe. If one fails the other comes through.

So, once you hear a heating click you can stop heating and toke. Same with the cool down click.

Shake the cap up at your ear and see if you can hear them gingle about. You may only be able to hear them with a heated vap. Anyway, I wonder if you shake the cap a bit maybe the disks will reposition themselves and perhaps the sound will improve?

Another thought is that it is possible that you have a defective cap....

MinnBobber said:

I need a seismograph to feel the single heating click.

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I have a few custom stems that are thin and long. I have noticed that the click vibration is much stronger using the them.

Here is one along with my Ti Woody S with Blackwood body and burl mp for comparison.

I've noticed that my click is quiet if there's anything touching the disks. So that might be a possible reason why you're not hearing your click very well.

Winegums said:

I've noticed that my click is quiet if there's anything touching the disks. So that might be a possible reason why you're not hearing your click very well.

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I was thinking that. A too full bowl might interfere with the click. Experimentation is required...

Another excellent shot, @TheVaporist If I need any important pics taken you may get a call...

Winegums said:

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That is a BEAUTY!!!

TheVaporist said:

While the VapCap continue to conquer the heart of his new members , would you take a cup of weekly propaganda?

(35mm - F5.6 - 1/400s - iso 100 and not enough clouds)


"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new lands but seeing with new eyes "​

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So great, the marriage of different materials is perfect. It reminds me of a luxury sport sedan I mean seriously, look how much other vaporizers cost, none of them have form and function like this. This vape is a heady piece you wouldn't be embarrassed to show your friends.

Thanks for all the suggestions,
I'll keep experimenting with an empty chamber as combustion sucked. Chamber was empty when getting single, faint one click so that wasn't the issue. I will gently shake a little to see if that re-positions clickers where they work as designed.

The good news with the combustion, I've had to disassemble several times and found a mini-cleaning didn't get rid of the nasty combusting smell as just sucking on empty M gave a bad taste. After a complete cleaning soak, it seems like that smell is gone. So, I've gotten familiar with it quickly

Getting closer to the goal

MinnBobber said:

I get the one faint heating click after about 4 seconds of triple torch. I continue for another 3 or 4 seconds and no second click.

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Hi Bob - you were doing pretty up until the "I continue...." part. Hear a click, stop NOW.

I personally count also. Often on the first heat cycle I will get only a very faint heat up click. Second heat cycle I get a better click. So, I personally stop at 3 seconds, click or not. I can always reheat but combustion sucks, yeah?

So, easy does it, be conservative with your heating, and you will discover the idiosyncrasies of your VC and become one with it. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. LOL

RESPECT THE CLICK

Baron23 said:

Hi Bob - you were doing pretty up until the "I continue...." part. Hear a click, stop NOW.

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I only continued beyond a first click because I was experimenting with no load and wanted to see if mine ever does 2 clicks. Forgot to mention that. Cannot ever get a second click and sometimes no first click.
With a precious load I would have stopped immediately at one click

I don't dare try another precious load yet, until I get things better dialed in. Will keep working at it. The clicks just seem so damn inconsistent and I swear, sometimes non-existent.

@cybrguy - I know I aint George, but I've been pawing through my extras of each CCD type & the framework / pattern is the same to my eye; the only difference I detect is that the SS feels flat & slightly thinner, where the Ti feels slightly dished & a hair thicker. A sensible distinction if the Ti screens are meant to be removed, reinserted, repositioned - and if the SS screens are meant to be placed and left alone.

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Did I mention NEW TORCH IN TOWN???

So what I have in hand is a Vertigo Lotus II; the pic on the Dynavap accessories page is identical in every way. This thing is SERIOUS: I toasted (dark but definitely still brown, unburned, rich flavor) a 0.045g bowl (M, full, loosely-packed) in two heat cycles; each heat took 10-15 sec, w/ five or more good pulls from each before the cool-down click.

If this is the heating unit George has been using as his standard during development, a lot of things come into focus....

Things noticed:
there's only one click at-temp now - probably the whole tip is heating so rapidly that there's only 'time' for one;
the clicks seem to be coming from the BASE of the tip - not from the cap (not that it matters?);

On my next Dynavap order, I'm adding a couple more of these things: if you're giving Ms to your friends, give one of these, too - they'll be even happier!

Squiby said:

Bic - held above the flame about 2mm a from bottom of cap. 15 seconds
Single jet - up and down motion to cover bottom half of cap. 9 seconds
Double jet - 8 seconds
Triple jet - 5 seconds
Quad jet - 3-4 seconds

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Thanks for that.

Does a FC or 420 coupon code exist? I'm goping to go ahead and order an M at the very least.

Got my M in the mail today =). Have it soking in Iso right now and I'm cleaning my TI tip screen and condenser too lol. Anyways how the hell do you guys get the Orings off the tip? I had to just leave them on there because I couldn't get them off. Ill order some more soon.

First takes on the M without use. The m cap is a much looser fit than my Ti Woody. It doesn't slide off but when using the magnet it comes off like butter. I can't wait to use it. I will report back. I plan on using it with my TI tip unless for some reason I like the SS more?

ClearBlueLou said:

Things noticed:
there's only one click at-temp now - probably the whole tip is heating so rapidly that there's only 'time' for one;
the clicks seem to be coming from the BASE of the tip - not from the cap (not that it matters?);

On my next Dynavap order, I'm adding a couple more of these things: if you're giving Ms to your friends, give one of these, too - they'll be even happier!

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I noticed that with my triple jet, after using a single jet for many months I got used to the staggered double click. My triple jet only gives me one click.

If the bowl being too full is the issue then maybe the cap should be slid up a tiny bit off of the top of the bowl . This should help avoid any char on the tip of the load too
Edited . Autocorrect made me sound entirely too vaped again . Should make more sense now .

needalift said:

Autocorrect made me sound entirely too vaped again .

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Yet, I meant EXACTLY what you knew...

^^^
Great minds think alike I guess . Or vaped people just really get each other ...

TheVaporist said:

While the VapCap continue to conquer the heart of his new members , would you take a cup of weekly propaganda?

(35mm - F5.6 - 1/400s - iso 100 and not enough clouds)


"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new lands but seeing with new eyes "​

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You take the highest quality photos of vapcaps I've ever seen. Do you have more pics with carbon body/stems? I'm deciding whether to get carbon instead of blackwood, also with a used cap to see how it'd really look.